look @ this Pro-Capitalist Propaganda

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http://www.zambia.co.zm/morality.htm

saying capitalism is moral.. wow.. this argument is out there.. what do you think?

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"Welfare programs are all immoral, even if they look noble. As humans, we all do feel sympathy for those less privileged and those less able-bodied. But this does not make it right for anyone to take our money or our property to help those people. It gets difficult to explain the moral logic of capitalism when one discusses such things because it looks very cruel to oppose such noble assistance. But it is easy to understand when one keeps in mind the example of a car thief who robs people in order to look after his family. Would you allow a thief to steal your money if he says that he needs it to look after his blind grandmother? No. Then why do you have no problem with the government taking your money to give it to the blind or the poor and so on?"

SMH

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"I am not a farmer and I will never be one. Why should my money go to supporting my friend (or enemy) who is a farmer? What about me? Why can’t the government give me money for my business? Why can’t they give money to car dealers and shoe cleaners and every other person involved in some business activity? Why should our money go to support the farmers?"

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"Wrong. Socialism justifies its injustices by appealing to our human sense of sympathy. Always keep the car thief example in mind. Would it be right for a car thief to take your car just because he needs money to buy drugs for his wife? No. It is wrong. There is nothing that justifies theft. We are sorry that his wife is dying but this does not justify theft."

[Guest1]

what complete bullshit!

[Non-Sectarian Bastard!]

A typical capitalist propaganda piece. A hard cover, but nothing under it.

[marxstudent]

Yeah it sucks, but who can really blame them? Everyone uses propaganda- communists are all about propaganda too.

[Don't Change Your Name]

This is pure propaganda:


"It is of course easy for people to see that it is wrong and immoral for one to steal another person’s property. This is just common sense. What is difficult for most people to see is when there is an alleged good motive for that theft. The story of Robin Hood demonstrates this idea. Everyone who read Robin Hood believed that he was right to rob the rich because he was doing it for a good purpose. But that’s like saying a thief who steals your car in order to find money to keep his children in school should be forgiven and encouraged. No, capitalism does not believe that anyone should be given the right to steal someone else’s property or to use it without their permission, no matter how good their intentions are. Theft is inherently immoral and it is wrong."

Here we find the contradictions of capitalism. In first place, they say that "most people" believe capitalism is immoral. So by this they show their paranoia and if even if they were right on that most people dont like capitalist morality, the whole world would be socialist. Their advertisings and promises of wealth and liberty make people's interests crash creating conflicts that will then bring fascism as a consequence, to reinstall the capitalist order. And they said capitalism represented liberty and democracy...
And believing that the people Robin Hood stole actually won that money is stupid. They were the thieves! Wasnt it that cappies wanted people to gain their lives by working for their boss? Plus, the bit that says "But that’s like saying a thief who steals your car in order to find money to keep his children in school should be forgiven and encouraged." is stupid. How can people progress by working and gaining money and then having the wealth they deserve if they are not educated? Another contradiction.

[Al Creed]

I Agree, What bullshit that piece was!

Welfare is immoral? Yeah, and Im Charlemagne

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But this is getting out to people, see this is from a big zambian website from what my comrade tells me.. we have no info coming from our side getting in to the hands of so many, unless there's some im un aware of..

and honestly, from a leftist standpoint i think we just need to display the facts, no even become slanderous and overtly propagandists

[BuyOurEverything]

Capitalists are against nationalisation of private property, because it is just theft by government. Even if it is true that the government represents all the people of the country, it is still wrong for them to do it. It is just as wrong as it would be for the government to kill you just because they are representing the people. A government is not immune from following the rules of morality – the rules of common sense.

Wow, so true capitalists oppose the death penalty? Quick, somebody call the Republican Party!

[RED CHARO]

These are words all people who are right wing voters say........ It doesn't supprise me!

[Desert Fox]

Every propaganda used these days is full of lies. And the capitalists believe them since they believe in their political ideology. I don't find it hard to understand that many people will believe this, since that the rightish believe strong in their ideology. But anyway I disagree with their propaganda and didn't bother to read it to the end, since the first 10 lines said enough ;)

[Funky Monk]

Lol, again they are criticising Robin Hood. Apparently the books were burned during the McCarthyite period.



Kinda makes me want to read the classics again.

[Al Creed]

Hold up...They Burned Robin Hood during Joesph McCarthy's reign of Terror?

I learn something new every day

[Funky Monk]

Dont think it was strictly McCarthy but book burners jumped on the bandwagon and didnt like the communist undertones (overtones?) in Robin Hood

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Funky [email protected] 4 2003, 08:28 PM
Dont think it was strictly McCarthy but book burners jumped on the bandwagon and didnt like the communist undertones (overtones?) in Robin Hood
Never thought about robin hood that way. But isn't burning robin hood books a bit extreme since the public is small children and I doubt that tale will make up their political choice. But anyway I didn't knew that either, thanx for the info ;)

[BuyOurEverything]

Never thought about robin hood that way. But isn't burning robin hood books a bit extreme since the public is small children and I doubt that tale will make up their political choice.

It lays the evil seeds of communism in our precious children's minds.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 07:44 PM

Never thought about robin hood that way. But isn't burning robin hood books a bit extreme since the public is small children and I doubt that tale will make up their political choice.

It lays the evil seeds of communism in our precious children's minds.
LOL, before you know it, they will ban the lion king of disney from the streets since children would learn there to revolt against the authority :P

[BuyOurEverything]

LOL, before you know it, they will ban the lion king of disney from the streets since children would learn there to revolt against the authority

I wouldn't doubt it.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 5 2003, 08:07 PM

LOL, before you know it, they will ban the lion king of disney from the streets since children would learn there to revolt against the authority

I wouldn't doubt it.
LOL, well normally they would have to ban every disney movie since most of them are anti-capitalism. But they can't since that disney is part of the bourgeois and the goverment is there silly puppet :D

[BuyOurEverything]

LOL, well normally they would have to ban every disney movie since most of them are anti-capitalism. But they can't since that disney is part of the bourgeois and the goverment is there silly puppet

Haha, exactly, it's a catch-22. I'm not sure I agree with you about most Disney movies being communist though.