China's leaders have betrayed their people

[JohnTheMarxist]

http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/daily/foc...,130318,00.html (http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/daily/foc/0,8773,130318,00.html)

this makes me really sad. All those people died in the revolution for nothing it would seem. I also read that they don't even have socialized medicine anymore. It is all for-profit. Hopefully Cuba does not fall down this path. I understand that in the absence of a socialist trading bloc, a poor socialist nation does have to succumb to some capitalism but China definately took things way too far.

[SonofRage]

pretty old news, the article is from 2001 :D

[stonerboi]

The sorry state of what is now fascist China is the natural outcome of allowing a communist party to become infected with REVISIONISM!

The same thing happened in the former Eastern European countries and the USSR after 1956.

The only exeption to this was Socialist Albania under the Party of Labor of Albania (PLA) with it's general-secretary Enver Hoxha. Hoxha is one of the best speakers/writers on the odious subject of revisionism. I suggest you look Hoxha up on Marxists Internet Archive (http://www.marxists.org).

To prevent more China's, one must stand firm to Marxism-Leninism and not fall to the lies against Comrade Stalin and the counter-revolutionary path of 'Trotskyism'.

[Saint-Just]

Indeed Stonerboi. I would also suggest that Mao Zedong provided one of the best critiques of revisionism, defining the differences between Marxism-Leninism and revisionism of it. That is, 'On Khrushchev's Phoney Communism'.

[stonerboi]

Chairman Mao, Mao did indeed strike out against revisionism.

But don't forget to mention Comrade Enver Hoxha in his speech of 1960 against the revisionist course of the USSR.

Comrade Hoxha also gave a very good, I would even say the best, critique of the curse of 'Euro-communism'. I think that was written by Comrade Hoxha in 1982.

As you may well know I USED to be a Trotskyist, but I now can see how revisionist and reformist/class collaborationist Trotskyism is.

Since my re-evaluation of Marxism-Leninism I have joined the Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist) (RCPB-ML).

Chairman Mao, are you with the RCPB-ML or with another party, like the NCP or SLP?

[Comrade Ceausescu]

As time has gone by after 1976,China became less and less socialist,until now,where it is authorititian capitalism.

[PeacefulAnarchy]

China is nowhere near communist and hasn't really been that much communist at all except maybe in the begining. The people of China have been suffering for years. Hopefully sometime in the near future the people will get rights and then it becomes a democracy, in which it can then start moving towards socialism and people can speak up without getting killed. China needs to go through a cycle and break the whole tradition that they have which allowed for the facism to be created. I can't think of how to describe it right now. I studied China last spring a bit.

[Dr. Rosenpenis]

Silence, counter revolutionary! To the gulags now!
=D

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by [email protected] 1 2003, 07:30 PM
Chairman Mao, Mao did indeed strike out against revisionism.

But don't forget to mention Comrade Enver Hoxha in his speech of 1960 against the revisionist course of the USSR.

Comrade Hoxha also gave a very good, I would even say the best, critique of the curse of 'Euro-communism'. I think that was written by Comrade Hoxha in 1982.

As you may well know I USED to be a Trotskyist, but I now can see how revisionist and reformist/class collaborationist Trotskyism is.

Since my re-evaluation of Marxism-Leninism I have joined the Revolutionary Communist Party of Britain (Marxist-Leninist) (RCPB-ML).

Chairman Mao, are you with the RCPB-ML or with another party, like the NCP or SLP?
I have talked to as you know. But also I would say, SLP are good, I would like them to do well. I like their highly pro-immigration policy and their patriotism. But, they are declining now, a member I know said he did not receive his membership card this year, just because the party is breaking apart due to many of the old Labour members leaving because of Scargill's top down leaderhip (at least that is what they say).

I did not think you were ever a Trotskyist, I knew you are not M-L, pro-Stalin and Hoxha though.

As time has gone by after 1976,China became less and less socialist,until now,where it is authorititian capitalism.

It has become difficult to talk about politics in China now, since they don't want people really evaluating and becoming conscious of the situation. There is no clear ideological direction at present. They are capitalists who dress things up in M-L so that they may suppress criticism.