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ВАЛТЕР
5th October 2011, 21:17
Just got done watching this film, and even though Michael Moore is a revisionist I think his film did a great job exposing the realities of capitalism. If he had advocated far more direct means of seizing the means of production it would have made that movie complete. I felt terrible watching those people have their homes foreclosed. However, I especially enjoyed the part of the movie where they showed the Co-op run businesses and how effective they can be.

Any of you have any opinions on this movie? I personally see it as great, except for the revisionist bullshit.

Susurrus
5th October 2011, 21:23
He's not a revisionist, he's a liberal. To call him a revisionist would be to say that he agrees with marx, which he doesn't.

But yeah, other than him being a liberal, great movie.

TheGodlessUtopian
5th October 2011, 21:24
I think it was a decent film as far as social-democratic things go.I think he really could have gotten deeper into the poverty and realities of capitalism but I still think it is a fair starting point for non-politicized people to begin at (as as long as they continue their education and move on to revolutionary programs).

ВАЛТЕР
5th October 2011, 21:30
I think it was a decent film as far as social-democratic things go.I think he really could have gotten deeper into the poverty and realities of capitalism but I still think it is a fair starting point for non-politicized people to begin at (as as long as they continue their education and move on to revolutionary programs).

Agreed, delving deeper into the poverty would invoke a more emotional response from a viewer. Even though I know how bad it is, the few parts of watching people get their homes foreclosed made me angry as hell.
Like most people, I know it's happening, but I still get pretty enraged about it when it is brought up and I can actually see it happening.

OHumanista
5th October 2011, 21:37
I think it was a decent film as far as social-democratic things go.I think he really could have gotten deeper into the poverty and realities of capitalism but I still think it is a fair starting point for non-politicized people to begin at (as as long as they continue their education and move on to revolutionary programs).

That, it is not ideal and also has some of Moore's religious views but it is very good for an "overview" on the situation. With the plus of being very easy for non-politicized people to understand as you said.

CommieTroll
5th October 2011, 21:39
I really enjoyed the film but one thing that distracted me while watching it is that I couldn't help but think that Moore probably didn't genuinely sympathize with those people. He benefits from Capitalism and lives a pretty comfortable life, typical Liberal I guess but other than that it's a pretty good film and is really worth a watch

Commissar Rykov
5th October 2011, 23:41
I really enjoyed the film but one thing that distracted me while watching it is that I couldn't help but think that Moore probably didn't genuinely sympathize with those people. He benefits from Capitalism and lives a pretty comfortable life, typical Liberal I guess but other than that it's a pretty good film and is really worth a watch
I would kind of agree with this I have always felt that Moore enjoys the terror and chaos that capitalism causes because it allows him to film documentaries to rail against the system but I don't honestly think he has real intentions on helping people. I think he will always just offer token support but would rather sit on his hands so he can get another scoop of human suffering to fill his next project.

Tablo
5th October 2011, 23:55
I share the same opinion of others here. The film was pretty good, but suffered from Moore's liberalism.

khlib
6th October 2011, 05:45
I also just watched this movie. I live in Detroit, so I thought his local histories of Detroit and Flint were fascinating, but Michael Moore is basically a socialist-for-pay.

Does anyone know of any other similar documentaries?

The Idler
6th October 2011, 22:55
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ВАЛТЕР
6th October 2011, 23:02
Yeah, I watched that RSA video I liked it.

The other video I'll watch when I get a chance. Seems interesting.

Bardo
6th October 2011, 23:03
I also just watched this movie. I live in Detroit, so I thought his local histories of Detroit and Flint were fascinating


Yep, I grew up in Genessee county and much like Roger and Me, the bits about Flint hit pretty close to home.