View Full Version : We're "demonizing" the rich =) Poor Bastards.
RichardAWilson
5th October 2011, 23:21
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/rich-people-demonized-for-flaunting-their-wealth-are-under-attack/2011/09/28/gIQAcJn4AL_story.html
Read this...
Bud Struggle
5th October 2011, 23:33
Now it's by Barbara Ehrenreich a standard Progressive shill--but yes--the article makes sense. The super rich have to be taken down a peg. The regular (poor) rich are still just adorable as ever.
CommieTroll
5th October 2011, 23:34
Music to my ears, at least now the bastards will admit everyone despises them
RichardAWilson
5th October 2011, 23:36
When I attack the rich, I'm not talking of households making $250,000 a year. I'm talking about a handful of Americans - around 50,000 - that have amassed fortunes via trading. Most of them, Warren Buffet included, were born into wealth. After all, it takes money to make money.
Buffet understands this, which is the reason he's calling for fair taxation.
ВАЛТЕР
5th October 2011, 23:39
Fuck them.
I saw a sign somewhere it read. "Eat the rich, feed the poor.":)
eyeheartlenin
6th October 2011, 01:01
Great article! Thanks to RAW for the link. Every time I walk from where I live to downtown, I see a sign beside the road, that says "Condo Auction -- opening bid $175K," and this is in a very ordinary town in a small state, so Ehrenreich is on to something. I believe I read that she was once a member of the Socialist Party (she certainly writes like she used to be a socialist). Too bad the article doesn't explain the simple socialist solution to insure social equality: expropriate the expropriators, but I guess the Post would not have published that. Anyway, cde Ehrenreich has given us a bunch of great examples of why we need a plebeian uprising in this country, and soon!
RichardAWilson
6th October 2011, 03:43
I love her. You're right, she was a member of the Socialist Party. She's still a socialist - it's just that she has left her illusions in the Democrats grab hold of the better of her.
Unfortunately, for her and us, the Democrats aren't going to do a damn thing to change class relations and socioeconomic inequalities here in the United States. (Unless, of course, things get so bad and a strong left forces the Democrats to do something)
Even then, the level of wealth and corruption in the Democratic Party has grown to such proportions - that they can't even relate to the needs of the working masses.
Make no mistake, we're facing a situation similar to Britain before the Second World War.
We have Conservatives and Liberals and the so-called Liberals are suffering from impotence.
Like the British, we too (the socialists, unionists, workers, activists, etc.) will have to build our own Party from the ground.
Skooma Addict
6th October 2011, 05:48
I really don't care what the rich buy. At all. I judge people solely on an individual basis. The only difference is I will be more lenient about what is acceptable behavior if the person is poor. 99 times out of 100 a janitor has a right to complain about his life more than an I banker. Or if a waitress/waiter is being *****y I do not mind as much as I would if it were a CEO.
And you guys, who cares if they buy expensive clothes? They ulta high end clothes looks so stupid anyways. I recently saw some kind of raccoon fur shirt/scarf that was 2000 dollars, and it looked just like a dead disconfigured raccoon you see lying in the road.
Ocean Seal
6th October 2011, 06:14
Wahh wahh wahhh, I can't drink my 500 dollar champagne bottle without having to think about all the people that hate me for exploiting them. The rich can cry me a river.
kapitalyst
6th October 2011, 06:55
When I attack the rich, I'm not talking of households making $250,000 a year. I'm talking about a handful of Americans - around 50,000 - that have amassed fortunes via trading. Most of them, Warren Buffet included, were born into wealth. After all, it takes money to make money.
Buffet understands this, which is the reason he's calling for fair taxation.
You'd be surprised how little it takes to get started and multiply your money. And if you're willing to accept greater risk, say options, you can make even more with even less. It's a 95% psychological battle, 5% actually doing things.
Anyway... I'm dismayed by the outright hatred of the rich. It's one thing if you believe in socialism and egalitarianism, and you want to do this and that for the sake of those principles. But hatred is not a healthy thing. You know there was a particular group of people who, by the 1930s, had become rather successful within European society. Many were bankers, lawyers, doctors, scientists, investors, etc... The same charges were leveled against them, and no one felt any sympathy for them. "They're rich -- fuck them!" people said... "We have no sympathy for these rich people while we work in factories". A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... :rolleyes:
Tablo
6th October 2011, 06:57
You'd be surprised how little it takes to get started and multiply your money. And if you're willing to accept greater risk, say options, you can make even more with even less. It's a 95% psychological battle, 5% actually doing things.
Anyway... I'm dismayed by the outright hatred of the rich. It's one thing if you believe in socialism and egalitarianism, and you want to do this and that for the sake of those principles. But hatred is not a healthy thing. You know there was a particular group of people who, by the 1930s, had become rather successful within European society. Many were bankers, lawyers, doctors, scientists, investors, etc... The same charges were leveled against them, and no one felt any sympathy for them. "They're rich -- fuck them!" people said... "We have no sympathy for these rich people while we work in factories". A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... :rolleyes:
Hatred is not so much against the rich as the bourgeoisie as they are the exploiters. It just so happens the bourgeoisie make up the vast majority of wealthy people.
Dunk
6th October 2011, 07:21
I'm dismayed by the outright hatred of the rich.
Boo fucking hoo
Hopefully it's just the beginning of payback for generations of the ridicule of the working class in pop culture
RGacky3
6th October 2011, 07:41
You'd be surprised how little it takes to get started and multiply your money. And if you're willing to accept greater risk, say options, you can make even more with even less. It's a 95% psychological battle, 5% actually doing things.
Yeah, everyone in America can juts start being day traders ...
You know there was a particular group of people who, by the 1930s, had become rather successful within European society. Many were bankers, lawyers, doctors, scientists, investors, etc... The same charges were leveled against them, and no one felt any sympathy for them. "They're rich -- fuck them!" people said... "We have no sympathy for these rich people while we work in factories". A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... http://www.revleft.com/vb/were-demonizing-rich-t162183/revleft/smilies/001_rolleyes.gif
Thats not what anti-semitism was about, it was as much of them being bolsheviks as it was them being bankers.
RichardAWilson
6th October 2011, 16:31
Have we forgotten that Hitler massacred Communists, Socialists, "Witches" and Atheists?
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Irregardless, I don't "hate the rich." I'd just like to see the economy turned over to the working masses.
I don't see a need for $41,000 handbags and $248,000 playpens until every middle class working family can afford a home.
Thirsty Crow
6th October 2011, 16:40
I really don't care what the rich buy. At all. I judge people solely on an individual basis. The only difference is I will be more lenient about what is acceptable behavior if the person is poor. 99 times out of 100 a janitor has a right to complain about his life more than an I banker. Or if a waitress/waiter is being *****y I do not mind as much as I would if it were a CEO.
And you guys, who cares if they buy expensive clothes? They ulta high end clothes looks so stupid anyways. I recently saw some kind of raccoon fur shirt/scarf that was 2000 dollars, and it looked just like a dead disconfigured raccoon you see lying in the road.
Absolutely. I can't see the point in all of the moralizing which ends up in petty personal attacks against individual people who are currently running the show. It's the fact that the existing social relations are structured as to necessiatate such people to perform the function that they do. So that should change, by the conscious action of the people who are dominated and exploited (and who shouldn't care what do their bossess wear, and neither think about their personalities which are irrelevant).
But yeah, it's kinda hard to stomach the disgusting ridicule faced by working people at the hands of the media mouthpieces of the capitalist and managerial classes (as dunk correctly notices), so in fact a heated, emotional response in the form of outright hate is to be expected.
A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... :rolleyes:
Study your history before you spout such hypocritical nonsense. The chain of events leading to the establishment of the nazi state cannot be termed as a "revolution" in any way. That's quite a venomous false analogy coming from a person who would have it that nobody hates anybody.
The Teacher
6th October 2011, 16:42
No one understands the rich. They got where they are because they are smart.
Smart enough to get yanked out of the right vagina.
Smart enough to get into Ivy League schools with straight C grades
Smart enough to get million dollar personal loans to start businesses
Smart enough to hire other people to actually run those businesses
Smart enough to buy elections and create a government that does nothing but subsidize their failures
RichardAWilson
6th October 2011, 16:45
Smart enough to get yanked out of the right vagina.
Vulva! :)
The Teacher
6th October 2011, 16:46
My bad. I'm not a biology guy. It all looks the same down there :laugh:
Revolution starts with U
6th October 2011, 18:25
Of course you're dismayed by the hatred of the ruling class... because you're a shill for the ruling class! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
If I could express sarcasm accurately in type I would say I am surprised...
RGacky3
6th October 2011, 21:55
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Whats funny is Glen Beck always uses this poem, and says "first they came for the bankers," but he's never quoted the whole thing.
Ocean Seal
7th October 2011, 13:21
The same charges were leveled against them, and no one felt any sympathy for them. "They're rich -- fuck them!" people said... "We have no sympathy for these rich people while we work in factories". A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... :rolleyes:
Except it wasn't that simple. They were targeted by virtue of their ethnicity/religion, and a revolution didn't take place my friend. A few capitalists decided to take control of everything and that's what they did. While we communists repeatedly agitated against it, and fought against it on the streets, unlike the bourgeois parties who were more than willing to give Hitler a piece of the countries control. Or did we forget that already. We fight against the ruling class, by virtue of them being the ruling class, by virtue of our oppression being caused by them, by virtue of what we can accomplish without them.
CommunityBeliever
7th October 2011, 13:28
Anyway... I'm dismayed by the outright hatred of the rich. It's one thing if you believe in socialism and egalitarianism, and you want to do this and that for the sake of those principles. But hatred is not a healthy thing. You know there was a particular group of people who, by the 1930s, had become rather successful within European society. Many were bankers, lawyers, doctors, scientists, investors, etc... The same charges were leveled against them, and no one felt any sympathy for them. "They're rich -- fuck them!" people said... "We have no sympathy for these rich people while we work in factories". A revolution took place, and some six million of those people were killed whether they were actually rich or not -- they had all become enemies to their aggressors... all part of some non-existent conspiracy... :rolleyes: The Nazis never started a revolution and they were actively supported by various sections of the bourgeoisie.
Iron Felix
7th October 2011, 14:31
The Capitalists handed Germany over to Hitler, if you don't recall. Then Austria. Czechoslovakia.
There was no revolution. Hitler was given power exactly because the ruling classes wanted to avoid one. His radical extremism was supposed to combat revolutionary extremism, which is exactly why German occupation was hardly resisted in the advanced Western countries. The Bankers and Industrialists welcomed Nazi occupation as it meant extermination of revolutionaries. Most of the resistance in the west came from the Socialists, Communists and Foreigners from the East.
And haterd is a healthy thing, without it we have no motivation to continue our struggle. We see injustice in the world and you ask us not to hate the perpetrators? When a new world is forged, hatred will become useless, but now it is neccesary. I hate the enemies of mankind and I will continue to hate them as long as they maintain their power. When the vermin is not relevant anymore, then I will cease my hatred for them.
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