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Mythbuster
5th October 2011, 03:04
This is from an atheist form that i am on and thought I would get your feedback as well.


Judaism is another special case for Dominionist Christians and their goal of seizing the Religion Mountain. They are, out of necessity, vehemently Zionist because the end-time scenario they believe is happening now (or is imminent) requires the massive relocation of Diaspora Jews to Israel. An Israel defined by its biblical borders. Its this insistence on biblical borders that stands behind the Dominionists vigorous opposition to a 2-state solution in Palestine and their deep entwinement with the most extreme Likudniks. On top of all that, a new addition to the end-time narrative is sweeping the church: a conviction that a critical mass of Jews must convert, must become so-called messianic Jews in Israel, to trigger Jesus return. This latest addendum to Dominionist eschatology is fueling an explosion of proselytizing efforts directed toward Jews, an effort they call "one new man", eliminating any distinction between Christian and Jew. In the words of anointed apostle, Chuck Pierce:

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Originally Posted by Glory of Zion, International
There will be no dividing line between Jew and Gentile. When the Jews rejected their obedient, suffering Messiah, Yeshua, the door opened for the Gentile world to receive grace by faith and enter salvation. The Gentiles love for Father through His Son will cause all of Israel to become jealous and turn back to their Messiah.
So how do the Dominionist Christians plan to accomplish all this? With lots and lots of money, with subterfuge, deceit, and disingenuousness. What else? To achieve their goals, the Dominionists must take on three issues: expand Israels borders, herd Diaspora Jewry into Israel, and convert them to Christianity. Ill examine each of the three, in turn.

First: expand Israels borders. On this issue, the Dominionists demonstrate the influence of the Likudniks with which they are partnered. Theyre very specifically interested in the West Bank (they prefer the Hebrew term Shomron) and to a lesser extent Gaza. In 2007 the Annapolis Accords froze expansion of settlements in the West Bank; the Dominionist Christian/Likudnik alliance stepped into the gap and are pouring money and bodies into these disputed settlements. They provide paramilitary security and equipment to guard the settlements, and support the so-called Price Tag policy in which settlers attack an Arab mosque, olive grove, or vineyard in retaliation whenever Israeli forces intervene to halt expansion of the settlement. In 2010, one of the largest Christian Zionist organizations, IFCJ (International Fellowship of Christians and Jews) alone gave nearly 80 million dollars to Zionist efforts of the 100 million they collected. Thats only one organization out of thousands and in just ONE year!

Another major player in Christian Zionism is CUFI (Christians United For Israel), founded in 2007 and led by Pastor John Hagee of Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. Since its founding, CUFI has donated more than 50 million dollars to settlement interests in Israel. Hagee, CUFIs leader, is a very vocal, and highly visible, mouthpiece for Dominionist Christian Zionism whose events are attended by thousands of Evangelical Christians and Likudnik Jews. Hes a regular on the guest circuit of dominionist mega-churches, and his materials are freely distributed in churches where donations to his organization are collected. Hard-right politicians from both Israel and the USA are his frequent companions, despite his well-known penchant for anti-semiticism, an anti-semiticism that borders on psychotic. (Link has a great list of sourced Hagee quotes.) Hagee is fond of donning a tallit (prayer shawl) for sermons, thinks the anti-christ is a gay half-Jewish German man, subscribes to the New World Order/Global Currency/International Banking conspiracy theory and blames Jews for the Holocaust. (With friends like this, Israel needs NO enemies.)

John Hagee
First, God sent the fisherman to Israel. These were the Zionists, men like Theodore Herzl who called for the Jews of Europe and the World to come to Palestine and establish the Jewish state. The Jews were encouraged to escape while there was still time.... [Then] God sent the hunters. The hunter is one who pursues his target with force and fear. No one could see the horror of the Holocaust coming, but the force and fear of Hitler's Nazis drove the Jewish people back to the only home God ever intended for the Jews to have-Israel...

From: Jerusalem Countdown ( via: Amazon UK ) by John Hagee
The second Jewish issue Dominionist Christians face is the need to herd as many Jews as possible into Israel. As American Jewish funding for Aliyah (Jewish immigration to Israel) has dwindled, the Dominionist Christians have stepped into the lurch. But theres a dark side to their magnanimity. In the majority of cases, the targeted immigrants are in the former Soviet Union, and have not lived as Jews for generations. The Dominionist missionaries literally pore over official records to identify clients that have at least 1 Jewish grandparent. These clients are then taught so-called Messianic Judaism (which is no more than Christianity dressed up in a prayer shawl). The Christian Zionists then provide the funds for the client to move to Israel as well as day-to-day support once theyre settled in the Promised Land (West Bank, of course). Its so much of an issue that the IDF (Israeli Defense Force) has had to perform their own conversions when they discovered that 6000 new recruits werent Jewish according to Jewish law. The tip-off was when the new recruits wanted to be sworn in on the New Testament! The most recent addition to the Dominionist Aliyah effort is in Latin America, where they are sponsoring DNA tests to identify candidates with sufficient Jewish markers in their blood to qualify for Israeli citizenship under the Law of Return. The goal of all this effort is to get enough Christians who are ethnically Jewish (or part-Jewish) to reside in Israel so Jesus will return. At the rate they are going, its conceivable that Israel will be a Christian state in the near future.

The final Jewish issue the Dominionists must address is the need to convert a critical mass of Jews to Christianity. Of course, they dont call it Christianitythey call it messianic Judaism, but lipstick (or a kippa?) on a pigits still a pig! In the words of a former Pentecostal pastor who now works for the counter-missionary group, Jews For Judaism, Over the last 20 years, a multi-million dollar assimilation movement has evolved internationally to woo, win, entice, beguile, or ensnare the secularized Jew, the unaffiliated Jew, the biblically illiterate Jew, the disillusioned Jew. He defines the conversion of a Jew as the ultimate Christian mitzvah. Dominionist Christian ministries have created some 300 "messianic" synagogues in the US, and more than 100 in Israel. Thats more messianic institutions in Israel than the combined total for Reform and Conservative and they are lobbying hard for official recognition as legitimate Jews in Israel.

The messianic synagogue doesnt display overtly Christian symbols, but makes use of a plethora of Jewish ones. They are fond of shofars, prayer shawls, and kippas; but the service sounds more like a Christian revival. Theyve even appropriated the beautiful, haunting Hatikvah (Israels National Anthem) and changed the words. (Its the opening song in the link. Heres the real Hatikvah, if youre interested.) Just as some have done in regards to Islam, some Dominionists are officially converting to Judaism to target the vulnerable in the Jewish population within the traditional synagogue. In an exemplary case, 1000 American Evangelicals are requesting to immigrate to Israel and convert there to Orthodox Judaism. Given the intense proselytizing efforts of Messianics and other Christians, this is a causing a very real problem. The Jewish community, both here and in Israel, has been slow to catch on and is scrambling to counter the missionizing efforts. In Israel, this is being down primarily by the organizations Jewish Israel and Yad L'Achim. Here in the US, the counter-missionary efforts are led by Jews For Judaism and Outreach Judaism.

This finishes my look at the Dominionists' efforts in respect to the Religion Mountain. Ill be looking next at the Family Mountain. Im happy to report that it doesnt look quite so daunting as the Religion Mountain turned out to be.

Id like to give a shout out to Jewish Israel, Jews For Judaism, and Talk To Action for all the work theyve been doingand are doingon bringing the Dominionist agenda to the public.

Lenina Rosenweg
5th October 2011, 03:26
thinks the anti-christ is a gay half-Jewish German man,

So here's my shout out to any male gay German Jews out there (could it be an American German Jew?) Where are you when we need you? Wo seid Ihr, wenn Sie brrauchen?If you're on RevLeft, please respond ASAP!These fundi morons are driving me crazy!

Seriously, as I understand the Dominionist philosopher is the late Frances Shaeffer, a "theologian" who was essentially a Christian fascist.A few years ago a family member tried very hard to convert me. I actually went to her church a few times, a strange experience. I'm known to be a huge bibliophile and I love to read. They kept pressing me to read Schaeffer, a "great intellectual". They lent me one of his books, which I thumbed through. It started with a quote from Noam Chomsky but after that it was basically a right wing counter cultural rant against modernism.Shaeefer's son wrote a sort of expose about how weird the guy was. The Wikipedia account is very sanitized.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Schaeffer

Christian fundamentalists idolize "the Jews" aslong as they fit into their conception of the Chosen People.The cognitive dissonance of an atheist Jewish Marxist would fry their synapses.

Zostrianos
5th October 2011, 06:04
John Hagee's a piece of shit. Here's some shocking sermons from him:
8mQvvGJYQaM And his thoughts on hurricane Katrina yEFWLb-a_as