Yukos

[toastedmonkey]

The richest man in Russia has been arrested, afterfalling out with the Kremlin.

I have heard little about it, except a small news piece on channel 4.
They mentioned something about more Tycoons may be arrested.

What do you all know about it?

Could it be interpreted as a possible socialist movement, or is that being over optimistic?
Or quite the opposite?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/result...mepage&x=30&y=7 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?q=Mikhail+Khodorkovsky.&tab=news&go=homepage&x=30&y=7)

[Soviet power supreme]

Well it can be a political arrest.Khodorkovsky support the opposition against Putin but it may be that Khodorkovsky is guilty.

Personally i think that all oligarchs should be put into prisons. :hammer:

[General A.A.Vlasov]

Ha-ha!

Soviet power supreme...Personally i think that all oligarchs should be put into prisons.

Very nice! I agree! :)


toastedmonkey...this damn oligarch was supporting (by BIG money) our right political opposition! This damn bastard deserved it!
But the official reason of his arrest is:
He didn't came to FSB to give an evidence about cleaning dirt money or "not paying taxes".

[toastedmonkey]

Thank you A.A.Vlasov

I wasnt sure where it stood in politics, down to poor media coverage :(

[Bastardo]

There is a fluctuation in the price of caviar? :unsure:

[Xprewatik RED]

It has nothing to do with the fact that he is a corrupt oligarch... you dont think Putin has his cronies?
Putin wants to be dictator, thus all these companies must obey him, Yukos didn't and Putin doesnt want any opposition.
He targets any stations that are not pro-putin just like he does with companies.

[Jesus Christ]

if im not mistaken, Putin was a spy for the KGB
i dont see it as a return to communism, though I wish it was
he is exercising absolute right and just wants people to recognize that
believe it or not, he is starved for attention, and for absolute power
he doesnt like to help to 40% of the population in poverty, so hell jail them
go figure

[Saint-Just]

Khodorkovsky was supporting the other central parties. I have heard that the KPRF (Communist Party of the Russian Federation) are the main opposition. They have 500,000 members. I read that in their coalition with other leftist parties they could get 30% of the vote in the next election, that seems an ambitious forceast, however they have many members and have been growing very rapidly in the last few years.

[General A.A.Vlasov]

Left parties willn't unite with pro-oligarchic KPRF!!!

Putin wants to be dictator - bullshit.

[Saint-Just]

Originally posted by General [email protected] 4 2003, 10:45 AM
Left parties willn't unite with pro-oligarchic KPRF!!!

Putin wants to be dictator - bullshit.
I agree on putin. But I thought around 10 leftist parties will unite with KPRF, even though their views are somewhat different. A Russian on ISF told me that it is only the VKPB who will not, and he suspects that may be because they are a KGB front to divide the left. Would the National Bolsheviks join the KPRF? I wouldn't think it unlikely apart from NB talk is more fighting talk than compromise.

[Urban Rubble]

Would the National Bolsheviks join the KPRF? I wouldn't think it unlikely apart from NB talk is more fighting talk than compromise.

A better question, why would those pseudo communists be allowed to join ?

[Saint-Just]

To join so that more of the vote could be won. Actually, as you have cited, they would likely not be able to join since none of the other leftist parties would want to stand in coalition with them. The KPRF could also be called pseudo-communist though.

I think the Russian Communist Workers' Party (RCWP) and the All-Union Bolshevik Party (VKPB) are the most progressive, but VKPB do not stand with KPRF. RCWP will stand in the leftist bloc with the KPRF.

I think the National Bolsheviks stand inside some kind of radical bloc:

Liminov (NB leader):
'On October 2, 1997, we, above-mentioned, have had united our political forces and announced creation of an Electoral Bloc of Radicals'

'Radical Bloc will receive well over five percent of votes. In 1995's elections Anpilov alone almost acquired that goal-he harvested 4.86%. Today's political situation is much more profitable for Radicals.'

Anpilov is head of the Communist Working Russia movement. Apparently he is an old-style hard-core communist, his party is made up of many pensioners. NB has a lot of young people in it, so does the KPRF. Apparently the KPRF are very close with the government now, maybe it is like 'transformismo', the old italian idea of absorbing your opponents, that does not bode well for the leftist movement in Russia.

[postmarkxmyxcompass]

it's funny how little time it took for them to go from communism to white collar crime. capitalism really is wonderful. :rolleyes: