If you want to feel angry, watch this

[Nox]

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Note the guy at the end with the Anarcho-Communist flag!

[Smyg]

Thank you for the offer, but I've been in a constant rage since the 19th of September last year.

[The Jay]

Normally, I'm a live and let live kind of person, but this makes me want to do things . . .

[Susurrus]

Why did nobody throw anything?

[Nox]

Why did nobody throw anything?

Throw anything? Pffff...

Why did nobody draw a gun and shoot those motherfuckers?

[Smyg]

No need for guns, petrol + bottle + rag would have been more than sufficient. :rolleyes:

[Nox]

No need for guns, petrol + bottle + rag would have been more than sufficient. :rolleyes:

It's "may the streets run red with the blood of the bourgeoisie", not "may the streets run black with the burnt skin of the bourgeoisie" :laugh:
Most of the people there have nothing to lose, why don't they just fucking blow the heads off of a few police chiefs and bankers?

[Leonid Brozhnev]

We don't need to waste bullets on them comrade when there's plenty of tall buildings about :lol:

[MattShizzle]

Be nice if someone would have switched the champagne with drano mixed with champagne in a bottle...

[La Comédie Noire]

That's the best in real life trolling I've ever seen. :lol:

[ВАЛТЕР]

"Let them eat cake." comes to mind...

[Nox]

That's the best in real life trolling I've ever seen. :lol:

u mad, proletariat? here, have some champagne, oh wait u cant afford it trollface.jpg

[Hexen]

This is video footage of capitalist behavior.

[Martin Blank]

This should tell you everything about the "Occupy Wall Street" movement you need to know: NOT A THREAT.

[Os Cangaceiros]

lol, I love the expressions on their faces: "haha, look at these hippies!" :lol:

No one was laughing on Wall Street when Mario Buda was around, though! (Not that I really approve of such things as an effective tactic, even if violence was visited upon these people, it might make people feel better, but it wouldn't really change all that much.)

[Susurrus]

Reason #1 to always bring bricks and stones to a rally.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Saw this picture online somewhere, thought it was cool...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297800_163209300432207_100002294145240_313992_1232 613797_n.jpg

[scarletghoul]

It's "may the streets run red with the blood of the bourgeoisie", not "may the streets run black with the burnt skin of the bourgeoisie" :laugh:
Most of the people there have nothing to lose, why don't they just fucking blow the heads off of a few police chiefs and bankers?
forgive me if i'm wrong but the impression that i get is that most of the poeple protesting are from middle class liberal backgrounds, so they do have something to lose. thats why theyre not rioting, even in the face of police brutality. its also the reason you see liberal buzzwords like 'corporations' etc on signs ..

[Os Cangaceiros]

re: crowd picture

^that's the result of word getting out in Williamsburg and Greenwich Village that Radiohead was gonna play. :lol:

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

No need for guns, petrol + bottle + rag would have been more than sufficient. :rolleyes:

That or soda can + gunpowder + ductape + wic.

I don't think the bourgeois will take anyone seriously unless real, violent action is taken. The video says it all.

[RadioRaheem84]

I did not see any bankers or state officials mock protesters in Greece or France whenever there were serious protests.

Yet, our bankers literally take a lunch break on their balcony and sip Cristal Brut while mocking the people protesting them.

I am really not trying to say that French and Greek protesters are better but I am just trying to point out the obvious difference in our working class relation to the ruling class.

Ours hold considerably way more power and think that there is not a chance in hell that any protest will be effective enough to move the government to change policy.

In the Arab Middle East it removed power, in Israel it got their Prime Minister to address attention to it, in Greece it got the State to literally strike back, in France Sarkozy hesitated for a minute before he pressed on and national attention was placed on the strikes.

In the States, our ruling class drinks wine and mocks us IN FRONT OF OUR FACE TOO.

[Bardo]

In the States, our ruling class drinks wine and mocks us IN FRONT OF OUR FACE TOO.

Yeah, we might as well nip this in the bud.

[KurtFF8]

This should tell you everything about the "Occupy Wall Street" movement you need to know: NOT A THREAT.

I believe that video was from one of the first days (maybe even the first day) which was Sept 17th. It's not October 2nd, and yesterday over 700 protesters were arrested and part of the BK bridge was blocked for hours.

I don't know if your assessment is as accurate anymore (not exactly saying it's wrong though)

[bcbm]

some of y'all have some sick fantasies

[Yuppie Grinder]

some of y'all have some sick fantasies
whateva, ima throw bottles and shit at bougie scum

[MustCrushCapitalism]

It disappoints me so much that I couldn't go to this... despite living only 100 or so miles away, I can't afford the damn trip. :P In a year or two though... hopefully we'll have some more action by then.

[Impulse97]

That or soda can + gunpowder + ductape + wic.

I don't think the bourgeois will take anyone seriously unless real, violent action is taken. The video says it all.


Your right, but you have to start small and peaceful like this. If a small band of people just started rampaging they'd get nowhere. The media and those who are ignorant of the cause of the protesters rage will dismiss them as common criminals the same way the London Rioters where. Rioting only works when you have mass support. Enough support that is, that you have the numbers to sustain the movement after repeated police action and to have popular support so when the police do crack down on violent action the protesters cannot be simply dismissed as thuggish fringe group.

There's strength in numbers as they say.


If you really want to understand this situation better read Luxembourg's Mass Strike. It's an easy read and does an excellent job of laying out what material and economic conditions that need to be present. You can't make mass strike/protest, certain factors need to be present in order for it to start and sustain itself. Those clearly where not present in Madison, and I don't think they are for OWS, just quite yet. Although, each of these actions is a building block for something bigger and more radical. You have to learn to walk before you can run. Or, in the case of the US prole, you need to learn how to crawl before you can walk, let alone run.

[ComradeOmar]

It's "may the streets run red with the blood of the bourgeoisie", not "may the streets run black with the burnt skin of the bourgeoisie" :laugh:
Most of the people there have nothing to lose, why don't they just fucking blow the heads off of a few police chiefs and bankers?
Why the fuk else? These people have families they need to feed. Also what difference will it make to the working class to shoot a rich banker?

[Rusty Shackleford]

some of y'all have some sick fantasies
own your rage. :lol:

[Rafiq]

Can some of you now see where I am coming from with my Anti-Non violence statements?

Do some of you actually think that non violence is going to work against these scum bags? They must be crushed politically.

So many years now we see these 'Post Modern" fukoyama Leftists thinking that they are going to make changes by marching about the streets shouting liberal populist slogans. It will not work. It is time to completely re-think our strategies if we are ever to see the revival of a revolutionary movement.

[Rafiq]

Saw this picture online somewhere, thought it was cool...

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297800_163209300432207_100002294145240_313992_1232 613797_n.jpg

That's pretty scary.

[Rusty Shackleford]

So many years now we see these 'Post Modern" fukoyama Leftists thinking that they are going to make changes by marching about the streets shouting liberal populist slogans. It will not work. It is time to completely re-think our strategies if we are ever to see the revival of a revolutionary movement.
an excellent argument against those that just want to make new manifestos and try to come up with some new grand revolutionary theory.



there are already organizational methods that are proven, and ideologies that exist. history has been had and we have the hindsight to correct mistakes. now, stop trying to theorize and fight!

[Rafiq]

Edited for security reasons.

-Rafiq

[Susurrus]

an excellent argument against those that just want to make new manifestos and try to come up with some new grand revolutionary theory.



there are already organizational methods that are proven, and ideologies that exist. history has been had and we have the hindsight to correct mistakes. now, stop trying to theorize and fight!

It's not time to fight yet, there are not enough of us. For now, we must organize, help those in need and those oppressed, and spread the word. Once the people are with us, the enemy shall make the first blow.

[Rusty Shackleford]

by fight back i mean all of that. any form of struggle against the rule of capital is revolutionary and considered "fighting." class struggle takes on many forms.

[#FF0000]

Can some of you now see where I am coming from with my Anti-Non violence statements?

i think people disagree with you more because you are like an angry baby 24/7 and not because of what you say

[Rafiq]

i think people disagree with you more because you are like an angry baby 24/7 and not because of what you say

I've only been angry once, and that is the thread where Kapitalyist said Marx laid down the foundations of fairy tale socialism, which made me rage inside.

Perhaps I sound like angry to some people, but that is not grounds for jumping to assumptions.

Sure, I've been really in a pissy mood lately but that has fuck all to do with Rev Left or anyone on this site.

[#FF0000]

fair nuff. i've definitely been there

[Lobotomy]

Even if violence does come into play later down the road in the struggle for liberation, there's no point in talking about it now on a public forum where it could potentially be used against us when the left becomes relevant.

[Ocean Seal]

Why did nobody throw anything?
Because its pretty high up. :D

An interesting thought perhaps. Right wing populism has become a focus of these protests, even in the video, it said watch an inspirational speech called end the fed. I was out in the protests today and I saw some elementary class conscious elements present. We cannot continue to miss opportunity after opportunity. Get out there leftists. Get people informed. Steer them away from the Tea Party, make sure that we shut up the vocal minority that is the Paulites.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Because its pretty high up. :D

An interesting thought perhaps. Right wing populism has become a focus of these protests, even in the video, it said watch an inspirational speech called end the fed. I was out in the protests today and I saw some elementary class conscious elements present. We cannot continue to miss opportunity after opportunity. Get out there leftists. Get people informed. Steer them away from the Tea Party, make sure that we shut up the vocal minority that is the Paulites.
And thats why me and my comrades are bringing red flags to Occupy Sac.


troll the shit out of Randroids and Paulites.

[black magick hustla]

i think the point is not being anti violence but that some motherfuckers here are mentally ill and utterly disturbed.

[Rusty Shackleford]

i would just like to say for the records that red flags were not unfurled by Sac PSL at Occupy Sac. We had a lot of shit to do and plus, gas is a bit expensive to go back and forth.