Nazbols?

[tir1944]

What do you think of Nazbols (Nationa-Bolsheviks) in Russia?

[Commissar Rykov]

Nutbars who can't decide if they are Nazis or some warped type of "Stalinist."

[Rooster]

If you can't work out yourself then why are you posting here?

[Susurrus]

Misguided fools.

[tir1944]

If you can't work out yourself then why are you posting here?
I can,don't you worry,i'm just asking too see what other people think of them...

[Commissar Rykov]

There are, in the 20th century, only three ideologies that have managed to demonstrate that their principles are realistic in terms of their political-administrative implementation - these are liberalism, communism and fascism. As much as one may like to - it is impossible to name another model of society which would not be one of the forms of these ideologies and [which], at the same time, existed in reality. There are liberal countries, there are communist [countries] and there are fascist (nationalist) [countries]. Others are absent. And are impossible. In Russia, we have passed two ideological stages – the communist and the liberal. What remains is fascism.
---Aleksandr Dugin from Fascism: Borderless and Red

From the words of the man who created the Nazbol Ideology.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Off with their heads...

[Ryan the Commie Girl]

No better or worse than any other group of Revisionists. I actually like them a lot more than I like MTW's, Redists. Their flag is sorta cool, in a Superman The Red Son sort of way.

[Commissar Rykov]

No better or worse than any other group of Revisionists. I actually like them a lot more than I like MTW's, Redists. Their flag is sorta cool, in a Superman The Red Son sort of way.
You like fascists? The fuck.

[Susurrus]

Their flag is sorta cool, in a Superman The Red Son sort of way.

They have a good propaganda dept. and active membership. Otherwise, worthless. I can't help but think the vast majority of their membership could be quite easily brought to reason.

[Ryan the Commie Girl]

You like fascists? The fuck.


When did I say that I did?

[Commissar Rykov]

They have a good propaganda dept. and active membership. Otherwise, worthless. I can't help but think the vast majority of their membership could be quite easily brought to reason.
Most of the NazBols are art students hence the interesting propaganda that comes out of their ranks but they are largely broken party since the real brains of the outfit has broken off to side with the Kremlin while the other half is still outlawed and largely a joke amongst Russian Nationalist Circles. That last action I heard they were even involved in was trashing some government or party office in Moscow while waiting for the police to arrest them.

[Commissar Rykov]

When did I say that I did?
You talk like they are Marxists they are not I would suggest reading some of their lit though it is hard to find in English I used to have a ton of pdfs from them. They reject Marxism and suggest Stalin was some kind of Fascist Godsend to save Rus from the horrors...of other fascists? I don't understand their ideology and it might just have been some bad translations but they hate homosexuals, transexuals, foreigners though the Kremlin Group supports immigration because Putin says so, nationalist, and rather paranoid towards the West they also believe in being Third Rome and thus Russia will lead the rest of the world into fascism.

[Ryan the Commie Girl]

You talk like they are Marxists they are not I would suggest reading some of their lit though it is hard to find in English I used to have a ton of pdfs from them. They reject Marxism and suggest Stalin was some kind of Fascist Godsend to save Rus from the horrors...of other fascists? I don't understand their ideology and it might just have been some bad translations but they hate homosexuals, transexuals, foreigners though the Kremlin Group supports immigration because Putin says so, nationalist, and rather paranoid towards the West they also believe in being Third Rome and thus Russia will lead the rest of the world into fascism.

To be honest I don't give a shit.

I hate all enemies of Marxism-Leninism.

A NazBol to me on the field would be no different than any other, just a better looking bloodstained flag as a trophy.

[Commissar Rykov]

To be honest I don't give a shit.

I hate all enemies of Marxism-Leninism.

A NazBol to me on the field would be no different than any other, just a better looking bloodstained flag as a trophy.
Then why bother posting in this thread if you don't give a shit or even know what you are talking about? I swear I don't understand people at times.

[DarkPast]

National Bolsheviks are fascists who hide behind a red flag and the image of Stalin as a "great leader". 'Cause you know, praising Hitler is not exactly a good idea in Russia, considering its history.

Anyway, I consider them very dangerous because of their potential to play havoc on social movements by drawing activists out from the Left into the Right, and catching the imagination of disaffected youth by seemingly taking up some left wing stances and engaging in direct action.

[Ryan the Commie Girl]

Then why bother posting in this thread if you don't give a shit or even know what you are talking about? I swear I don't understand people at times.

I don't recall asking for your understanding.

[Commissar Rykov]

National Bolsheviks are fascists who hide behind a red flag and the image of Stalin as a "great leader". 'Cause you know, praising Hitler is not exactly a good idea in Russia, considering its history.

Anyway, I consider them very dangerous because of their potential to play havoc on social movements by drawing activists out from the Left into the Right, and catching the imagination of disaffected youth by seemingly taking up some left wing stances and engaging in direct action.
That is the real danger as they go out purposefully recruiting the "misfits" of society specifically the youth that don't fit in anywhere because the other Nationalist Movements are too violent for them. Russia has a lot of problems that I don't envy especially in regards to their massive Nationalist Movements that are gathering under a Kremlin Banner. I will give Putin credit he has done well dissecting elements from movements he can use then cracking down on the remains until they are nothing more than a cultural or historical oddity.

[CommieTroll]

You like fascists? The fuck.

She obviously didn't mean it like that, it's like me saying I'd take the confederates over the union any day. The Confederacy did have a pretty cool flag but does this mean I advocate the ownership of slavery? No

[The Stalinator]

PdrEb4xIgv8

This should say everything about how seriously the nazbol movement is to be taken.

The Stalinator photoshops were so fucking funny, though, that I had to make them my namesake.

[Commissar Rykov]

PdrEb4xIgv8

This should say everything about how seriously the nazbol movement is to be taken.

The Stalinator photoshops were so fucking funny, though, that I had to make them my namesake.
That video still makes me giggle.

[Ryan the Commie Girl]

She obviously didn't mean it like that, it's like me saying I'd take the confederates over the union any day. The Confederacy did have a pretty cool flag but does this mean I advocate the ownership of slavery? No

Thanks for getting it :D

[CommieTroll]

That video still makes me giggle.

It wreaks of Nazi fetishism, I never knew how undesirable the NazBols really are. Are they accepted among the skinheads in Russia?

[Commissar Rykov]

It wreaks of Nazi fetishism, I never knew how undesirable the NazBols really are. Are they accepted among the skinheads in Russia?
Not from what I know of they are typically considered too non-violent for the majority of the Nationalist Scene. They are more into dramatic protests with lots of cameras, red paint, and random screaming as the OMON bashes their heads in. Most of membership at least what I have heard from Russian Nationalists is kids in University who just want to rebel. Most Russian Skinheads I know of don't like to recruit from anyone in University mostly because it isn't very easy to convince them to risk their education to kick Azerbaijanis in the head on the subway.

[CommieTroll]

PURjKT_eUvE

Fuck the NazBols, these are the guys to worry about

[ВАЛТЕР]

PdrEb4xIgv8

This should say everything about how seriously the nazbol movement is to be taken.

The Stalinator photoshops were so fucking funny, though, that I had to make them my namesake.

Most obnoxious/funny "political" video I've seen...had to turn it off after 3 minutes though, couldn't listen to it any more. Or read the constant demand that I "must be hard as fucking steel" lol

[#FF0000]

Well I mean

they're fascists of course

and their flag isn't even that interesting :mellow:

[#FF0000]

also one of my favorite news sources, the Exiled, seems to have a big ol' crush with their leader, Limonov, and it makes me kinda sad.

[ВАЛТЕР]

PURjKT_eUvE

Fuck the NazBols, these are the guys to worry about

Where is the NKVD when you need them?

[eric922]

So a group of nationalists idolize a man whose home country, their nation just invaded? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense... Oh, and maybe I read their messages wrong, but it looks like they kept trying to point out that Stalinism or at least their version of it was only leftist in comparison to the capitalists. Now, I'm really confused. Oh and they said hail the Strasser brothers. Do we need anymore proof they are Nazi scum?

[MustCrushCapitalism]

The entire NazBol ideology makes no sense whatsoever and should just be completely disregarded.

[Aleenik]

I researched them for a mere 5 minutes and I can tell I don't like them at all. Also, their name reminds me of Nazgûl (http://lotr.wikia.com/wiki/Nazg%C3%BBl). Coincidence? I think not!

[Die Rote Fahne]

proto-fascist clowns.

[CommieTroll]

Where is the NKVD when you need them?

Who needs the NKVD when we could just send them to the gas chambers:laugh: Fascism to fight fascism. In reality I don't think there is that much that can be done unfortunately, hopefully Putin will purge the fuck out of them but that's unlikely

[ВАЛТЕР]

Who needs the NKVD when we could just send them to the gas chambers:laugh: Fascism to fight fascism. In reality I don't think there is that much that can be done unfortunately, hopefully Putin will purge the fuck out of them but that's unlikely

Send those kind FSB boys over to have a chat with them...:)

[CommieTroll]

Send those kind FSB boys over to have a chat with them...:)

By chat I hope you mean they can all sit down down together, have a cool pint and sort out their differences together. Actually, fuck that. The gas chambers is the most humane decision :laugh:

[thriller]

I've noticed in quite a few nazbol videos have antifa symbols and flags. WTF?? Then again nazis claim to be socialist so who knows...

[khad]

This entire thread demonstrates just how fucking ignorant the Western left is. Everyone acts like there's a fucking nazbol boogeyman in their closet or something. Their ideology may be worthless, but they're mostly harmless. If you all knew the first thing about Russian politics or activists, you'd know that the party's campaigns basically focus on human rights rhetoric.

That's right, they've become liberals and are part of Kasparov's Other Russia bullshit.

As for people confused as to why the nazbols fly antifa flags, it's because they've been butting heads with the REAL Nazis from the beginning. National Bolshevism in the FSU has always been relatively racially inclusive because it grew out of a Eurasianist sentiment. Their leader Limonov even spoke out against Salman Rushdie for profaning Islam.

But really, ha ha ha, blah blah blah, the true enemies of the left are these irrelevant human rights activists, but whatever.

[NewSocialist]

Then why bother posting in this thread if you don't give a shit or even know what you are talking about? I swear I don't understand people at times.

Don't let this puppet fool you. I'm pretty sure it's another troll from the "Socialist" Phailanx (http://www.socialistphalanx.com).

Anyone who thinks "National Bolshevism" is an OK idea just needs to watch this video
itHdrgu29Iw
If anyone thinks it's "OK" after seeing that, they're a nazi dumb ass.

[khad]

Don't let this puppet fool you. I'm pretty sure it's another troll from the "Socialist" Phailanx (http://www.socialistphalanx.com).

Anyone who thinks "National Bolshevism" is an OK idea just needs to watch this video
itHdrgu29Iw
If anyone thinks it's "OK" after seeing that, they're a nazi dumb ass.
How ignorant do you want to look?

This isn't the main-line National Bolshevik Party but the National Bolshevik Front splinter group which rejected Limonov and his leadership/liberalism but was unable to take control of the party.

Watching the lot of you is like watching a bunch of chickens running with their heads cut off. I've come to accept that people from America and Western Europe think that their opinions are worthwhile by virtue of them being from those areas, but this is just sad.

To reiterate, the NBP are liberals now and are irrelevant. They don't really help the left; they don't really hurt it. Although I do know that there is some cross-membership with other groups like the AKM.

[Dimitri Molotov]

Since Nazbolism can be used to convert Leftists into Right wingers, do you think that could happen the other way around?

I have one of my good friends who decided to become a nazi skinhead over the summer, when he used to be a Communist like me. He is a total outcast and he told me he was miserable until he "found hitler"... but he is still sympathetic towards Communists apparently because he used to be one and I am still good friends with him. I think he is a little confused, but what do you think he would say about this movement? Now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be good at all because he would just give us a bad name. That's just what I think, I still think Fascists are scumbags, even if he is my good friend. What do you guys think? Can this movement convert both ways?

[khad]

And before any of you trot out those Dugin quotes again:

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1058689.html


Looking back at the NBP's activities in the 1990s, the leader of the rival Communist Party-controlled Young Left Front, Ilya Ponamarev, told kreml.org on 4 April that "the organization never was or is a youth movement at all."

"It is a postmodernist aesthetic project of intellectual provocateurs (in the positive meaning of the word) in which many bright and nontrivial personalities like Eduard Limonov, Aleksandr Dugin, Sergei Kurikhin, and [analyst] Stanislav Belkovskii were involved," Ponamarev said. "It was an effort, and, a quite successful one, to mobilize the most passionate and intellectually dissatisfied part of society (in contrast to the Communist Party, which utilized the social and economic protests of the leftist electorate). For this mobilization, the NBP used a bizarre mixture of totalitarian and fascist symbols, geopolitical dogma, leftist ideas, and national-patriotic demagoguery."

In 1998, Dugin and his followers left the NBP. After Dugin's exit, the NBP quickly moved to the left wing of Russia's political spectrum, accusing Dugin and his group of being fascists.And get this:


The conflict between the FSB and NBP was exacerbated by the tactics of "direct action," in which NBP activists publicly attacked people they considered symbols of the regime or domestic or foreign allies of the Kremlin. The NBP's favorite tactics were throwing mayonnaise or tomatoes at prominent public figures. Since 1998, such people as former Prime Minister Mikhail Kasyanov, NATO Secretary-General Lord George Robertson, Central Election Commission Chairman Aleksandr Veshnyakov, and film director Nikita Mikhalkov were subjected to such attacks by the NBP, while former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev and Great Britain's Prince Charles were hit in face with bunches of flowers.

For these and other nonviolent actions, which the NBP calls "velvet terror," many of its activists have been arrested and sentenced to serious prison terms. According to the NBP website (http://nbp-info.ru) since the party's creation over 100 of its members have been in Russian prisons, while 47 are still serving their sentences or are awaiting trial.Flower power? Velvet terror?

What do we call that?

L-I-B-E-R-A-L-I-S-M

[Rodrigo]

The leaders are not "misguided fools". Probably they know, secretly, about how contradictory is their movement. National-Bolshevism is just the propaganda tool Nazi Russians found to get more members (gullible, newbies, etc. -- the misguided fools hehe) to their cause in that region, just like Greek nazis found a "Greek way" to get people to Golden Dawn. But Nazbol is a bigger salad; they mix communist and Nazi imagery, look like anarchists (because of direct action and the riots with the police) and think it's coherent to defend Marxist and Fascist personalities, while telling how bad and utopian is Marxism.

Summarizing, Nazbol is a big political joke! Like Anarcho-Fascism! :lol:

[Kornilios Sunshine]

If you can't work out yourself then why are you posting here?
Hey he might already know but want the others opinion.It is never bad to ask for others opinions.

[NewSocialist]

How ignorant do you want to look?

This isn't the main-line National Bolshevik Party but the National Bolshevik Front splinter group which rejected Limonov and his leadership/liberalism but was unable to take control of the party.

Watching the lot of you is like watching a bunch of chickens running with their heads cut off. I've come to accept that people from America and Western Europe think that their opinions are worthwhile by virtue of them being from those areas, but this is just sad.

To reiterate, the NBP are liberals now and are irrelevant. They don't really help the left; they don't really hurt it. Although I do know that there is some cross-membership with other groups like the AKM.

Limonov's party has a fucking nazi flag with a hammer and sickle in it to fool people. His ideology is class collaboration, corporatism and panrussian chauvinism. It might not be racist but its nationalism and fascist anyway. You can think this is harmless but I won't be fooled.

[Rodrigo]

NBFront is "racialist". NBParty isn't. That's the difference.

They say they're not racist, but racialist -- it's something like "each race on its place" -- I'll have to check an old conversation I had on YouTube with a nazbol, and then come back with richer explanation, tonight. :)

[EvilRedGuy]

Racialism is just a cover for Racism, fool.

Multiracial FTW! :thumbup:

[thriller]

Since Nazbolism can be used to convert Leftists into Right wingers, do you think that could happen the other way around?

I have one of my good friends who decided to become a nazi skinhead over the summer, when he used to be a Communist like me. He is a total outcast and he told me he was miserable until he "found hitler"... but he is still sympathetic towards Communists apparently because he used to be one and I am still good friends with him. I think he is a little confused, but what do you think he would say about this movement? Now that I think about it, it probably wouldn't be good at all because he would just give us a bad name. That's just what I think, I still think Fascists are scumbags, even if he is my good friend. What do you guys think? Can this movement convert both ways?

I know people who used to be nazis an fascists who since have turned to socialism. For the people it took some powerful messages, such as family or friends becoming broken hearted because of the hate the other person has for everyone. It sounds like your friend is pretty confused and just wants to be accepted. I would suggest asking him why a single person made him feel better? Maybe suggest that no one can make them happy but themselves, and it's only a matter of time until that person (Hitler) let's them down. Has he read Mein Kampf and does he understand the 'thinking' behind nazism, or does he just like the action/imagery/group?

[Thirsty Crow]

Flower power? Velvet terror?

What do we call that?

L-I-B-E-R-A-L-I-S-M
This has nothing to do with nazbols per se, but I find this approach quite pathetic. It's just enough to resolve any problems you have with a tactic by mere name calling, thus removing any need for further elaboration (and reflection)
Care to explain just how does a specific (though obviously very limited in scope and effect) tactic of symbolic violence, especially when utilized by ostensibly radical groups (here I'm NOT referring to the actual acts of these people, but rather to a hypothetical in which revolutionary groups would do so) fit into the political framework of liberalism?

Of course, one could argue against these acts on many grounds, one of them being the total idiocy of submitting activists to the repressive apparatus of a bourgeois state like the Russian one which could lock them up for a good period of time. But the point stands.

[Nox]

Summarizing, Nazbol is a big political joke! Like Anarcho-Fascism! :lol:

It's almost as bad as National Anarchism!

http://www.newrightausnz.com/activistpage/logo_na.jpg

[Aleenik]

It's almost as bad as National Anarchism!

http://www.newrightausnz.com/activistpage/logo_na.jpgMy gosh. National Anarchism? I just googled it and oh my gosh. What an epic fail.

Oh, the Humanity!

[Commissar Rykov]

My gosh. National Anarchism? I just googled it and oh my gosh. What an epic fail.

Oh, the Humanity!
It is an interesting ideology in that it is a weird breakoff from Strasserism. It seems to me to be an attempt at having National Socialist Ideology without having a direct tie to it...even though they list the Strasser Brothers as their chief ideologues.

[khad]

This has nothing to do with nazbols per se, but I find this approach quite pathetic. It's just enough to resolve any problems you have with a tactic by mere name calling, thus removing any need for further elaboration (and reflection)
Care to explain just how does a specific (though obviously very limited in scope and effect) tactic of symbolic violence, especially when utilized by ostensibly radical groups (here I'm NOT referring to the actual acts of these people, but rather to a hypothetical in which revolutionary groups would do so) fit into the political framework of liberalism?

Of course, one could argue against these acts on many grounds, one of them being the total idiocy of submitting activists to the repressive apparatus of a bourgeois state like the Russian one which could lock them up for a good period of time. But the point stands.
Your question is off base. What I am telling you is that the NBP is formally working with Kasparov's Other Russia, a western-style liberal opposition group, and that they have adopted the language of the "color revolutions" and are using international human rights rhetoric to draw attention to their activists in jail. In fact, the NBP has recently renamed itself the Other Russia in an attempt to get the party registered.

A hypothetical radical group could carry out these hypothetical action without falling into a hypothetical liberal political hegemony, but that's not the point. The specific conditions of Eastern European politics and the NBP's own political alliances make their actions liberal and meaningless.

You can look at the kind of stuff the NBP/Other Russia Party organizes today:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy-31

http://drugoros.ru/

[AnarchoSyndicalist]

The entire NazBol ideology makes no sense whatsoever and should just be completely disregarded.

This, completely this.

[AnarchoSyndicalist]

NazBols are really the jokes of humanity. They are beyond Epic Fail. :thumbdown:


Google Aleksander Dugin
This guy was the leading organizer of the NazBols, an admirer of the facist Julius Evola...do you see a pattern? Plus, the National Bolshevik Party considers itself Eurasianist, advocating the creation of a Russian-dominated empire that would include all of Europe, as well as northern and central Asia, or in other words a facist imperialist dream on which they wack off.:D

[khad]

NazBols are really the jokes of humanity. They are beyond Epic Fail. :thumbdown:


Google Aleksander Dugin
This guy was the leading organizer of the NazBols, an admirer of the facist Julius Evola...do you see a pattern? Plus, the National Bolshevik Party considers itself Eurasianist, advocating the creation of a Russian-dominated empire that would include all of Europe, as well as northern and central Asia, or in other words a facist imperialist dream on which they wack off.:D
And you missed the party by more than a decade.

I never thought I would be defending liberals and social dems, but don't you have bigger problems besides these phantasmal nazbol boogeymen to deal with?

http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1058689.html


In 1998, Dugin and his followers left the NBP. After Dugin's exit, the NBP quickly moved to the left wing of Russia's political spectrum, accusing Dugin and his group of being fascists.I'm far more interested in seeing all you circle jerkers explain to me how the campaign for Article 31 constitutes a fascist menace that must be combatted by every leftist cell in your true leftist bodies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategy-31


Strategy-31 (Russian: Стратегия-31) is a series of civic protests in support of the right to peaceful assembly in Russia guaranteed by Article 31 of the Russian Constitution. Since 31 July 2009, the protests were held in Moscow on Triumfalnaya Square on the 31st of every month with 31 days.

Strategy-31 was initiated by Eduard Limonov, founder of the National Bolshevik Party and one of the leaders of The Other Russia coalition. It was subsequently supported by many prominent Russian human rights organisations including the Moscow Helsinki Group, the Memorial human rights centre and other public and political movements and associations. It started with modest support but with each event increased in the numbers.

Every one of the Stategy-31 actions since it commenced has been refused permission by the authorities on the grounds that other activities were planned to take place on Triumfalnaya Square at the same time on the respective dates. These "counter-actions" included the “Choose Health, Be Like Us!” festival (July 31, 2009), a youth sports festival (August 31, 2009), the “Division” military-sports festivity (October 31, 2009), an action of the pro-Kremlin “Young Russia” movement (December 31, 2009), and the “Winter Amusements” festivity (January 31, 2010).[1] Each of the Strategy-31 actions was dispersed by regular and riot police and accompanied by large-scale detentions of participants and passers-by.

The action attracted a strong public and international response on December 31, 2009, when among dozens of other participants the police grabbed and detained the Chairperson of the Moscow Helsinki Group Lyudmila Alexeyeva (84). The President of the European Parliament Jerzy Buzek and the US National Security Council expressed their outrage at the detention of the prominent human rights activist,[2] while The New York Times devoted its front page to an article about this protest action.[3]

The strategy 31 action on 31 May 2010 has gathered a record number of participants (more than 2000 according to some sources)[1] and was dispersed with over 100 arrests.[2]

Since January 2010, the Strategy-31 actions have spread from Moscow, to other Russian cities including St. Petersburg, Archangelsk, Vladivostok, Yekaterinburg, Kemerovo and Irkutsk (about twenty Russian cities in total).

On August 31 of 2010 protests took place globally, in London, New York, Toronto and Tel Aviv. [4]. The original initiative for "Strategy-31 Abroad" came from the blog of Alex Goldfarb, a close associate of exiled Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky[5] - though this was originally denied by Andrei Sidelnikov, the organizer of the London protests.

[Thirsty Crow]

A hypothetical radical group could carry out these hypothetical action without falling into a hypothetical liberal political hegemony, but that's not the point.
Okay, that's all I was looking for with respect to the actual tactic in itself (probably I musjudged your argument for an unconditional attack difrected against the tactic itself), and the rest of the explanation is sufficient.

[Iron Felix]

Meh, westerns don't seem to know anything about Russian society.

[Rodrigo]

Racialism is just a cover for Racism, fool.

Actually not, at least in theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racialism

"Racialism is the basic epistemological position that not only do races exist, but also that there are significant differences between them. This is to be contrasted with racism, which also assumes that some races are superior to others; or, in an altered meaning, refers to discrimination based on the concept of race."


Multiracial FTW! :thumbup:Multiethnic* :)


I'll post the things YouTube's user Nazbol87 sent me by PM in 15/12/2009.

[Rodrigo]

87 = Heil Goebbels?

MESSAGE NUMBER 1


National Bolshevism is a complex ideology and there are different strands of National Bolshevik theory. The ideology originated in Germany, with political theorist Ernst Niekisch.

The two major categories of National Bolshevism today are the Limonov faction (NBP) and the Dugin faction (NBF) and even within those camps they groups vary a bit. As our video shows, we are the NBF faction.

National Bolshevism in its most basic interpretation is a fusion of Nationalism (particularly National Syndicalism) with Lenin's NEP (New Economic Policy). Now within the 'Nationalist' question comes some of the differences between the National Bolshevik factions. To us, the National Bolshevik Front, racial unity and preservation is the foremost task of Nationalism. The Limonov faction does not acknowledge the biological reality of race being that important to the nation, we entirely disagree. The NBP promotes imperialism and preservation of Russian cultural traditions. We acknowledge some Russian traditions as being important but we find no use in imperialism in this modern age.

We share some in common with Nazi (National Socialist), because we share some ideological similarities with some National Socialist thought, such as the National Socialist theory of Gregor Strasser. We also promote racial policy, somewhat like the National Socialists (though more modern). We also believe in physically destroying the Capitalist right-wing.

We oppose Marxism because Marxism -like Anarchism- has proven itself to be a Utopian fantasy incompatible with human nature. Some of Marx's critique of Capitalism is useful, but his theory of stateless Communism and Internationalism is garbage.

The problem with "common Bolshevism" is it rhetorically denies and opposes the importance of Nationalism and it pays too much lip service to Marxism. The practice of Bolshevism under Stalin was in fact Nationalistic, like some other practices of Communism in Europe. We acknowledge Stalin as an important Nationalist in our history for his industrialization of our nation, revolution for the proletarian, promotion of Socialism in One Country, saving us from German imperialism, and starting up the Russian battle against the Jewish menace again.

National Bolshevism can be applied to any country, though it most conform to the varying social, historic and national conditions which vary throughout the world.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.


For now I leave you with comrade Aleksandr Dugin's National Bolshevik article, "Fascism -Borderless and Red":

FASCISM - BORDERLESS & RED

There are, in the 20th century, only three ideologies that have managed to demonstrate that their principles are realistic in terms of their political-administrative implementation - these are liberalism, communism and fascism. As much as one may like to - it is impossible to name another model of society which would not be one of the forms of these ideologies and [which], at the same time, existed in reality. There are liberal countries, there are communist [countries] and there are fascist (nationalist) [countries]. Others are absent. And are impossible. In Russia, we have passed two ideological stages the communist and the liberal. What remains is fascism.

1. Against national capitalism

One of the versions of fascism which, it seems, Russian society is today ready (or almost ready) to embrace is national capitalism. It is almost beyond doubt that the project of national capitalism or "right fascism" constitutes an ideological initiative of that part of the elite of society which is seriously concerned with the problem of power and feels acutely the power of time. Yet, the "national-capitalist," "right-wing" variation of fascism does by no means exhaust the nature of this ideology. Moreover, the union of the "national bourgeoisie" with the "intelligentsia" on which, according to some analysts, the coming Russian fascism will be based constitutes a glaring example for what, actually, is entirely alien to fascism as a world-view, as a doctrine, [and] as a style. "The domination of national capital" - this is a Marxist definition of the phenomenon of fascism. It does absolutely not take into account the specific philosophical self-reflection of fascist ideology [and] consciously ignores the fundamental core-pathos of fascism.

Fascism - this is nationalism, yet not any nationalism, but a revolutionary, rebellious, romantic, idealistic [form of nationalism] appealing to a great and transcendental idea, trying to put into practice the dream to give birth to a society of the hero and Superhuman, to change and transform the world. On the economic level, fascism is characterized rather by socialist or moderately socialist methods which subordinate personal, individual economic interests to the principles of national welfare, justice, [and] brotherhood. And finally, the fascist view of culture corresponds to a radical rejection of the humanistic, "excessively humane" mentality, i.e. of what represents the essence of the "intelligentsia." The fascist hates the intellectual as a type. He sees in him a masked bourgeois, a pretentious philistine, a chatterbox and irresponsible coward. The fascist loves the strong and the angel-like, at the same time. He embraces the cold and tragedy, he does not like warmth and comfort. In other words, fascism despises everything that makes up the essence of "national capitalism." He fights for the "domination of national idealism" (and not "national capital") and against the bourgeoisie and intelligentsia (and not for her and not with her). The fascist pathos is accurately defined in the famous phrase of Mussolini: "Rise, fascist and proletarian Italy!" "Fascist and proletarian" - such is the orientation of fascism. [It is] a labor and heroic, militant and creative, idealistic and futuristic ideology which does not have anything in common with securing additional governmental comfort for the traders (even if a thousand times national) and sinecures for the socially parasitic intelligentsia. The central figures of the fascist state, [and] fascist myth [are] the peasant, worker, [and] soldier. On the top, as the supreme symbol of the tragic fight with destiny, cosmic entropy [is] the god-like leader, Duce, Führer, who realizes in his supra-individual personality the extraordinary tension of national will for feat. Of course, somewhere, at the periphery, there is also a place for the honest citizen-merchant and university professor. They too put on party badges and go out to ceremonial meetings. But, in fascist reality, their figures are fading, getting lost, [and] move into the background. Not for them and not by them is the tone of the national revolution.

In history, clean, ideal fascism did not experience a direct incarnation. In practice, the urgent problems of assumption of power and establishing economic order forced the fascist leaders - including Mussolini, Hitler and Franco, as well as Salazar - to forge alliances with conservatives, national capitalists, big owners and corporation heads. Yet, this compromise always ended deplorable for the fascist regimes. The fanatic anti-communism of Hitler warmed up by the German capitalists cost Germany the defeat in its war with the USSR, while Mussolini - trusting into the honesty of the king (articulator of the interests exactly of big business) - was delivered by him to the renegades Badoglio and Ciano, who put the Duce into prison and threw themselves into the embrace of the Americans.

Franco held out the longest, and even that was because of the concessions of liberal-capitalist England and USA and because of [his] rejection to support the ideologically-related regimes of the Axis. Moreover, Franco was not a real fascist. National capitalism is the inner virus of fascism, its enemy [and] guarantor of its degeneration and perishing. National capitalism is in no way an essential characteristic of fascism as [national capitalism] is, on the contrary, an accidental and contradictory element in its inner structure.

Therefore, in our case, in the case of the growing Russian national capitalism, one cannot speak about fascism, but of an attempt to preliminarily pervert what is not to be circumvented. Such pseudo-fascism can be called "preventive," [or] "precautionary." It hastens to make itself known before an authentic, real, radically revolutionary and consistent fascism, a fascist fascism is, in full measure, born and becomes strong in Russia. National capitalists these are former [communist] party leaders who are used to bossing around and humiliating the people, and who subsequently, out of conformism, became "liberal democrats,"; and who, now that this stage is over, are, equally zealously, venturing to cover themselves with national clothes. Having democracy transformed into a farce, apparently, the partocrats, together with the obliging intelligentsia, are, decidedly up to foul and poison the nationalism that is advancing into society.

The nature of fascism [is] a new hierarchy, a new aristocracy. The novelty lies in that the hierarchy is based on natural, organic [and] clear principles - dignity, honor, courage [and] heroism. The dilapidated hierarchy which is trying to carry itself over into the era of nationalism is, as before, based on conformist abilities: "flexibility," "caution," "a taste for intrigues," "toadyism," etc. The obvious conflict between two styles, two human types, two normative systems is inescapable.

2. Russian socialism

It is absolutely unjustified to call fascism an "extremely right-wing" ideology. This phenomenon is much more precisely characterized with the paradoxical formula "Conservative Revolution." It is a combination of a "right-wing" cultural-political orientation - traditionalism, faithfulness to the soil, roots, national ethics - with a "left-wing" economic program - social justice, limitation to the market forces, deliverance from "credit slavery," prohibition of stock market speculation, monopolies and trusts, [and] primacy of honest work. In analogy to National Socialism which was often called simply "German socialism," one can speak of Russian fascism as "Russian socialism." The ethnic specification of the term "socialism" has, in this context, a special meaning. What is meant is formulation of a socio-economic doctrine, from the beginning, not on the basis of abstract dogmas and rationalistic laws, but on the basis of concrete, spiritual-ethical and cultural principles that have organically formed the nation as such. Russian socialism - that is not Russians for socialism, but socialism for the Russians. In distinction to rigid Marxist-Leninist dogmas, Russian national socialism proceeds from an understanding of social justice which is characteristic exactly for our nation, for our historical tradition, for our economic ethics.

Such a socialism will be more rural than proletarian, more communal and cooperative than administrative, more regionalistic than centralistic - all these are requirements of Russian national specificity which will find its expression in the doctrine and not only in practice.

3. New people

Such a Russian socialism should be built by new people, a new type of people, a new class. A class of heroes and revolutionaries. The remains of the party nomenclature and their ramshackle order should fall victim to the socialist revolution. The Russian national revolution. The Russian`s are longing for freshness, for modernity, for unfeigned romanticism, for living participation in some great cause. Everything that they are offered today [is] either archaic (the national patriots) or boring and cynical (the liberals). The dance and the attack, fashion and aggression, excessiveness and discipline, will and gesture, fanaticism and irony will seethe in the national revolutionaries - young, malicious, merry, fearless, passionate and not knowing limits. They [will] build and destroy, rule and fulfill orders, conduct purges of the enemies of the nation and tenderly take care of Russian elderly and children. Wrathfully and merrily will they approach the citadel of the ramshackle [and] rotten system. Yes, they deeply thirst for Power. They know how to use it. They will thrive in society; they will force the people into the sweet process of making history. New people. Finally, intelligent and brave. Such as are needed.

Immediately before his death, the French fascist writer Robert Brasillach voiced a strange prophecy: "I see how in the East, in Russia, fascism is rising a fascism borderless and red."

Note: Not a faded, brownish-pinkish national capitalism, but the blinding dawn of a new Russian Revolutionary Fascism - borderless as our lands, and red as our blood.


It was funny seeing this guy trying to convince me of how good is National-Bolshevism and how evil is Marxism and the Jews, maybe because I showed a false interest in becoming Nazbol, what actually was just to absorb as much info from him as I could. From what he said, National-Bolshevism is not different from a Russian version of Hitler's National-Socialism.

[Rodrigo]

Message number 2


the integralists of brazil and portugal were far too reactionary to truly be considered national socialists or fascist. As you mentioned, they upheld the church and were quite chummy with monarchists as well. This was also part of the problem with francoist spain. Mussolini too didn't adequately deal with the monarchy or church until the formation of his social republic, with the aid of comrade nicola bombacci and the germans. The only positive side to integralism was its following of the blood & soil ethic, organic nationalism.

One of german national socialism's triumphs was the start of reigning in the clergy. Hitler despised christianity and religion in general. He believed science (darwinism) would eventually displace religion all together. In the mean time, the party was entirely secular and bound to no religion. It is said this attitude helped inspire mexican socialist tomás garrido canabal's "red shirts."

many different communist regimes could be considered nationalistic, while they still rhetorically paid homage to marxism. East germany's democratic republic is an example, as well as the soviet union, slobodan milošević's socialist serbia, as well as third world nations such as muammar al-gaddafi's syrian regime, and arab socialism in general. I believe that yugoslavia and also ho chi minh's vietnam were nationalistic in their own right as well. Now, all of these regimes differ in numerous ways, but the thing they all have in common is modification of their politics to address the historical, cultural and racial aspects unique to each nation.

In this world of international capitalism, it's important that socialistic regimes do have some level of cooperation. When we (the national bolsheviks) say we are against internationalism we mean it in the following way: We believe that each race and culture in the world is unique and has the duty to be preserved, that due to the way human populations evolved we cannot truly even feel a genuine attachment to the plight of foreign people's (something psychologists such as steven pinker have addressed for quite some time), that nations must be preserved because stateless anarchism or left-marxism would lead the world to chaos and could never work. Political understanding and assistance (trade and so forth) is important though every nation and people should be as self-sufficient as possible (see autarky). So basically: Political/philosophical cooperation and understanding in the spirit of national self-preservation and sovereignty against the zionist/capitalist menace? Yes! No borders, no nations, anti-racism? No!

Oh yes, limonov is far more than just a trotsky look alike, he's an act alike! A pawn of zionist scum against the slavic people.

I will now leave you with another article from paul paul joseph goebbels, regarding germany's socialist idea, concepts which we apply in our own organic way to our russian socialism. It was written so people would understand the basic principles of the national socialist german workers party.

Your brothers in socialist revolution,

-nbf-


"those damn national socialists"
by joseph goebbels.
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why are we nationalists?

We are nationalists because we see the nation as the only way to bring all the forces of the nation together to preserve and improve our existence and the conditions under which we live.

The nation is the organic union of a people to protect its life. To be national is to affirm this union in word and deed. To be national has nothing to do with a form of government or a symbol. It is an affirmation of things, not forms. Forms can change, their content remains. If form and content agree, then the nationalist affirms both. If they conflict, the nationalist fights for the content and against the form. One may not put the symbol above the content. If that happens, the battle is on the wrong field and one's strength is lost in formalism. The real aim of nationalism, the nation, is lost.

That is how things are today in germany. Nationalism has turned into bourgeois patriotism and its defenders are battling windmills. One says germany and means the monarchy. Another proclaims freedom and means black-white-red [the colors of the german flag]. Would our situation today be any different if we replaced the republic with a monarchy and flew the black-white-red flag? The colony would have different wallpaper, but its nature, its content, would stay the same. Indeed, things would be even worse, for a facade that conceals the facts dissipates the forces today fighting against slavery.

Bourgeois patriotism is the privilege of a class. It is the real reason for its decline. When 30 million are for something and 30 million are against it, things balance out and nothing happens. That is how things are with us. We are the world's pariah not because we do not have the courage to resist, but rather because out entire national energy is wasted in eternal and unproductive squabbling between the right and the left. Our way only goes downward, and today one can already predict when we will fall into the abyss.

Nationalism is more wide-reaching than internationalism. It sees things as they are. Only he who respects himself can respect others. If as a german nationalist i affirm germany, how can i hold it against a french nationalist who affirms france? Only when these affirmations conflict in vital ways will there be a power-political struggle. Internationalism cannot undo this reality. Its attempts at proof fail completely. And even when the facts seem to have some validity, nature, blood, the will to life, and the struggle for existence on this hard earth prove the falsity of fine theories.

The sin of bourgeois patriotism was to confound a certain economic form with the national. It connected two things that are entirely different. Forms of the economy, however firm they may seem, are changeable. The national is eternal. If i mix the eternal and the temporal, the eternal will necessarily collapse when the temporal collapses. This was the real cause for the collapse of liberal society. It was rooted not in the eternal, but in the temporal, and when the temporal declined it took the eternal down with it. Today it is only an excuse for a system that brings growing economic misery. That is the only reason why international jewry organizes the battle of the proletarian forces against both powers, the economy and the nation, and defeat them.

From this understanding, the young nationalism draws its absolute demand. The faith in the nation is a matter for everyone, never a group, a class or an economic clique. The eternal must be distinguished from the temporal. Maintaining a rotten economic system has nothing to do with nationalism, which is an affirmation of the fatherland. I can love germany and hate capitalism. Not only can i, i must. Only the annihilation of a system of exploitation carries with it the core of the rebirth of our people.

We are nationalists because as germans, we love germany. Because we love germany, we want to preserve it and fight against those who would destroy it. If a communist shouts "down with nationalism!", he means the hypocritical bourgeois patriotism that sees the economy only as a system of slavery. If we make clear to the man of the left that nationalism and capitalism, that is the affirmation of the fatherland and the misuse of its resources, have nothing to do with each other, indeed that they go together like fire and water, then even as a socialist he will come to affirm the nation, which he will want to conquer.

That is our real task as national socialists. We were the first to recognize the connections, and the first to begin the struggle. Because we are socialists we have felt the deepest blessings of the nation, and because we are nationalists we want to promote socialist justice in a new germany.

A young fatherland will rise when the socialist front is firm.

Socialism will become reality when the fatherland is free.

Why are we socialists?

We are socialists because we see in socialism, that is the union of all citizens, the only chance to maintain our racial inheritance and to regain our political freedom and renew our german state.

Socialism is the doctrine of liberation for the working class. It promotes the rise of the fourth class and its incorporation in the political organism of our fatherland, and is inextricably bound to breaking the present slavery and regaining german freedom. Socialism, therefore, is not merely a matter of the oppressed class, but a matter for everyone, for freeing the german people from slavery is the goal of contemporary policy. Socialism gains its true form only through a total fighting brotherhood with the forward-striving energies of a newly awakened nationalism. Without nationalism it is nothing, a phantom, a mere theory, a castle in the sky, a book. With it it is everything, the future, freedom, the fatherland!

The sin of liberal thinking was to overlook socialism's nation-building strengths, thereby allowing its energies to go in anti-national directions. The sin of marxism was to degrade socialism into a question of wages and the stomach, putting it in conflict with the state and its national existence. An understanding of both these facts leads us to a new sense of socialism, which sees its nature as nationalistic, state-building, liberating and constructive.

The bourgeois is about to leave the historical stage. In its place will come the class of productive workers, the working class, that has been up until today oppressed. It is beginning to fulfill its political mission. It is involved in a hard and bitter struggle for political power as it seeks to become part of the national organism. The battle began in the economic realm; it will finish in the political. It is not merely a matter of wages, not only a matter of the number of hours worked in a day — though we may never forget that these are an essential, perhaps even the most significant part of the socialist platform — but it is much more a matter of incorporating a powerful and responsible class in the state, perhaps even to make it the dominant force in the future politics of the fatherland. The bourgeoisie does not want to recognize the strength of the working class. Marxism has forced it into a straitjacket that will ruin it. While the working class gradually disintegrates in the marxist front, bleeding itself dry, the bourgeoisie and marxism have agreed on the general lines of capitalism, and see their task now to protect and defend it in various ways, often concealed.

We are socialists because we see the social question as a matter of necessity and justice for the very existence of a state for our people, not a question of cheap pity or insulting sentimentality. The worker has a claim to a living standard that corresponds to what he produces. We have no intention of begging for that right. Incorporating him in the state organism is not only a critical matter for him, but for the whole nation. The question is larger than the eight-hour day. It is a matter of forming a new state consciousness that includes every productive citizen. Since the political powers of the day are neither willing nor able to create such a situation, socialism must be fought for. It is a fighting slogan both inwardly and outwardly. It is aimed domestically at the bourgeois parties and marxism at the same time, because both are sworn enemies of the coming workers' state. It is directed abroad at all powers that threaten our national existence and thereby the possibility of the coming socialist national state.

Socialism is possible only in a state that is united domestically and free internationally. The bourgeoisie and marxism are responsible for failing to reach both goals, domestic unity and international freedom. No matter how national and social these two forces present themselves, they are the sworn enemies of a socialist national state.

We must therefore break both groups politically. The lines of german socialism are sharp, and our path is clear.

We are against the political bourgeoisie, and for genuine nationalism!

We are against marxism, but for true socialism!

We are for the first german national state of a socialist nature!

We are for the national socialist german workers party!

Why a workers' party?

Work is not mankind's curse, but his blessing. A man becomes a man through labor. It elevates him, makes him great and aware, raises him above all other creatures. It is in the deepest sense creative, productive, and culture-producing. Without labor, no food. Without food, no life.

The idea that the dirtier one's hands get, the more degrading the work, is a jewish, not a german, idea. As in every other area, the german first asks how, then what. It is less a question of the position i fill, and more a question of how well i do the duty that god has given me.

We call ourselves a workers' party because we want to rescue the word work from its current definition and give it back its original meaning. Anyone who creates value is a creator, that is, a worker. We refuse to distinguish kinds of work. Our only standard is whether the work serves the whole, or at least does not harm it, or if it is harmful. Work is service. If it works against the general welfare, then it is treason against the fatherland.

Marxist nonsense claimed to free labor, yet it degraded the work of its members and saw it as a curse and disgrace. It can hardly be our goal to abolish labor, but rather to give new meaning and content. The worker in a capitalist state — and that is his deepest misfortune — is no longer a living human being, a creator, a maker.

He has become a machine. A number, a cog in the machine without sense or understanding. He is alienated from what he produces. Labor is for him only a way to survive, not a path to higher blessings, not a joy, not something in which to take pride, or satisfaction, or encouragement, or a way to build character.

We are a workers' party because we see in the coming battle between finance and labor the beginning and the end of the structure of the twentieth century. We are on the side of labor and against finance. Money is the measuring rod of liberalism, work and accomplishment that of the socialist state. The liberal asks: What are you? The socialist asks: Who are you? Worlds lie between.

We do not want to make everyone the same. Nor do we want levels in the population, high and low, above and below. The aristocracy of the coming state will be determined not by possessions or money, but only on the quality of one's accomplishments. One earns merit through service. Men are distinguished by the results of their labor. That is the sure sign of the character and value of a person. The value of labor under socialism will be determined by its value to the state, to the whole community. Labor means creating value, not haggling over things. The soldier is a worker when he bears the sword to protect the national economy. The statesman also is a worker when he gives the nation a form and a will that help it to produce what it needs for life and freedom.

A furrowed brow is as much a sign of labor as a powerful fist. A white collar worker should not be ashamed to claim with pride that of which the manual laborer boasts: Labor. The relations between these two groups determine their mutual fate. Neither can survive without the other, for both are members of an organism that they must together maintain if they are to defend and expand their right to exist.

We call ourselves a workers' party because we want to free labor from the chains of capitalism and marxism. In battling for germany's future, we freely admit to it, and accept the odium from the liberal bourgeoisie that results. We know that we will succeed in bringing new blessings out of their curses.

God gave the nations territory to grow grain. The seed becomes grain and the grain becomes bread. The middleman of it all is labor.

He who despises labor but accepts its benefits is a hypocrite.

That is the deepest meaning of our movement: It gives things back their original significance, unconcerned that today they may be in danger of sinking into the swamp of a collapsing worldview.

He who creates value works, and is a worker. A movement that wants to free labor is a workers' party.

Therefore we national socialists call ourselves a worker's party.

When our victorious flags fly before us, we sing:

"we are the army of the swastika,
raise high the red flags!
We want to clear the way to freedom
for german labor!"

why do we oppose the jews?

We oppose the jews because we are defending the freedom of the german people. The jew is the cause and beneficiary of our slavery he has misused the social misery of the broad masses to deepen the dreadful split between the right and left of our people, to divide germany into two halves thereby concealing the true reason for the loss of the great war and falsifying the nature of the revolution.

The jew has no interest in solving the german question. He cannot have such an interest. He depends on it remaining unsolved. If the german people formed a united community and won back its freedom, there would be no place any longer for the jew. His hand is strongest when a people lives in domestic and international slavery, not when it is free, industrious, self-aware and determined. The jew caused our problems, and lives from them.

That is why we oppose the jew as nationalists and as socialists. He has ruined our race, corrupted our morals, hollowed out our customs and broken our strength. We owe it to him that we today are the pariah of the world. He was the leper among as long as we were german. When we forgot our german nature, he triumphed over us and our future.

The jew is the plastic demon of decomposition. Where he finds filth and decay, he surfaces and begins his butcher's work among the nations. He hides behind a mask and presents himself as a friend to his victims, and before they know it he has broken their neck.

The jew is uncreative. He produces nothing, he only haggles with products. With rags, clothing, pictures, jewels, grain, stocks, cures, peoples and states. He has somehow stolen everything he deals in. When he attacks a state he is a revolutionary. As soon as he holds power, he preaches peace and order so that he can devour his conquests in comfort.

What does anti-semitism have to do with socialism? I would put the question this way: What does the jew have to do with socialism? Socialism has to do with labor. When did one ever see him working instead of plundering, stealing and living from the sweat of others? As socialists we are opponents of the jews because we see in the hebrews the incarnation of capitalism, of the misuse of the nation's goods.

What does anti-semitism have to do with nationalism? I would put the question this way: What does the jew have to do with nationalism? Nationalism has to do with blood and race. The jew is the enemy and destroyer of the purity of blood, the conscious destroyer of our race. As nationalists we oppose the jews because we see the hebrews as the eternal enemy of our national honor and of our national freedom.

But the jew, after all, is also a human being. Certainly, none of us doubts that. We only doubt that he is a decent human being. He does not get along with us. He lives by other laws than we do. The fact that he is a human being is not sufficient reason for us to allow him to subject us in inhumane ways. He may be a human being — but what kind of a human being is he! If someone slaps your mother in the face, do you say: "thank you! He is after all a human being!" that is not a human being, it is a monster. Yet how much worse has the jew done to our mother germany, and is still doing today!

There are also white jews. True, there are scoundrels among us, even though they are germans, who act in immoral ways against their own racial and blood comrades. But why do we call them white jews? You use the term to describe something inferior and contemptible. Just as we do. Why do you ask us why we oppose the jews when you without knowing it are one too?

Anti-semitism is not christian. That means that it is christian to allow the jews to go on as they are, stripping the skin from our bodies and mocking us. To be a christian means to love one's neighbor as oneself! My neighbor is my racial and blood brother. If i love him, i have to hate his enemies. He who thinks german must despise the jews. The one requires the other.

Christ himself saw that love did not always work. When he found the moneychangers in the temple, he did not say: "children, love one another!" he took up a whip and drove them out.

We oppose the jews because we affirm the german people. The jew is our greatest misfortune.

It is not true that we eat jews for breakfast.

It is true that slowly but surely, he is stealing all that we have.

Things would be different if we behaved as germans.

Revolutionary demands

we do not enter parliament to use parliamentary methods. We know that the fate of peoples is determined by personalities, never by parliamentary majorities. The essence of parliamentary democracy is the majority, which destroys personal responsibility and glorifies the masses. A few dozen rogues and crooks run things behind the scenes. Aristocracy depends on accomplishment, the rule of the most able, and the subordination of the less capable to the will of the leadership. Any form of government — no matter how democratic or aristocratic it may outwardly appear — rests on compulsion. The difference is only whether the compulsion is a blessing or a curse for the community.

What we demand is new, decisive, and radical, revolutionary in the truest sense of the word. That has nothing to do with rioting and barricades. It may be that that happens here or there. But it is not an inherent part of the process. Revolutions are spiritual acts. They appear first in people, then in politics and the economy. New people form new structures. The transformation we want is first of all spiritual; that will necessarily change the way things are.

This revolutionary act is beginning to be visible in us. The result is a new type of person visible to the knowing eye: The national socialist. Consistent with his spiritual attitude, the national socialist makes uncompromising demands in politics. There is no if and when for him, only an either — or.

He demands:

The return of german honor. Without honor, one has no right to life. A nation that has pawned its honor has pawned its bread. Honor is the foundation of any people's community. Losing our honor is the true cause of the loss of our freedom.

In place of a slave colony, we want a restored german national state. The state is not an end in itself for us, but rather a means to an end. The true end is the race, the sum of all the living, creative forces of the people. The structure that today calls itself the german republic is not a way to maintain our racial inheritance. It has become an end in itself with no real connection to the people and their needs. We want to abolish the slave colony and replace it with a people's state in freedom.

Want work and bread for every productive national and blood comrade. Pay should be according to accomplishment. That means more pay for german workers! That will stop the senseless fighting in which we engage today.

First provide housing and food for the people, then pay reparations! No democrat, no republican, has the right to complain about this demand, for it was first raised by a banner carrier of november germany [the weimar republic, beginning in november 1918]. We only want to make the slogan a reality.

Provide essentials first! First we must meet the critical needs of the people, then we can produce luxury goods. Provide work for those willing to work! Give the farmers land! The german foreign policy that today sells what we have at below-market rates must be completely transformed and must focus radically on the german need for space, drawing the necessary power-political conclusions.

Peace among productive workers! Each should do his duty for the good of the whole community. The state then has the responsibility of protecting the individual, guaranteeing him the fruits of his labor. The people's community must not be a mere phrase, but a revolutionary achievement following from the radical carrying out of the basic life needs of the working class.

A ruthless battle against corruption! A war against exploitation, freedom for the workers! The elimination of all economic-capitalist influences on national policy.

A solution to the jewish question! We call for the systematic elimination of foreign racial elements from public life in every area. There must be a sanitary separation between germans and non-germans on racial grounds exclusively, not on nationality or even religious belief.

Down with democratic parliamentarianism! Establish a parliament based on occupations which determines production. Policies will be determined by a political body that earns is place by the laws of strength and selection.

The return of loyalty and faith in economic life. The complete reversal of the injustice that has robbed millions of germans of their possessions.

The right of personality before that of the mob. Germans always will have preference before foreigners and jews.

A battle against the destructive poison of international jewish culture! A strengthening of german forces and german customs. The elimination of corrupt semitic principles and racial decay.

The death penalty for crimes against the people! The gallows for profiteers and usurers!

An uncompromising program implemented by men who will implement it passionately. No slogans, only living energy.

That is what we demand!


In this message he makes clearer the concept of "racialism": "We believe that each race and culture in the world is unique and has the duty to be preserved".

[khad]

In this message he makes clearer the concept of "racialism": "We believe that each race and culture in the world is unique and has the duty to be preserved".
Rodrigo, you're quite the incompetent.


Your brothers in socialist revolution,

-nbf-This guy is from the NBF/anti-Limonov splinter tendency. Learn the difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Front


A group of NBP followers disagrees with Limonov's new strategy of seeking political alliances with pro-Western and pro-market liberal-democratic forces. They call themselves NBP bez Limonova (NBP without Limonov) or simply National Bolsheviks, because they regard themselves as the real followers of National Bolshevism, accusing Limonov of betraying party's original ideas in order to gain personal visibility. In August 2006, an anti-Limonovist faction of the NBP that is more right-wing, anti-liberal, anti-left, anti-Kasparov and, aggressively nationalist formed the National Bolshevik Front.[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevik_Party#cite_note-13)

[Stork]

National Anarchists come in two flavours really. First off you have crypto-fascists like the BANA (Bay Area National Anarchists) who actually campaigned to ban a film because it was racist to whites, yes, anarchists in favour of censorship. The other type are more reasonable and don't associate with them or call themselves NA, but they still believe that people are basically racist and without a state people will self-segregate. The youtube-user "Fringeelements" formerly "ConfederalSocialist" would be example of this second category.

[Rodrigo]

Rodrigo, you're quite the incompetent.

Why?


This guy is from the NBF/anti-Limonov splinter tendency.

I know.


Learn the difference.

What are you trying to prove? The controversy between NBP and NBF is similar to that between liberals and conservatives, but both are far-right conservatives.

[GatesofLenin]

National Bolsheviks are fascists who hide behind a red flag and the image of Stalin as a "great leader". 'Cause you know, praising Hitler is not exactly a good idea in Russia, considering its history.

Anyway, I consider them very dangerous because of their potential to play havoc on social movements by drawing activists out from the Left into the Right, and catching the imagination of disaffected youth by seemingly taking up some left wing stances and engaging in direct action.

Similar to what Hitler did with his "National Socialists", right?

[Rodrigo]

Similar to what Hitler did with his "National Socialists", right?

Exactly. They used to plagiarize Soviet posters and even the hammer-and-sickle:

http://www.thepeoplescube.com/images/HammerSickle_Swastika_Nazi_1934.jpg

[Yuppie Grinder]

I hate all enemies of Marxism-Leninism.


Most people with different political opions then you are good, hard-working people.

[Sheepy]

Just imagine it as a really bad joke.

Really bad joke.

[Commissar Rykov]

Most people with different political opions then you are good, hard-working people.
You are talking to a Nazi Sympathizer I doubt she cares about people who are opposed to her ideology.

[Yuppie Grinder]

You are talking to a Nazi Sympathizer I doubt she cares about people who are opposed to her ideology.
Most people aren't lenninists or nazi-sympathizers.