Rick Perry's latest policy proposal-invade mexico!

[Sinister Cultural Marxist]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-15140560


Rick Perry suggests US military role in Mexico drug war

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/55772000/jpg/_55772589_013055599-1.jpg Rick Perry says he wants closer cooperation with Mexico
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Texas Governor Rick Perry - who is seeking the Republican nomination for US president - has said he would consider sending American troops into Mexico to combat drug-related violence.
Mr Perry was speaking during a campaign appearance in New Hampshire.
"It may require our military in Mexico working in concert with them to kill these drug cartels and keep them off our border," he said.
Such a move would go far beyond current US involvement in Mexico's drugs war.
Governor Perry gave no further details of what sort of possible military intervention he would consider.
"I don't know all the different scenarios that would be out there," he said.
"But I think it is very important for us to work with them to keep that country from failing".
Sovereignty After the speech, the White House said it would continue its "historic level of cooperation with Mexico" to protect people on both sides of the border.
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/51695000/jpg/_51695977_72e1d0c1-cf52-4e79-a316-88c362c82259.jpg President Obama has backed Mexican President Felipe Calderon's campaign against the cartels
The Obama administration currently provides substantial material support to Mexican security forces, as well as close intelligence cooperation.
The US has also deployed National Guard troops to boost border security, and uses pilotless drone aircraft to gather intelligence inside Mexico.
Any deployment of US military forces on Mexican territory would almost certainly be unacceptable to the Mexican authorities.
Mexico lost around half its territory to the US after a war in the 1840s, and has since been very protective of its sovereignty.
The Mexican constitution also places strict limits on foreign intervention.
Mexican President Felipe Calderon has been pressing the US to do more to reduce demand for drugs among its citizens and to reduce the flow of weapons from the US to the cartels.
Correspondents say Mr Perry's comments may be aimed at showing he is tough on border security and illegal immigration - issues on which he has been attacked by other contenders for the Republican nomination.



:glare: the neoconservative approach to foreign policy at its most raw and uncensored ...

[¿Que?]

Political grandstanding. I mean, the guy is running for president, and apparently made an ass of himself in the debates. Maybe overcompensation?

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Its political grandstanding but Perry's speech does point to some trends. As capitalism regresses we will see greater militarization. That's about the only thing the US is good at these days.Besides, Perry's a Texan with the traditional paranoia of the Texan bourgeoisie towards Mexico.Presumably in the back of his mind he'd like to claim Sonora and Baja California as US states (that is when he's not contemplating Texan succession). The US hasn't officially annexed anything since 1898. I could see his "historic level of cooperation with Mexico" will be like that of the US and Pakistan.

Perry's use of the word "kill" is interesting.This is also a pissing contest with Obama. Barack got the two main Al Qaeda operatives, Perry is promising the Beltrán Leyva brothers or the leaders of Los Zetas.

If this wasn't tragic, which it truly is, it would be hysterically funny.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

I definitely don't think it's out of the question. See the U.S.'s role in the "Drug War" in Colombia in recent history.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Every day in the U.S is like a ultra-nationalistic pissing contest; whoever advocates for the most murder wins.

[piet11111]

What would actually be a good way to fight the cartels ?

Seeing the increasing violence against the population like the incident where a bag of human heads was delivered to a school to force them to pay protection money i am not very optimistic to seeing a non-violent solution to the cartels.

[Iron Felix]

There's an easier way! Stop selling guns to Mexican Drug Cartels, America, and they won't have anything to shoot anyone with! Problem solved.

Really, it's that simple.

[TxIndVoter]

He's even worse than that bit of craziness. Perry himself has ties to outright terrorists.


There's a book, Thank You Rick Perry: The End of Texas, that has this to say about him.

"A hard hitting expose of Rick Perry palling around with terrorists. The shocking story of the man who would be president supporting terrorists who tried to kill George W Bush and Bill Clinton, plotted to murder American soldiers, tried to murder Texas cops, kidnapped innocents, and extorted BILLIONS.

More than an expose, Thank You Rick Perry is also a work of alternate history showing how Perry's treason could have led to a shattered Texas. Militias would launch more campaigns of assassination and bombings. Loyal Americans would rise up against secession. Loyal patriots in the state, Mexican-Americans, Blacks, progressives, moderates, and non-treasonous conservatives would struggle to keep much of Texas in the USA, and would break away from Texas to form their own states.
A book for anyone asking the questions, "How could such an extremist as Perry be considered for president?"

[L.A.P.]

What would actually be a good way to fight the cartels ?

Seeing the increasing violence against the population like the incident where a bag of human heads was delivered to a school to force them to pay protection money i am not very optimistic to seeing a non-violent solution to the cartels.

Legalize drugs. Then have the workers take control of the means of production.

[agnixie]

Legalize drugs. Then have the workers take control of the means of production.

Yeah, basically.

Supporting a corrupt right wing nationalist who repressed popular revolutions in blood and worships Franco is not a good way :p

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

Legalize drugs. Then have the workers take control of the means of production.

The prior I imagine is probably less of a solution than one would be led to believe from how druggies like to proclaim it as the solution to everything. I imagine it would potentially infringe upon particular the weed-growing operations, but at the same time the criminal syndicates would try their best at maintaining their monopolies and control over the more difficultly produced substances, and even if this failed, as long as capitalism prevails they will be present, because criminal syndicates are and remain a natural part of the capitalist economy. It is perfectly possible for them to preserve their power and influence even with legalised drugs and them shifting focus away from the drug trade entirely; many criminal syndicates have most of their income come from legal and semi-legit operations anyway.

Workers control of the means of production would, however, be a big blow against all organised crime; as well as the general overthrow of capitalism and the abolition of currency and markets.

[Spetsnaz]

Let them invade all the countries of the world.


As Sun Tzu said, "They who try to do everything accomplish nothing." :p

[Lenina Rosenweg]

The drug cartels and concomitant social disintegration in parts of Mexico are a direct result of the corruption of the country's ruling class and US imposition of neo-liberalism on that country from Eccheveria to Calderon. The failure of the Mexican left, from the EZLN to the movements of 2006 to create a meaningful mass movement plays a part as well.After Calderon stole the last election it was predictable social disintergration would follow.

I agree with NHIA, no matter who is the next POTUS there is a good chance US forces will be in Mexico, overtly or covertly. That is the only way to cope with the disintegration of capitalism.

The US "war on drugs" is obviously a war against the poor. I certainly support legalization but I question whether this should be a main demand at this stage. I agree w/Takayuki, monopolies and legal cartels will rapidly step in and clean up.

Not to sound like a puritan, cause I'm definitely not, drugs literally do function as the "opium of the masses" in contemporary US society.People self-medicate themselves. I've been in work places where a quarter or so of my co-workers regularly came in drunk or high.This is understandable, I've done this myself, but its difficult to organize in this situation and drugs do promote a narcissistic personality.In a better world people should be free to do whatever they want to their bodies and minds, but we're not at that stage yet.

[Lucretia]

Could we please stop starting threads detailing ever little odious thing about whatever some GOP presidential candidate has to say? This is happening so frequently now that the forum is beginning to resemble a Rachel Maddow show. ("Look at how batshit insane those Republicans over there are! Thank God we have Obama to vote for!")

[Red Commissar]

Hopefully this'll be as disastrous for the states as the time they chased after ol' Pancho Villa.

This is Perry in his zone. Combine the aspects of 'tough on crime' and aggressive foreign policy and that gets his constituents hopping around for joy. This wouldn't be unprecedented though, considering the US's actions in Colombia as they are like NHIA pointed out.

Perry as governor before he went on the trail often talked a lot about the 'spillover' violence from the drug wars, getting the proportion of it blown out of proportion to push his views on border control. The same issue seems to sell with those pushing for stricter border controls so he's probably aiming for that too.

[molotovcocktail]

It isnt so weird when you think on the amount of bullshit the GOP candidates are saying.