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Kornilios Sunshine
30th September 2011, 17:53
OK,Knowing that China has a pseudo-communist goverment I would like to ask a question about its products.

China is known to be a country which makes the best "large" things(Trains,Aircrafts or whatever).On the other side, there are some products(e.g. USB TV Tuners,Capture cards etc.) which are imitations from other authentic products which are(imitations)being usually reffered as "Fake" or "Low Quality and not working product".

Can anyone explain to me how and why does this happen?

Thanks.:D:cool:

Nox
30th September 2011, 17:58
Well, the people who make the products don't give a shit about quality/durability, they just want profits. In fact, it's better for them if their products break easily so that people will buy another one to replace it.

As for the big things, I wasn't aware that China makes the best trains or aircraft. Do they really?

Kornilios Sunshine
30th September 2011, 22:00
Well, the people who make the products don't give a shit about quality/durability, they just want profits. In fact, it's better for them if their products break easily so that people will buy another one to replace it.

As for the big things, I wasn't aware that China makes the best trains or aircraft. Do they really?
Thanks for your answer.Well I don't really know for aircrafts but they sure make very good trains.I might talk bullshit but I don't know.
Now that we've mentionted China,check what a Chinese worker which suffers from the capitalist goverment do for a few cents a day.
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Look at the speed he is preparing the cards' box.

TheWhiteStreak
1st October 2011, 06:02
Haha, I wouldn't say their aircrafts are the best. A while back I was reading an article about pilots who had to fly under pressure. Most of the planes in the article that had serious problems were from China. It even talked about how one airport in China was fixing planes using duct tape :laugh: But I do have to admit that their trains are pretty impressive lol.

Nox
1st October 2011, 12:26
Haha, I wouldn't say their aircrafts are the best. A while back I was reading an article about pilots who had to fly under pressure. Most of the planes in the article that had serious problems were from China. It even talked about how one airport in China was fixing planes using duct tape :laugh: But I do have to admit that their trains are pretty impressive lol.

It's probably because the trains/railways are built by the government.

Revolutionair
1st October 2011, 12:39
OK,Knowing that China has a pseudo-communist goverment

You lost me there.

DarkPast
1st October 2011, 12:47
You lost me there.

Nah, he's quite correct. The prefix pseudo marks something as false, fraudulent, or pretending to be something it is not.

EDIT: Oh, and about the trains - They did use to say "Mussolini made the trains run on time".

piet11111
1st October 2011, 13:56
Allot of company's make their products with various quality scales and prices them accordingly.

Its just that China is a cheap labor country and as such it tends to attract the shoddy quality manufacturers as the cheapest place to manufacture.
It's not because its made in china but because they have to produce stuff at very low quality standards because if they made better stuff then the capitalists would not make as much money by the sale of replacements.


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khad
1st October 2011, 16:16
It even talked about how one airport in China was fixing planes using duct tape :laugh:
People who think that aviation repairs are done with duct tape are idiots. Your plane wouldn't fly if it were duct tape. The patch job would simply freeze off at altitude, among other things.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/Passengers-surprised-to-see-tape-patching-planes-91567634.html


High speed tape is made of aluminum, and has a stronger adhesive than duct tape. It's a lot more expensive, too. A half-inch wide, 60-yard roll retails for $38.95 from Aviall.

Aviation consultant Denny Kelly says airlines use it regularly. "I would be surprised if today — right now — if there's not an airplane on every airline in the United States that's not flying around with some of this stuff on it," he said.Speed tape is also regularly used to repair small arms damage to helicopter rotor blades, so quit your whining.