Reactionary Chatter XXX - Heavy Petting

[RedAnarchist]

(Another admin can change the title if they have a better one, which they probably will).

[Agent Ducky]

Second! or... first, if you don't count the OP. :D

[ComradeMan]

First- Ducky claimed second!!! :D

[RedAnarchist]

First- Ducky claimed second!!! :D

Only if the OP doesn't count.:p

[PhoenixAsh]

YES....the one I have been waiting for....

Naugthy ey? Well...here goes:

Shaved:

http://www.grrr.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/catshaved.jpg

Twins:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/spinach-gunk/sphynx-cat-6.jpg

Interracial:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llpvisknz51qiuuuqo1_500.jpg

Teen:
http://touchdown-advertising.com/attachment/img/naked_cat.jpg

Bondage:
http://www.fuquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hairless-Cat.jpg

and...well...this is just plain disturbing :scared:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zx740v7y8ic/SqhxHLLjQsI/AAAAAAAADV0/qlmPub92ODM/s400/hairless+pussy.jpg

[thefinalmarch]

So this is like chit-chat with rep, huh? That's pretty cool.

and...well...this is just plain disturbing :scared:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zx740v7y8ic/SqhxHLLjQsI/AAAAAAAADV0/qlmPub92ODM/s400/hairless+pussy.jpg
Where did you get that picture of my nutsack?

[ComradeMan]

Only if the OP doesn't count.:p

Schmuck! :glare:

:D

[ComradeMan]

YES....the one I have been waiting for....

Naugthy ey? Well...here goes:

Fuck those mutant cats, they are an abomination before catdom in my opinion.... poor cats.

[Sasha]

the naughty one! well cant have this one not on the firstpage if you know what i mean, wink wink nudge nudge say no more: jT3_UCm1A5I

[Sasha]

YES....the one I have been waiting for....

Naugthy ey? Well...here goes:

Shaved:

http://www.grrr.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/catshaved.jpg

Twins:
http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab265/spinach-gunk/sphynx-cat-6.jpg

Interracial:
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llpvisknz51qiuuuqo1_500.jpg

Teen:
http://touchdown-advertising.com/attachment/img/naked_cat.jpg

Bondage:
http://www.fuquestions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hairless-Cat.jpg

and...well...this is just plain disturbing :scared:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zx740v7y8ic/SqhxHLLjQsI/AAAAAAAADV0/qlmPub92ODM/s400/hairless+pussy.jpg


i think you will enjoy this site: http://barelyferal.tumblr.com/ ;)

[Le Rouge]

Here's the mighty thread. Now when i'll go on revleft at school, people will think communism = XXX. Thank you Revleft.

[Sasha]

but even for cats No means No folks:

oKI-tD0L18A

[PhoenixAsh]

Here's the mighty thread. Now when i'll go on revleft at school, people will think communism = XXX. Thank you Revleft.


Maybe now they get interested ;)

"RevLeft: creating class consciousness through nude kitten pics"

:)

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Here's the mighty thread. Now when i'll go on revleft at school, people will think communism = XXX. Thank you Revleft.

Well,there is a ton of porn so it makes sense....assuming the definition of porn is "I'm right you're wrong" and "No,you're a counterrevolutionary!" Ah,gets my tendency muscle excited every-time.

[#FF0000]

1) this week in baseball has p. much made a fanatic out of me
2) my baby cousin is the cutest baby in the world.

[¿Que?]

Am I on the first page? Anywho, I just wanted to say I like the new title.

[Agent Ducky]

First- Ducky claimed second!!! :D
First is the worst, second is the best.
But technically I claimed first and second. That's capitalist though, moar than my share. But I'm giving you second because I'm a good communist who shares plus that's how the order of things are.

Only if the OP doesn't count.:p
Yeah, I compensated for both.

[#FF0000]

i just realized my ex girlfriend is a dead ringer for Emily Haines from Metric.

[Lobotomy]

First is the worst, second is the best.

third's the turd

[Revolution starts with U]

Reactionary Chatter: Heavy Petting. Last poster: Vaginal Knives.
... Heavy petting, vaginal knives




.... ouch :crying:

[PhoenixAsh]

Going to a squat demo...Pigs are out in force I hear and have issued a zero tolerance ruling. They have already threatened to use any "appropriate" force necessary to enforce the ruling of the mayor.

So

... .if you do not hear from me again: AVENGE ME!!!

:)

[CommieTroll]

It's finally the dirty one :laugh:

[Bud Struggle]

Going to a squat demo...Pigs are out in force I hear and have issued a zero tolerance ruling. They have already threatened to use any "appropriate" force necessary to enforce the ruling of the mayor.

So

... .if you do not hear from me again: AVENGE ME!!!

:)

Where exactly are you going, again? I guess it was on the last page. :(

Squat demo? Is this a sexual fetish thing in content?

:D

[Ocean Seal]

Am I on the first page? Anywho, I just wanted to say I like the new title.
It should have been more xxxplicitly sexual.

[PhoenixAsh]

Excessive police violence. 7 minutes into demo. Beaten several times. Horses charged us....stood on my foot. Almost got arrested but got pulled back. Report will follow.

[PhoenixAsh]

Ok so far...3 dislocated vertibrae. 2 in back and 1 in neck. Neck is stiff and hurts. Bruised rib. Foot hurts like hell but isn't broken. Kneecap is inflamated. Very little bruises so far...remarkable.

[Ocean Seal]

Ok so far...3 dislocated vertibrae. 2 in back and 1 in neck. Neck is stiff and hurts. Bruised rib. Foot hurts like hell but isn't broken. Kneecap is inflamated. Very little bruises so far...remarkable.
3 dislocated vertebrae. Are you at the hospital right now? Good luck and solidarity comrade.

[#FF0000]

Ok so far...3 dislocated vertibrae. 2 in back and 1 in neck. Neck is stiff and hurts. Bruised rib. Foot hurts like hell but isn't broken. Kneecap is inflamated. Very little bruises so far...remarkable.

nah not remarkable you just take batons and horse charges like a g

but yeah still get to a hospital jesus christ

[Revolution starts with U]

Jesus Christ doesn't NEED hospitals!

[xub3rn00dlex]

Hindsight has 3 dislocated vertebrae... I wonder what poor shape those cops are in... We <3 You Hindsight! :D

[Sasha]

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[PhoenixAsh]

nah not remarkable you just take batons and horse charges like a g

but yeah still get to a hospital jesus christ

THe girl next to me took a punch directly in the face from one of the arrest teams and went out for a while. There was another one trampled by a horse and she broke a foot. One had several bruises to her arms and face. Another one had to be moved by ambulance on a stretcher. A guy had a broken nose. Several people had bleading head wouds. ONe guy (at least) had a concusion which made him throw up. Several people were severely bruised and battered.

At least one cop got injured when somebody :) ellebowed him in the fucking face when he punched him in the stomache and tried to drag him out of the demo :) That very same person also kneed hiim in the groin...but he was wearing a cup...so ouch. :( All the while offcourse yelling: not resisting, non violent :D

[PhoenixAsh]

link to report about the demo + vids and pics.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/police-violence-squat-t161984/index.html?p=2248669#post2248669

[PhoenixAsh]

http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-pictures-streakin-yeah-baby-take-it-all-in.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Well I hope you are all well, but what exactly is the point ofr the squat?

[PhoenixAsh]

Squatting is a protest against the lack of affordable housing and the purposeful speculation on housing prices by leaving buildings empty while there is a shortage of living area's with the intend to create a shortage to create a rise in price. It is also a protest against the increasing focus by housing corporations in building expensive houses instead of also providing houses for people with less money while at the same time tearing down social housing and cheap housing project to build more expensive houses and bussinesses.

In squats alternative living styles based on solidarity and mutual aid are organised based on a non-capitalist basis. So they organise cultural events, affordable parties, music evenings, creative evenings...they organise give away markets where people give away their unused stuff to others how might need it...they organise cheap food initiatives.

Squatters want more affordable housing and means in which alternative lifestyles can live.


On 1 oktober 2010 they made a law which prohibits all squatting. This is however against the constitution and international law according to the Supreme Court. Yet they still maintain the law.

Yesterday we protested against this an tried to get attention for the fact that the government does nothing to create affordable housing for the increasing number of poor people in Holland.

[PhoenixAsh]

Well...this...this is just awkward:



http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_7DOLrq-pK4s/TMESozDB-OI/AAAAAAAABaY/byxI1Nn9-CA/s1600/very-naughty-animals04.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Squatting is a protest against the lack of affordable housing and the purposeful speculation on housing prices by leaving buildings empty while there is a shortage of living area's with the intend to create a shortage to create a rise in price. It is also a protest against the increasing focus by housing corporations in building expensive houses instead of also providing houses for people with less money while at the same time tearing down social housing and cheap housing project to build more expensive houses and bussinesses.

In squats alternative living styles based on solidarity and mutual aid are organised based on a non-capitalist basis. So they organise cultural events, affordable parties, music evenings, creative evenings...they organise give away markets where people give away their unused stuff to others how might need it...they organise cheap food initiatives.

This is more a problem of government than of property owners. If housing prices were allowed to flucuate according to market then there would be no need to warehouse apartments. When the government (and I don't know if the government does this in Holland) fixes prices for rents through stabilization or rent control--it is often more beneficial for the property owners to warehouse.

Also, low income renting is often for the land lords. Often the credit of low income people isn't all that good and there is the bother of collecting rent and of eviction. (Not that higher income places don't have that problem, too.)

Another problem is that there are just some areas (always the more desirable) that poor people just can't afford to live in. And there isn't much one could do about that. In the end poor people are in a bind.

[PhoenixAsh]

This is more a problem of government than of property owners. If housing prices were allowed to flucuate according to market then there would be no need to warehouse apartments. When the government (and I don't know if the government does this in Holland) fixes prices for rents through stabilization or rent control--it is often more beneficial for the property owners to warehouse.

Fixed rent is better than the ever increasing 4% rent every six months we have on the free housing markets....and that is even with the government capping it at a 4% maximum increase per term.

What property owners do is leave buildings (not only warehouses but homes; flats etc too) empty for years. This increases the demand and pushes up the price on their other properties.

No free market has ever created affordable housing...ever. Why? Because if markets are free then corporations do not build enough houses in order to maximise profit. This has been going on for decades now in Holland.



Also, low income renting is often for the land lords. Often the credit of low income people isn't all that good and there is the bother of collecting rent and of eviction. (Not that higher income places don't have that problem, too.)

What do you suggest these people do then? this simply means taht the system fails completely in providing people with jobs, income and affordable housing. Rent is often too high and so called "affordable" housing is not affordable at all. The problems with evictions because people can not pay the rent illustrates beautifully why we do not need more capitalism in the housing market but less.



Another problem is that there are just some areas (always the more desirable) that poor people just can't afford to live in. And there isn't much one could do about that. In the end poor people are in a bind.

There is a huge amount of what you can do about it. One such thing is to take away the building rights to create exclusively high priced housing in zones and take away private property and ownership and exploitation of housing.

Note that squatters do not want to live in popular and high demand zones. They want affordable housing period.

[Robert]

So they organise cultural events, affordable parties, music evenings, creative evenings...they organise give away markets where people give away their unused stuff to others how might need it


Ever noticed that everyone likes the Dutch? I don't know if it's the gouda cheese, the Heineken, the wood shoes, the windmills, the rosy-cheeked girls in the figurines, the legal marijuana, the dykes (the ones that contain the sea, I mean), the Dutch chocolate, the "music evenings," or the bilingualism.

The Germans are this, the French are that, the Irish are most certainly ... Irish, but ...

everyone likes the Dutch.

[Bud Struggle]

Fixed rent is better than the ever increasing 4% rent every six months we have on the free housing markets....and that is even with the government capping it at a 4% maximum increase per term. That's the problem. The cost of housing isn't the government's business. The housing costs are what the market could bear. It would be better if the government didn't get involved in privare markets (like housing.)


What property owners do is leave buildings (not only warehouses but homes; flats etc too) empty for years. This increases the demand and pushes up the price on their other properties. Yea, but it is THEIR property to do with as they wish. People have no rights over other people's pivate property.


No free market has ever created affordable housing...ever. Why? Because if markets are free then corporations do not build enough houses in order to maximise profit. This has been going on for decades now in Holland. Listen, builders wouldn't be building high income properties is there wasn't a demand for it. Obviously there is a fair amount of well off people in the Neatherlands that can afford those kinds of places.


What do you suggest these people do then? this simply means taht the system fails completely in providing people with jobs, income and affordable housing. Rent is often too high and so called "affordable" housing is not affordable at all. The problems with evictions because people can not pay the rent illustrates beautifully why we do not need more capitalism in the housing market but less. [/quoe] No you need less fixed rents and MORE Capitalism. You need the government out of the rent business alltogether. When they get involved property owners can't rent properties and still make money--so they warehouse.

[quote]There is a huge amount of what you can do about it. One such thing is to take away the building rights to create exclusively high priced housing in zones and take away private property and ownership and exploitation of housing. I disagree there. Private property is private property. People whould be allowed to do whatever they want with what they own.


Note that squatters do not want to live in popular and high demand zones. They want affordable housing period. Then get the government out of the housing market and let the market do its job.

[Robert]

I will go to Holland, get me a big chunk of gouda cheese, some ice-cold Heineken, a bag of whack-o tobacc-o, some rollin' paper and matches, some comfortable wood shoes, and just squat. I ain't leavin' either.

I'll let my pal hindsight20/20 fight off the cops and horses when they come for me.

Sounds pretty good, doesn't it?

We cappies know how to live.

[Sasha]

Ever noticed that everyone likes the Dutch? I don't know if it's the gouda cheese, the Heineken, the wood shoes, the windmills, the rosy-cheeked girls in the figurines, the legal marijuana, the dykes (the ones that contain the sea, I mean), the Dutch chocolate, the "music evenings," or the bilingualism.

The Germans are this, the French are that, the Irish are most certainly ... Irish, but ...

everyone likes the Dutch.


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[Sasha]

That's the problem. The cost of housing isn't the government's business. The housing costs are what the market could bear. It would be better if the government didn't get involved in privare markets (like housing.)

Yea, but it is THEIR property to do with as they wish. People have no rights over other people's pivate property.


Listen, builders wouldn't be building high income properties is there wasn't a demand for it. Obviously there is a fair amount of well off people in the Neatherlands that can afford those kinds of places.

No you need less fixed rents and MORE Capitalism. You need the government out of the rent business alltogether. When they get involved property owners can't rent properties and still make money--so they warehouse.

I disagree there. Private property is private property. People whould be allowed to do whatever they want with what they own.

Then get the government out of the housing market and let the market do its job.

nope, over here its far more profitable to build luxury offices blocks in the middle of nowhere that 100% guaranteed never will be used and speculate with the mortgage money they than can get based on their theoretical value than building rent housing, in an densely populated small country as the netherlands this is simply unacceptable.
what if it was more profitable to export all the food produced in the US to china than to sell it domestically?
surely you would demand that the government would intervene before you would starve.

there never been and there will never be a truly free market, humanity cant afford it.


further, 99% of the social housing in the netherlandsw was build unsubsidized on the backs of the proletariat who allowed the building cooperations to take an substantial part of their paycheck to build low income rent housing.
a few years ago the politicians stole these houses by transforming the cooperations into corporations over night. Because there is no room to build new houses (in desirable places) these houses are highly coveted and the corporations can make huge profits by selling of these workingclass houses, houses the corporations themselves often bought for literary one single guilder a piece.

finally, squatting in the netherlands doesnt challenge private property rights, its only challenges the right to do whatever you damn well please with it.
it ads an social responsibility to the equation, surely you agree with the fact that you are not allowed to dump your car anywhere in the middle of, lets say manhattan and just let it rust there. the government has to intervene and tow the car, its still your property (as long as you reclaim it fast enough), its just not allowed to waste this scarce space.
And admit it, if some asshole would let his car rot in your street while you never have an parkingspace i'm pretty sure you would first demand the state to tow it and if push came to shove you would get your neighbors together and do it yourself.
squatters argue not much different, its still your house but in scarcity the right to an roof over your head trumps the right to let your property stand empty (and everyone, from the dutch supreme court up to the UN human rights charter, agrees with that in fact) when the state refuses to force owners not to let their propperty stand empty (the towing of the car) we are going to do it our self.

[Bud Struggle]

nope, over here its far more profitable to build luxury offices blocks in the middle of nowhere that 100% guaranteed never will be used and speculate with the mortgage money they than can get based on their theoretical value than building rent housing, in an densely populated small country as the netherlands this is simply unacceptable.
what if it was more profitable to export all the food produced in the US to china than to sell it domestically?
surely you would demand that the government would intervene before you would starve.

there never been and there will never be a truly free market, humanity cant afford it.


further, 99% of the social housing in the netherlandsw was build unsubsidized on the backs of the proletariat who allowed the building cooperations to take an substantial part of their paycheck to build low income rent housing.
a few years ago the politicians stole these houses by transforming the cooperations into corporations over night. Because there is no room to build new houses (in desirable places) these houses are highly coveted and the corporations can make huge profits by selling of these workingclass houses, houses the corporations themselves often bought for literary one single guilder a piece.

finally, squatting in the netherlands doesnt challenge private property rights, its only challenges the right to do whatever you damn well please with it.
it ads an social responsibility to the equation, surely you agree with the fact that you are not allowed to dump your car anywhere in the middle of, lets say manhattan and just let it rust there. the government has to intervene and tow the car, its still your property (as long as you reclaim it fast enough), its just not allowed to waste this scarce space.
And admit it, if some asshole would let his car rot in your street while you never have an parkingspace i'm pretty sure you would first demand the state to tow it and if push came to shove you would get your neighbors together and do it yourself.
squatters argue not much different, its still your house but in scarcity the right to an roof over your head trumps the right to let your property stand empty (and everyone, from the dutch supreme court up to the UN human rights charter, agrees with that in fact) when the state refuses to force owners not to let their propperty stand empty (the towing of the car) we are going to do it our self.

I have to admit--it's difficult for me to discuss the Dutch real estate market, I can speak in generalities and about the American and Irish (where I do a little bit) markets, but I honestly don't have a clue why the Dutch real estate business does what it does. I would think that if there was a need--no mater what it was--it would be filled by the market. But as I said, I don't know.

Be so kind as to forget the post I wrote above and good luck with your endeavors.

Thanks.

And you Commies have some competetion for the hearts and minds of the future world: ZOMBIES!

http://zombieresearch.net/

[Sasha]

apropos of nothing:
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that kid rocks :thumbup: and yet i hate it to be his brother too :lol:

[Sasha]

also
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[Sasha]

last one:
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[Robert]

I just wanna say that this place is really swingin' the last couple of days. I credit the infusion of new Kapitalyst blood.

May it trickle down to the benefit of all.

[Revolution starts with U]

last one:
LsOo3jzkhYA

Thank you :)

I have to bury another friend tomorow; 3 in 6months because of heroin.
This was very inspiring, and exactly what I needed. I have to admit, I teared up a bit :crying:

Again. Thank you. That was exactly what I needed. Much love.

[#FF0000]

I have to bury another friend tomorow; 3 in 6months because of heroin.

Really sorry to hear that, guy. :(

[Revolution starts with U]

Tell me about it...
It's an epidemic. I just want to start locking these guys in storage facilties until they're clean. There's so many... one of my closest cousins will probably be next.
But they will just get clean, spend a few weeks like that and start abusin again. They're looking for something outside that they can only get within.
40 years we have been cracking down harder and harder on drugs and the problem continues to get worse... get the point guys!
Her brother is my best friend, a former marine and veteran of iraq and afghanistan... how do you survive that and come to home to this?!
Idk, i could go on for days...
/rant Ty for listening

[Revolution starts with U]

This new gang moved in from Detroit (the Detroit Boys) and crime went out the roof. They just ruthlessly took over the town. Now they're selling nearly pure heroin and people are dying like crazy. Her father heads a biker gang here and... idk... you know how racist a lot of bikers are.. it's not going to be good.
This all just seems like a bad movie played out over the last 4 years of my life.
Jesus Christ I just want to scream PEOPLE! BE REASONABLE!

Im going to stop talking about it lest I spam the forums with my personal problems. but you know.. I try to be indefatigable. But everyone needs a shoulder to lean on and someone to listen sometimes :D

[xub3rn00dlex]

Dude sometimes you just need to get things off your chest in order to be able to function, don't apologize for anything. We're all here for you if you need us, even if all we can do is listen.

[ComradeMan]

...

That's really sad. I'm sorry to hear about your friend and your other worries too.

[PhoenixAsh]

@ Bud


The empty offices are at 15% this year. That is an increase of 4.3% since Oktober last year...and in June this year that percentage was 14.4%. Yet they continue building offices. Real estate owners use the empty offices to inflate their property value and their market worth. The amount needed to correct their books amounts to 7 billion euro's (9.31 billion dollars) and this would only make their books realistic. It won't change the fact that the offices will stay empty nor does it chage the fact that the increase in empty offices is speeding up.

Currently we have a shortage of 500.000 houses for living. Since the housing market has been liberalised that number only increased with a negative build of 15.000 houses a year. This means that capitalism doesnt work at all to solve the problems on the housing markets.

THese were already structural problems which seriously hampered the economy in 2010 and still the government chose to protect private property and ban squatting. As Psycho explained the squatters do not attack private property. Buy they do attck these kinds of policies which created shortage and exorbitant prices.

[PhoenixAsh]

Ok...so... today in 1574 we defeated the Spanish forces in Leiden after a long protacted siege in which the whole city almost starved to death. That liberation is a huge landmark in Dutch history...and we celebrate this traditionally every year with a two day festival. There is a lot of tradition....but the best one is that everybody gets completely wasted.

So today I got drunk, climbed a windmill (don't ask), tried to break into a castle (don't ask either)...so three misdemeanors and two fellonies...got the number of a very pretty girl... slept or at least tried to sleep on a podium at 5:00 AM when suddenly a band climbed up the stage and I was rudely woken up by a trombone player who started playing for reverie...refused to move...did the morning reveille and the Koraal...mission accomplished. Take that Bush! We don't do much here...but when we do something and we say mission accomplished IT IS FUCKING ACCOMPLISHED.

Day two starts today...after I caught up on some Z's :D

[Bud Struggle]

I just wanna say that this place is really swingin' the last couple of days. I credit the infusion of new Kapitalyst blood.

May it trickle down to the benefit of all.

Hey Robert,

How 'bout we run his campaign for the Golden Che for this year?

[Bud Struggle]

@ Bud


The empty offices are at 15% this year. That is an increase of 4.3% since Oktober last year...and in June this year that percentage was 14.4%. Yet they continue building offices. Again I don't know your market. But in general construction like that is on a very long cycle often several years and it is difficult to ajuust to a quickly changing market.



Real estate owners use the empty offices to inflate their property value and their market worth. The amount needed to correct their books amounts to 7 billion euro's (9.31 billion dollars) and this would only make their books realistic. It won't change the fact that the offices will stay empty nor does it chage the fact that the increase in empty offices is speeding up. Usually a large number of empty offices would BRING DOWN property values. All in all though 15% isn't all that bad in this economy.


Currently we have a shortage of 500.000 houses for living. Since the housing market has been liberalised that number only increased with a negative build of 15.000 houses a year. This means that capitalism doesnt work at all to solve the problems on the housing markets. What does "been liberalized" mean? And a momentary mismatch in supply and demand doesn't mean Capitalism doesn't work--it just means there needs to be a correction in the housing market. Again, these things are on a long building cycle, so it will take a little time to correct itself.


THese were already structural problems which seriously hampered the economy in 2010 and still the government chose to protect private property and ban squatting. As Psycho explained the squatters do not attack private property. Buy they do attck these kinds of policies which created shortage and exorbitant prices.Well capitalists and polititians misjudge markets at times. They are only human. The Soviet Union consistantly misjudged its housing market for 40 years. It had the same housing problem you have, except they weren't allowed to protest about it.

[RGacky3]

Usually a large number of empty offices would BRING DOWN property values. All in all though 15% isn't all that bad in this economy.


Not if those empty offices are off the market and controlled by the big realestate guys.

I find it funny that Capitalists, of all people, don't think big capitalists are smart enough to game the system and control the markets.


What does "been liberalized" mean? And a momentary mismatch in supply and demand doesn't mean Capitalism--it just means there needs to be a correction in the housing market. Again, these things are on a long building cycle, so it will take a little time to correct itself.


Last time the housing market corrected itself in California it threw hte world into a 5 year recession thats juts getting worse.

liberalized usually means privatizing public housing, and lifting rent controls.

Supply and demand in the housing market, pure market forces never works.


Well capitalists and polititians misjudge markets at times. They are only human. The Soviet Union consistantly misjudged its housing market for 40 years. It had the same housing problem you have, except they weren't allowed to protest about it.

The Soviet Union had a similar system, except just one capitalist other than many competing.

But homelessness in the USSR was'nt a real problem at all, it almost dissapeared.

[hatzel]

So I've been away for a while, but now I'm back. By popular demand.

Also it's my birthday.

Let's do this :cool:

[Robert]

Cumpleaños feliz, hombre! Happy for you.

[Sasha]

Welcome back and congratz!

[Le Libérer]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g17/tmt45z9/guitarshowtheywork.jpg

[Robert]

COTR, are you a guitarist?

[hatzel]

Here's a question...

So people who want jobs go to the job centre, and the person who works there (assuming their do their job properly) helps them find a job. But how did the person who works in the job centre get their job? I assume no job centre worker has ever said "oh, you could do my job!" :confused:

[Robert]

It's funny. I had the same thought when I went to a jobs seminar once, and the speaker/moderator introduced himself by saying he started his own business helping people train for jobs because he didn't like his job.:lol:

[ComradeMan]

Here's a question...

So people who want jobs go to the job centre, and the person who works there (assuming their do their job properly) helps them find a job. But how did the person who works in the job centre get their job? I assume no job centre worker has ever said "oh, you could do my job!" :confused:

Hey, welcome back and a belated shanah tovah too.

[ComradeMan]

so i've been away for a while, but now i'm back. By popular demand.

Also it's my birthday.

Let's do this :cool:

יוֹם הֻלֶּדֶת שָֹמֵחַ


א פריילעכן געבורצטאָג

:d

[Bud Struggle]

Not if those empty offices are off the market and controlled by the big realestate guys.

I find it funny that Capitalists, of all people, don't think big capitalists are smart enough to game the system and control the markets. How to warehousing offices tie in with a lack of affordable housing? They really are two completely different markets.


Last time the housing market corrected itself in California it threw hte world into a 5 year recession thats juts getting worse.IT is a big chunk of GDP.


liberalized usually means privatizing public housing, and lifting rent controls.

Supply and demand in the housing market, pure market forces never works. They work just fine if the government stays out of the way. But "Liberalizing" the market then putting on controls, then "liberalizing" it again just makes a mess of things.


The Soviet Union had a similar system, except just one capitalist other than many competing.

But homelessness in the USSR was'nt a real problem at all, it almost dissapeared.Actually there was a huge problem. Milti families lived in small apartments. Married children lived with their parent until later life. (Very similar to the Communists on RevLeft. :D )

You are in that general vicinity--go look at Communist housing in St.Petersburg. Nasty stuff.

[RGacky3]

How to warehousing offices tie in with a lack of affordable housing? They really are two completely different markets.


Because its money and space in realestate that could be used for affordable housing that is not being used for that and instead being used for warehousing offices.

What should be done is that the public sector confiscates that and uses it for affordable housing instead.


IT is a big chunk of GDP.


Yeah, it is, but a big part of it was that it became heavily securitized.


They work just fine if the government stays out of the way. But "Liberalizing" the market then putting on controls, then "liberalizing" it again just makes a mess of things.


In practice its never been better if "the government just stays out of the way," markets have overall been liberalizing since the 1970s, if they worked it would have worked by now, it does'nt.


Actually there was a huge problem. Milti families lived in small apartments. Married children lived with their parent until later life. (Very similar to the Communists on RevLeft. :D )


There are statistics that can be found on this, and homelesseness dropped a lot and living standards raised a lot (I'm not defending the system), but thats a fact.


You are in that general vicinity--go look at Communist housing in St.Petersburg. Nasty stuff.

I've been there, go look at some of the ghettos in the United States.

[Bud Struggle]

Because its money and space in realestate that could be used for affordable housing that is not being used for that and instead being used for warehousing offices. They are two completely different businesses. They have almost nothing to do with one another. I personally am warehousing land here and in Ireland--long term. Land costs are low and I am planning ahead for my kids--maybe 20, 30 years in the future. What I do there is nobody's business but my own.


What should be done is that the public sector confiscates that and uses it for affordable housing instead. Because it isn't theirs.


Yeah, it is, but a big part of it was that it became heavily securitized. True, but that has nothing to do with the housing shortage. That is how most builders finance their buildings. Really, why is there a housing shortage in Holland? You have people that (may) want to pay rent. You have builders that should want to make money from those rents. There is a problem here--and to be hones, I don't understand what it is. (Yea, I know, Capitalism. :rolleyes:) What is the real problem?


In practice its never been better if "the government just stays out of the way," markets have overall been liberalizing since the 1970s, if they worked it would have worked by now, it does'nt. No it's a mishmash. I'm not in that business because I don't want to deal with the government. Nobody cares what I do--all business to business.


There are statistics that can be found on this, and homelesseness dropped a lot and living standards raised a lot (I'm not defending the system), but thats a fact. then find them. I was there in the 80s and it was a hell hole.


I've been there, go look at some of the ghettos in the United States.ghettos such to be sure. But the difference is that the USA has some--that's all the Soviet Union was.

Let me guess--there are no Ghettos in Norway, but there are none in Palm beach either. You and I are both living off the fat of the land.

[Skooma Addict]

I think some of the causes typically associated with the "left" are going to begin to crumble as I predict public opinion will turn against them soon.

1.) Affirmative action
2.) Feminism and basically the "womens rights" movement
3.) environmentalism

[#FF0000]

well thats bad

[#FF0000]

ghettos such to be sure. But the difference is that the USA has some--that's all the Soviet Union was.

People in the USSR had a higher standard of living than people in American ghettos.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Fuck the markets, houses are going empty while people sleep in the streets. If depriving some rich fuck or some soulless, faceless corporation of property they're just sitting on is what it takes to remedy that absurdity then I am all for it.

If that means some executive suit or rich fuck has to buy a Mercedes instead of an Aston Martin next month, well boo-fucking-hoo I'm all torn up about that (NOT!).

Some of you really don't fucking get it, do you? Relying on the market to address a basic need - somewhere to live - is a stupidity which it only makes sense to support if one is gaining something from it, i.e. profiting from other peoples' misery.

[Bud Struggle]

People in the USSR had a higher standard of living than people in American ghettos.

Same. Different though in some ways. Mostly in the USSR you couldn't get stuff. Here it's available, you just can't pay for it.

[#FF0000]

Same. Different though in some ways. Mostly in the USSR you couldn't get stuff. Here it's available, you just can't pay for it.

Yeah, but if I had to choose between being poor in America or poor in the USSR or Cuba, i would not be going to America.

[Bud Struggle]

Yeah, but if I had to choose between being poor in America or poor in the USSR or Cuba, i would not be going to America.

Cuba is kind of cool if you are a REAL entrepreneaur. The USSR really sucked. You would have to wait on line for hours to get the staples of life. In the end in the USSR--there just was nothing to eat. My wife and I once went into a supermarket to buy a couple of things when we where there to eat in our hotel room--and there was no food in the entire supermarket.

You would have to see it to believe it. We ended up buying some cheese that we found and they wrapped it in a newspaper and sold it to us.

[#FF0000]

Cuba is kind of cool if you are a REAL entrepreneaur. The USSR really sucked. You would have to wait on line for hours to get the staples of life. In the end in the USSR--there just was nothing to eat. My wife and I once went into a supermarket to buy a couple of things when we where there to eat in our hotel room--and there was no food in the entire supermarket.

You would have to see it to believe it. We ended up buy ing some cheese that we found and they wrapped it in a newspaper and sold it to us.

Guess it depends on when with the Soviet Union. Apparently it was nightmarish under Gorby.

[hatzel]

I'll thank CM for his greetings. Sorry I've been away, but there's been a lot going on :) But now I'm back!

I was in the pub getting pissed out of my skull, and I saw the outcome of the Meredith Kurcher case mk. II. I tell you, I'm ecstatic Knox and that-Italian-guy-who-once-looked-like-Harry-Potter-but-is-now-a-double-hard-bastard got off. I don't care if they did it or not; the evidence was bullcrap. No offense to the judiciary system of CM's dear Italy. So I'm glad they're free. Jacko's doctor, on the other hand...guilty as fucking sin!

[Bud Struggle]

Guess it depends on when with the Soviet Union. Apparently it was nightmarish under Gorby.

That's when I was there. Though honestly I was there under Yeltsin and it wasn't any different. Maybe worse economically. But somewhat freer politically.

[Bud Struggle]

I'll thank CM for his greetings. Sorry I've been away, but there's been a lot going on :) But now I'm back!

I was in the pub getting pissed out of my skull, and I saw the outcome of the Meredith Kurcher case mk. II. I tell you, I'm ecstatic Knox and that-Italian-guy-who-once-looked-like-Harry-Potter-but-is-now-a-double-hard-bastard got off. I don't care if they did it or not; the evidence was bullcrap. No offense to the judiciary system of CM's dear Italy. So I'm glad they're free. Jacko's doctor, on the other hand...guilty as fucking sin!


I understand you are a joker, a smoker, and mostly a mid night toquer. I played classical guitar for years--then I found out all the cute girls hung out with the flamingo guitarists.

http://a1.l3-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/107/8805bc220e9e4e0a85d186fe2ab78d48/l.jpg

[Skooma Addict]

well thats bad

Not at all. The left vastly underestimates their influence in American law and politics.

[#FF0000]

Not at all. The left vastly underestimates their influence in American law and politics.

i wasn't aware we had any influence at all

[Skooma Addict]

i wasn't aware we had any influence at all

In an ideal world you would have enough influence to get a social safety net and the necessary government regulations (aka the ones I agree with). But you would not have enough influence to feminize society.

[hatzel]

I found out all the cute girls hung out with the flamingo guitarists

I can confirm that this is true. I regularly just grab flamingos and strum away. The ladies love it. LOVE IT!!!

[Bud Struggle]

OI is so much more interesting than the rest of RevLeft.

[hatzel]

OI is so much more interesting than the rest of RevLeft.

That's because the rest of RevLeft talks about leftism or some shit like that :lol:

[Bud Struggle]

That's because the rest of RevLeft talks about leftism or some shit like that :lol:

At least you can find some Real World economics here. Not just the "AFTER THE REVOLUTION" (I'm going to crap in my pants and some people that LOVE to change people's smelly underware are going to clean it) stuff.

[hatzel]

I generally just wear my clothes in the shower. That gets it all pretty clean.

[Bud Struggle]

I generally just wear my clothes in the shower. That gets it all pretty clean.

REVISIONIST!!!!

You should be Restricted. :D

[hatzel]

Nah, I'm a real working class hero :lol:

[Le Libérer]

Here's a question...

So people who want jobs go to the job centre, and the person who works there (assuming their do their job properly) helps them find a job. But how did the person who works in the job centre get their job? I assume no job centre worker has ever said "oh, you could do my job!" :confused:
In this situation, your son in law gets the job.

[hatzel]

But I don't have a son-in-law :(

Ah well...

[Bud Struggle]

I am a Capitalist
I escaped from my cage
I never worked for a living
I never made minimum wage
But you all will obey me
When my red flag is unfurled
I'll be your Glorious Leader
And I'll ruled the world.

[Bud Struggle]

RevLeft:

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsdth0p41G1qc36yjo1_500.jpg

[Robert]

Ah hahahahahaha! That's great.

I'm the only one around here that isn't afraid of Psycho or Cotr or ... whatever femme fatale that is. I'm a man.

Those women can't scare me.

Not really.

Um ... they're not online right now, are they?:scared:

[Agent Ducky]

AMG La Sombra is back welcome back we all missed you <3 :D

[hatzel]

My life just wasn't the same without my daily dose of Ducky, of course :) Glad to be back!

[Sasha]

Ah hahahahahaha! That's great.

I'm the only one around here that isn't afraid of Psycho or Cotr or ... whatever femme fatale that is. I'm a man.

Those women can't scare me.



:confused:
*sticks hand in underpants to check if he still haves balls... Yup both still there...*

[ComradeMan]

I'll thank CM for his greetings. Sorry I've been away, but there's been a lot going on :) But now I'm back!

I was in the pub getting pissed out of my skull, and I saw the outcome of the Meredith Kurcher case mk. II. I tell you, I'm ecstatic Knox and that-Italian-guy-who-once-looked-like-Harry-Potter-but-is-now-a-double-hard-bastard got off. I don't care if they did it or not; the evidence was bullcrap. No offense to the judiciary system of CM's dear Italy. So I'm glad they're free. Jacko's doctor, on the other hand...guilty as fucking sin!

Obviously this case has been and still is big news. In fact the verdict was live on television last night with the usual studio commentaries and so on. Opinion is divided but a lot of people are saying it's a brave move in the name of justice by the court of assizes because they have upheld justice to the cost of the previous judicial inquiries and decisions. However the public prosecution is not happy at all and may attempt "ricorso in cassazione" (cassation) which roughly means trying to get the judgement quashed- although given the profile of the case and the fact that one of those involved is already on their way back to the US I am not sure if they will have much success. Of course this also opens up another question, justice for that poor English girl who was murdered. The other conviction, i.e. Guede, was for a homicide committed with others---- the question that people are asking now is, who are those others?

http://www.ilgiornale.it/interni/la_knox_volo_usa_sollecito_e_casa_sua_puglia/amanda_know-raffaele_sollecito-processo_meredith/04-10-2011/articolo-id=549843-page=0-comments=1

[Robert]

Those women can't scare me.

Aw, Psycho, you're a guy for real? That messed up my joke, which was intended as self-deprecating, honest. (You didn't paste the punch line, but that's okay.)

Sorry,

R

[Skooma Addict]

:confused:
*sticks hand in underpants to check if he still haves balls... Yup both still there...*

Are you seriously actually a guy?

[Sasha]

Last time i checked i was...
Not that I mind, and I know in irl I can look a bit androgyn but whatever gave you the impression in my writing I was female?

[Robert]

If that's directed at me, nothing. I musta just got you confused with COTR, or maybe it was something you said in the shaving thread. And no, I don't want to dredge that up again. I'm just now starting to get the beard to grow back on my butt. And, hoo boy, don't it itch!

If your question was directed at Skooma, I bet a beer he's just messin' with ya.

Anyway, sorry if I said the wrong thing.

And Noxion, you give shitty advice.

[xub3rn00dlex]

If that's directed at me, nothing. I musta just got you confused with COTR, or maybe it was something you said in the shaving thread. And no, I don't want to dredge that up again. I'm just now starting to get the beard to grow back on my butt. And, hoo boy, don't it itch!

Use baby powder. Baby powder that ass crack up, and you will itch no more!

[PhoenixAsh]

O HELL YESSSS!!!! :D

http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/funny-facebook-fails-defending-our-defenders.jpg


THAT is how it should be done!

[PhoenixAsh]

http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/epic-win-photos-search-engine-win.jpg

[Skooma Addict]

Last time i checked i was...
Not that I mind, and I know in irl I can look a bit androgyn but whatever gave you the impression in my writing I was female?

Yes, from by your writing I thought you were a girl.


If your question was directed at Skooma, I bet a beer he's just messin' with ya.
Damn rob you know me too well. See if Bud came in time to play along, we could have seriously gotten him to think tons of people on here thought he was a girl.

[Ocean Seal]

http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/300470_279820252046223_196601040368145_1113051_356 401137_n.jpg

Its common, but I think the fact that the officer is looking at the sign makes it all the more powerful.

[La Comédie Noire]

I like the name of this thread me and my ex gf used to have this joke about her friend's mom who was wicked christian. I guess when they were little the mom said to them "petting leads to other things" and that just became this big foreplay inside joke we'd bring up every once in awhile.

I do miss her sense of humour. :(

[Revolution starts with U]

So we buried her and went to the dinner afterwards. I showed up just in time to see another childhood friend overdosing on alcohol and valuums (idk how to spell it) and help them put him on a stretcher and carry it down the stairs.
He's fine. He had just hadn't slept in a while and that's what caused it. But he still wasn't breathing. I thought I was going to have to bury another friend....
At the hospital tho, when he finally woke up, the only thing he was worried about was if anyone called his parents. He was like "my dad has a bad heart, he doesnt have to know about this." Im like, "you were dying buddy, of course we called your parents." :rolleyes: (i wish there was a roll-eyes emoticon that wasn't smiling)
The kids are not all right...

[Robert]

Many have tried to lose more clip-on sunglasses than I have, and just as many have failed.

I'm glad they're cheap.


on edit: Rev Starts with U, I don't mean to trivialize your losses by complaining about my stupid sunglasses right after your funeral post.

And I want to believe that whatever was distressing your friends isn't distressing you, but since we all have much in common with our friends, well, my mind is racing here. Put me at ease.

[xub3rn00dlex]

So we buried her and went to the dinner afterwards. I showed up just in time to see another childhood friend overdosing on alcohol and valuums (idk how to spell it) and help them put him on a stretcher and carry it down the stairs.
He's fine. He had just hadn't slept in a while and that's what caused it. But he still wasn't breathing. I thought I was going to have to bury another friend....
At the hospital tho, when he finally woke up, the only thing he was worried about was if anyone called his parents. He was like "my dad has a bad heart, he doesnt have to know about this." Im like, "you were dying buddy, of course we called your parents." :rolleyes: (i wish there was a roll-eyes emoticon that wasn't smiling)
The kids are not all right...

Damn rev, how are you holding up through all this? I know you're stressing out and it's hard, but how are you emotionally? Physically? You describe your surroundings so vividly, yet you seem very quiet about yourself. As rob said, we might be worried about you considering you're in the middle of this.

[Revolution starts with U]

Many have tried to lose more clip-on sunglasses than I have, and just as many have failed.

I'm glad they're cheap.


on edit: Rev Starts with U, I don't mean to trivialize your losses by complaining about my stupid sunglasses right after your funeral post.

And I want to believe that whatever was distressing your friends isn't distressing you, but since we all have much in common with our friends, well, my mind is racing here. Put me at ease.
Oh I would never insinuate that. Don't worry about it :lol:
You have no responsiblilty to care about my problems. I know you do, and I thank you. I'm just saying you have no responsiblity to. :thumbup1:


Damn rev, how are you holding up through all this? I know you're stressing out and it's hard, but how are you emotionally? Physically? You describe your surroundings so vividly, yet you seem very quiet about yourself. As rob said, we might be worried about you considering you're in the middle of this.
Idk, physically I am fine. I don't do the drugs... at least not the addictive ones :lol:
Emotionally, idk. Im pissed off. I loved her; as a sister, but also just in love. She was beautiful, physically and emotionally. And I'm worried about some of my other friends, but I don't know what else to do other than encourage them to find love in their hearts, not in a substance.
I am usually quiet about myself. I just don't consider my personal problems that important, I guess.

Thank you for caring tho. I will be fine. I've always handled mortality "well." But, you know. Practice love, in everything you do.

[xub3rn00dlex]

Idk, physically I am fine. I don't do the drugs... at least not the addictive ones :lol:
Emotionally, idk. Im pissed off. I loved her; as a sister, but also just in love. She was beautiful, physically and emotionally. And I'm worried about some of my other friends, but I don't know what else to do other than encourage them to find love in their hearts, not in a substance.
I am usually quiet about myself. I just don't consider my personal problems that important, I guess.

Thank you for caring tho. I will be fine. I've always handled mortality "well." But, you know. Practice love, in everything you do.

Stay off the drugs! Except weed, you have my blessing! ;)

I can sort of relate to you about love, since I still love my ex both friendship wise and more intimately even though it's been over a year since we broke up. I don't know how I'd handle losing her, but I imagine I would be thrust right into your shoes since I tend to be volatile about my emotions. I find substances tempting, especially when in pain but I never really have what it takes to use them excessively... maybe try finding things you guys can do together? Like play football on weekends or something?

I'm also the same when expressing my own problems, solid as a rock. But we care about you here, and this is a major problem and you know you can pour it all out over here without anyone judging. We're always here for you if you need us. I hope things get better for you man, especially since your quietness might hide the more emotionally unstable side of you if you have one.

[Revolution starts with U]

Stay off the drugs! Except weed, you have my blessing! ;)

I smoke, but Ive never really felt good or had a good time on much else. I will do psychedelics every once in a while as a shamanic kind-of thing too. And caffiene. But thats a given in America :lol:

I can sort of relate to you about love, since I still love my ex both friendship wise and more intimately even though it's been over a year since we broke up. I don't know how I'd handle losing her, but I imagine I would be thrust right into your shoes since I tend to be volatile about my emotions.
Idk, the worst part (and I probably shouldnt say this out loud).. let me give you some background...
She's my best friends sister, and he was never really down w his sister dating.. you know how that is :lol: So I could have never, out of respect for him, told her. I just kind-of let it slide and tried to find that second best.
But I had a dream about a month ago. I told her. And it was beautiful. She didn't even say anyting, just hugged me. I woke up with the greatest feeling, ever. I was in a slump sort-of from not working anymore, and that dream got me re-invested in being creative. I've been writing a lot since then. I decided that day that I was going to tell her the next time I was out there. ... Don't ever not tell someone you love them. You may not get the chance.
It's just tough man. Tell your ex you still love her. Tell her you don't care about being in a relationship, you just want her to know you still love her.
I find substances tempting, especially when in pain but I never really have what it takes to use them excessively... maybe try finding things you guys can do together? Like play football on weekends or something?
That's actually a good idea. We used to play basketball like mad before he left for the marines, I should set up a weekly game we can just hang out and play.


I'm also the same when expressing my own problems, solid as a rock. But we care about you here, and this is a major problem and you know you can pour it all out over here without anyone judging. We're always here for you if you need us. I hope things get better for you man, especially since your quietness might hide the more emotionally unstable side of you if you have one.
Again, thank you man. I just need people to talk to that aren't in the loop. And people will judge me, I've never really cared about that. It's trival to worry about it. Take their sound judgement, and change if you need to. If it is not sound, move along.

I just want to get the message out. You can't find love in a substance. Love is in your heart. It is something that you do. You can take drugs, that is fine. But if you are taking them to escape the hate, it will never work. YOU are the only one who can do anything.
Just pay attention. When you're about to stick that needle in your arm, think... "has this gone too far?"

[Robert]

You guys got balls sharing such personal experiences on the board. It makes for interesting reading.

The most personal thing I ever revealed here is that I don't drink coffee. Too strong.

Your basic wild man.

[Revolution starts with U]

Well it's not like I can afford a psychiatrist on a prole salary :lol:

[Skooma Addict]

People have way too much hatred towards each other nowadays. Everything is a competition. Competition for money ( Which is fine, as long as I make 6 or 7 figures) Competition for women (which is fine, as long as I am the one getting laid. Other people can have the relationships and marriage and all that), and competition for power (which is fine, as long as I do relatively well in this regard. I won't be unreasonable enough to demand dictator or anything, just mafia boss or something).

Let it flow...

[Skooma Addict]

Well it's not like I can afford a psychiatrist on a prole salary :lol:

Learn a trade dude. Those guys can end up making some serious MONAY. Plumbers and electricians can do pretty well for themselves after some time working, especially if they end up opening their own shop.

Let it flow...

[#FF0000]

plumbing and electrician stuff is a father-son trade. I know people are all like LOL LEARN A TRADE MAKE BANK but nah it's really hard to get a job in it. At least in NE USA

[Revolution starts with U]

People have way too much hatred towards each other nowadays. Everything is a competition. Competition for money ( Which is fine, as long as I make 6 or 7 figures) Competition for women (which is fine, as long as I am the one getting laid. Other people can have the relationships and marriage and all that), and competition for power (which is fine, as long as I do relatively well in this regard. I won't be unreasonable enough to demand dictator or anything, just mafia boss or something).

Let it flow...

Yes, fallacy is a lifestyle when we're unaware. I want people to WAKE UP. Take control of your life.


Learn a trade dude. Those guys can end up making some serious MONAY. Plumbers and electricians can do pretty well for themselves after some time working, especially if they end up opening their own shop.

Let it flow...

:lol: I have a lot of money invested in being a cultural anthropolgist already. And that's what I want to do, but not in the classical sense. I just want to study humans and learn how to teach them control and awareness.

[#FF0000]

man i still don't know what i want to do

i think i want to teach but i'm just not ready yet. I should be graduating this year. I won't be, but I should be. That means I could be teaching next fucking year.

Man, no. I'm not ready for that. I'm moving out and have a decent paying job for my age and the times. That's good. I've considered starting up and running a game shop with some friends like a co-op or something. That'd be fine (even though it'd be out of business in a minute, by virtue of being a traditional game shop).

But a career? Nope. I'm not ready for that. I don't feel like I've lived yet.

Man. I'm 21 and I feel like I've wasted my life already.

[ComradeMan]

Why don't both of you do VSO or Peace Corps or something first so you can see a bit of the world?

[#FF0000]

Maybe. I've travelled in the past. I don't know if that's what I'm looking for, though. Maybe.

[Bud Struggle]

Maybe. I've travelled in the past. I don't know if that's what I'm looking for, though. Maybe.

Get a girl pregnant and then marry her. All you problems on what to do will be solved. :D

[hatzel]

Bud with the solid advice once again :)

[Bud Struggle]

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrsl0dpjml1qmf0yno1_500.jpg

[hatzel]

So my toilet seat broke (or, finally finished breaking, which took about 18 months from start to finish) and I got a new one today. In the catalogue it was called 'deluxe toilet seat.' They weren't lying. It looks like a piece of antique furniture. To borrow a phrase from #FF0000, it's seriously ballin'. And I hope you're all jelly. Etc.

[PhoenixAsh]

I am serriously wondering what can be deluxe about a toilet seat....\


One of my friends has one with a dolphin on the cover.

[#FF0000]

I don't think I have ever used the term "jelly" and frankly I'm sort of offended if you are implying that I do

[hatzel]

I don't think I have ever used the term "jelly" and frankly I'm sort of offended if you are implying that I do

Yeah, to be honest that was my own little addition :) Soz or whatever it is the kids say nowadays...

However, as you're all seriously committed to this story now, I will demonstrate how a toilet seat can, indeed, be 'deluxe':

http://i55.tinypic.com/mcspi8.jpg

The first requirement of any deluxe toilet seat is that it has to be made of wood, because plastic just ain't gonna to cut it. However, it can't just be any old wood, oh no - it needs a pretty grain, for a deluxe finish; here we see ash, with the kind of flaming that would get anybody excited. And, if we look very closely, we'll notice that it is ergonomically shaped for comfort. A throne fit for a king, I think you'll agree.

[#FF0000]

So, I've noticed that no other toilet seat ever feels quite right aside from the one that one has at home. Anyone else notice that?

Also I think I will publish a dictionary full of #FF0000 speak and phrases.

Like, for instance here:


However, as you're all seriously committed to this story now, I will demonstrate how a toilet seat can, indeed, be 'deluxe':I would have said

"anyway look at what i got that y'all don't got haaaaaaaa"

[Robert]

Sombra said:


However, as you're all seriously committed to this story now, I will demonstrate how a toilet seat can, indeed, be 'deluxe' FF# would have said


anyway look at what i got that y'all don't got haaaaaaaa"


Gacky would have said:


Norway's so great that everybody's got his own coop toilet democratically installed by a union. Rev Starts with you would have said:


I love my toiletKapitalyst would have said:


I made my own toilet, saved
the money, and bought cocoa futures. Made me some serious dough.
Somebody would have said:


The Portland Police kicked down the door and destroyed my toilet. For no
reason. Robert would have said:


The toilet you have is as good as any toilet you're likely to ever have,
so stop this nonsensical dreaming or the vanguard will give you the
toilet they think is best.Khad would have said:


Your toilet's racist. Enjoy your infraction. Skooma would have said:


Dude, just sit, [email protected]#$%^&*, and shutup.

[PhoenixAsh]

And hinsight would have said:


Where are the freaking dolphins?!

http://s2.thisnext.com/media/largest_dimension/CE5617A4.jpg


If it aint got dolphins it aint a real toilet seat

[Revolution starts with U]

I do love my toilet :wub:

...except when my grandma comes out and clogs it up.... :laugh:

[Skooma Addict]

"People believe in what they believe for social reasons and not because they actually know anything about what they believe."

That is so true.

[PhoenixAsh]

I think this will be next on La Sombra's wish list.


http://hackedirl.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/epic-win-photos-wood-bath-win.jpg


It is a bath...made from wood

[Bud Struggle]

Sombra said:FF# would have said

Gacky would have said:

Rev Starts with you would have said:

Kapitalyst would have said:Somebody would have said:

Robert would have said:

Khad would have said:

Skooma would have said:

Nailed it. One of the Best Chatter posts ever.

You have to think that Gacky works for the Norway Tourist Bureau.

[Robert]

I had bunches more, but they were kinda mean.

[Bud Struggle]

I had bunches more, but they were kinda mean.


Do tell! :)

[Revolution starts with U]

Can I add that "I love my toilet, and as such think it should have a democratic say in whether or not it wants my feces" :thumbup:

[RedAnarchist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHcwrvBguPM

[StockholmSyndrome]

Why can't I post visitor messages?

[Robert]

So today I leaned wayyyy back in a chair to close my eyes and rest a bit from my daily toil. I had a glass of tea in my hand, as always, and there was a nice bit of tea left in the bottom, maybe 4.5 ounces, and lots of slushy melting ice.

That's when tea gets really good, so I wanted some, see? A little private tea party, as it were. If you will ... Pleasant thoughts of Sarah and Boston, 1773 danced in my sleepy head.

So I brought the glass to my mouth and tried to get a taste. But the ice was freezing the tea by now, looking really good and all, but I couldn't get the tea to move past that freezing slush.

So I shook it a little. A little more. Shaking harder, me still leaning way back and awaiting ecstasy ... the tea was trapped below the ice like a desperate whale under the north pole. A kind of "whale OI." The tea just wouldn't dislodge ... harder did I shake!

Finally the whole contents of the glass whooshed out of the glass and into my face and onto my chest and down into my pants, saturating me with icy tea.

I can't remember changing shirts but I'm dry now. At least I got some tea. I was feeling all "jelly," as #FF would say.

On edit: I see now that "jelly" means jealous, not "warm and fuzzy" like I thought. So I'm not sure what #FF means when he says it.

[#FF0000]

I was feeling all "jelly," as #FF would say.

sir this is libel you will be hearing from my lawyer

[Le Libérer]

hYuHKw5EI78
My little brother wishes he had this kind of swagger.

[Robert]

Great video. It looks awfully familiar. It kills me when that kid does the "shake a tail feather" move. :lol:

[Le Rouge]

Jm3rHONOr9o

Ewww....

[MustCrushCapitalism]

hYuHKw5EI78
My little brother wishes he had this kind of swagger.
Oh my god I love this video.

[Revolution starts with U]

So.. ya.. in case anyone didn't notice, Jeopardy featured a catageory called "Lefty" where the answers were Mao, Che, Chavez, Trotsky, and another whom I cannot remember..." but.. ya... that's cool :)

[CleverTitle]

Jeopardy is the vanguard of the revolution.

[Revolution starts with U]

Bud would probably agree with you, with how trival he finds the whole "revolution" thing :lol: (Get it? haha, I crack myself up sometimes :laugh:)

But no. I was running to the store and I heard someone say on the radio "Venus is the morning star" so I started singing that to myself like the crazy person that I am. Now Imagine the regular parts in a... you know that voice that powerfully comes from the chest and is deep but high pitched at the same time... idk who Im thinking of specifically, someone like that guy Carlton was really into.. Tom Jones or something.
Okay, so imagine the regular parts in a Tom Jones voice, and the bolded parts in like a doo-wop/motown background females thing. This is what I came up with.

Venus is the morning star
Im gona get up! Get up! Get up and ri-hide (ride)
I dont really go that far
I just sit up Sit up Sit up and fly high

It's dumb I know :lol: But I had to stop singing it because I might as well have been saying "Hail Satan" if you get the symbolism ;)

[#FF0000]

Man, I have been arguing with people in the past few days. Winning the arguments, sure, but I'm tired of it already. Tired of people 1) who assume I'm "looking for a handout" or need to "get a job" because I hold a certain opinion or something. It's amusing, I think, that I hear this after 12 hours on the factory or warehouse floor, but still -- it gets old.

And tired of 2) People who are aggressive as fuck and don't know what they're talking about. I take the aggression in stride, though. I don't sound like it bothers me or gets me angry. Again, I think it's funny when people tell me Reagan cut spending and we saw prosperity because of it, when Reagan raised taxes himself and increased spending and doubled the debt (for example).

But it gets old real quick. I remember being a kid and looking at adults and being like "OH MAN HOW WILL I EVER BE SO SMART AND GROWN-UP" but here I am teaching people twice my age lessons in history, economics, and civility.

But I shouldn't get bitter. Yelle makes it better.

8QOxKCKC09A

[Robert]

#FF, are you blowing off steam or can you handle some feedback on all your frustrations, gripes and ruminations on the shortcomings of your fellow man? You sound lost and bitter, and I got just the remedy for ya if you'll listen.

"Welp, okay, guy. (FF# wary now). Color me mildly curious. Can't be any worse than some of the other dumb baby stuff I have to listen to all day anyway on this lame board or on my [email protected]#$%^&* job from people who think they know as much as I do on economics, sociology, ethics and civility."

Okay then, here's my feedback, and I say this with affection, respect and utter sincerity:

You should join the United States Coast Guard.

FF#:
"Hahahahahaha. :laugh:. What the FFFuck??? Okay, Rob, I'll do that right after I stick some needles in my eye, mkay? Mmmmmkay? Hey, hey, smart guy who's learned nothing about class struggle in all these years on Revleft, here's what you need to do: You kiss my commie [email protected]#$%^&*. Oh yeah, and then go sit on your suburban teakwood toilet, thank all of Bud's posts on real estate investment, and shut up, too."No, I'm dead serious. I can see you in one of those orange helmets in a big [email protected]#$%^&* Sikkorsky rescuing people off rooftops in New Orleans in the next hurricane. Clear as day. Why not? It's an honorable way to earn your daily bread. The revolution is a couple centuries away. You'll earn a salary, get fit, get to wear cool goggles, save your fellow man from natural catastrophes, save some dough, stop heroin dealers at the border, learn a marketable skill, all without having to advance the neo-fascistic racial homophobic imperialist etc. agenda of Amerikkka in a foreign land. (I almost said "homoerotic agenda" by mistake, LOL) Seriously, your commie "friends" will mock you, but you're big enough to handle that. You'll be like Michael Coreleone telling a flabbergasted Santino: "I joined the Marines this morning."

And you'll be able to tell rednecks in bars in 10 years things like "uh, dude, I served too, so how can I say this? Oh yeah, shut up."

Will it kill you to look at this (http://www.gocoastguard.com/) and then talk to a recruiter?

[#FF0000]

Haaaa

well i always liked the idea of being a sailor. sux that the only people with ships are big companies and the navy. i want to be a privateer.

but yeah i don't think i'll be joining the coast guard.

don't think i'll be doing that international volunteer stuff comrademan suggested either.

there's plenty of soup kitchens around here to work at

[Revolution starts with U]

Ok so Im almost done with my personal rendition of Man of Constant Sorrow. This song has really helped me through these tough times. It's not as quick and jumpy as the movie version, but definitely more poppy than some of the old timey versions.
I also made slight changes to the words to better suit my situation. I just need to polish it up, and then I'm going to put it up on youtube and/or facebook. So, if anyone wants my fb, just pm me :D It has like a hippe folk/jewel kind of sound to me.
This will be my first ever public singing, but it's still kind of exciting :lol: Expect it in about a week or two... whenever I can get to the "studio" (ie, my friend's house)

[hatzel]

I'm off for Yom Kippur, kittens. Baruch Hashem. See you on the other side and all that jazz. I hope you'll all stay in line for the next 27 hours or so...

[PhoenixAsh]

Tzom Kal; G'mar Hatimah Tovah

[xub3rn00dlex]

Learn a trade dude. Those guys can end up making some serious MONAY. Plumbers and electricians can do pretty well for themselves after some time working, especially if they end up opening their own shop.

Let it flow...

Construction industry has hit a 30 year low, I don't know whether that means nationally or just in the NE. Most of my relatives used to work construction until they got laid off. And no, plumbers and electricians don't make well for themselves lol, unless they own their own firm and exploit other plumbers and electricians. My firm ( I work for it ) is a private, non unionized firm working on renovations for millionaires/billionaires, and the single most important aspect of success. This in turns makes it very difficult for up and coming firms to compete, since the older bigger players are firmly rooted in inter-company contracts.


I think this will be next on La Sombra's wish list.

It is a bath...made from wood

Seems like something my company would install lmao. The shit we install man, would blow your mind.

[ComradeMan]

Tzom Kal; G'mar Hatimah Tovah

Tzom kal... khaver.


Tpq9gTGwyRM

[#FF0000]

welp i'm done with politics for awhile

[#FF0000]

Man I don't even know how to express myself right now.

[Robert]

welp i'm done with politics for awhile You mean ... you really ...?

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRFgNd1Pl1mdBACaxnBjpq0hdyMfOOMI JuSKqPWRDgo6Lkk0L8c

All riiiii-ght, man!!!!

[Robert]

Man I don't even know how to express myself right now.

Sometimes there's nothing to say, just lots to do.

[#FF0000]

Well, I didn't join the coast guard (All of their boats and helicopters are orange and I just can't abide that color scheme)

I am just tired of people.

[Robert]

Politics is about forcibly arranging relations among people

It isn't natural, all this "you go over here, and you do this, and you do that" business.

"Natural" means we all team up in roving bands of no more than 150 members. Hunt and fish all day. Stay in caves on rainy days and draw bulls and horses on the walls and make beer. Bang on some gourds and blow flutes. Until the noise gets on your nerves and you go apeshit and leave to start your own band. (Get it? Your own band?) Nobody says you can't leave and nobody says you shouldn't leave.

Don't tell me that don't sound good.

I call it: anarchy.

[Robert]

Man I don't even know how to express myself right now.

Chomsky always knows just what to say.

[Bud Struggle]

Chomsky always knows just what to say.

That why he's such a big hit at dinner parties. Swave and chic--but with that hint of Anarchy that makes him irresistible to women.

Some people mistakenly call him an Idealist. But I have it on good information from people "in the know" that he really is a Materialist.

[Robert]

he really is a Materialist

:thumbup:

[PhoenixAsh]

Chomsky is a left-libertarian. Offcourse he is a materialist. All communists and socialists are materialists. It is the foundation of our ideology.

The stupid mistakes people in the US make in throwing around wrongly applied and interpreted labels is increadibly worrying. It seems like capitalism has fucked up the educational levels to a disturbing level of idiocy and people have problems understanding what means what exactly.

[hatzel]

welp i'm done with politics for awhile

Coincidentally, my Facebook profile currently claims - somewhat tongue-in-cheekly - that I am "post-political." This suggests we're both in the same (unsightly orange coast guard) boat :)

[Kitty_Paine]

Coincidentally, my Facebook profile currently claims - somewhat tongue-in-cheekly - that I am "post-political." This suggests we're both in the same (unsightly orange coast guard) boat :)

I can only hope with the collapse of Capitalism comes the collapse of Facebook... blah :p

Nothin' against you, just sayin'...

[hatzel]

I can only hope with the collapse of Capitalism comes the collapse of Facebook... blah :p

I think you'll find the collapse of Facebook will both precede and directly bring about the collapse of capitalism...

[Kitty_Paine]

I think you'll find the collapse of Facebook will both precede and directly bring about the collapse of capitalism...

:lol: Very good point. And now that you say that, it makes complete sense... I think you've figured it out!

So that means if Anonymous successfully takes down Facebook on November 5th, the destruction of Capitalism will surely follow... :p

[Robert]

I am "post-political."

Great! You can join my band. There are two sections: Wind (flute) and percussion (gourd).

It doesn't really matter which section you start in. The pay's the same, and somebody's always going apeshit and leaving, so opportunities for advancement and lateral moves abound.

[Robert]

All communists and socialists are materialists. It is the foundation of our ideology.


Yes, we know that. And we know what it means. Calm down.


Offcourse he is a materialist.

So we all agree. What's the problem?

Really Hindsight, I don't think you get Bud's joke. Or mine.

[hatzel]

Unfortunately I'm already in this guy's band:

http://images.creaturesinmyhead.com/creatures/070510-fishats.gif

We play jazz.

[Robert]

Hot Tuna?

Well, we can't pay as much, but you get all the meat you can kill and grill.

[Bud Struggle]

Yes, we know that. And we know what it means. Calm down.



So we all agree. What's the problem?

Really Hindsight, I don't think you get Bud's joke. Or mine.

Wow, Robert we are playing a tough room here! Is seem Chomsky jokes are off limits and DON'T EVER question a Leftist's Materialist credentials.

:D

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070105150555/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/c/ce/Chomskybook1.jpg/250px-Chomskybook1.jpg

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100215103032/uncyclopedia/images/8/83/CHOMSKY_AND_COLOGNE.jpg

[Bud Struggle]

Gnome Chomsky

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20050918052312/uncyclopedia/images/2/27/Garden_Gnome.jpg

[hatzel]

DON'T EVER question a Leftist's Materialist credentials.

Indeed. It would be terribly offensive to suggest that a Leftist may remain philosophically relevant...

*Burnage*

Nah, it's a'ight, I'm just kiddin' :)

[Robert]

I like it when somebody calls me a troll or a moron and then I see them snooping around on my profile page. What are they looking for?

"Hmph, stupid fool. A complete bore, an uninteresting, wasted load. Wish he'd go away. I'll just take a peek on his page here to find out -- just a quick peek, I said."

[#FF0000]

Welp, I just played a fantastic game of Shogun 2 Total War. Hope you guys are ready for some war stories because I have a huge story to tell of my glory and honor on the field of battle.

[Kitty_Paine]

I like it when somebody calls me a troll or a moron and then I see them snooping around on my profile page. What are they looking for?

"Hmph, stupid fool. A complete bore, an uninteresting, wasted load. Wish he'd go away. I'll just take a peek on his page here to find out -- just a quick peek, I said."

They must secretly admire you, but from afar... you mustn't find out... so they call you a dumbass to throw you off... :p Or something...

The post made me giggle is all...

[#FF0000]

It means they think you're cute, Robert.

[CleverTitle]

Welp, I just played a fantastic game of Shogun 2 Total War. Hope you guys are ready for some war stories because I have a huge story to tell of my glory and honor on the field of battle.
This reminds me that I've never played more than 10 minutes of Shogun 2. Bought it back when it came out, then my PC decided to die.

I guess I'll do that now.

[Robert]

It means they think you're cute, Robert. And they're right.

Anyway, I got Miss Kitty Paine all giggly.

[Kitty_Paine]

And they're right.

Anyway, I got Miss Kitty Paine all giggly.

Kitty, are you going to look at my profile?

Go ahead. I looked at yours.

Way ahead of you, I looked at it right after I posted that comment. It seemed the appropriate thing to do anyway... :p

I couldn't help myself anyway... had to... to... to... take a peak.... just a little one... just one.... :lol:

[Robert]

Well, I am pleased to hear it, Kitty.

[Le Rouge]

Welp, I just played a fantastic game of Shogun 2 Total War. Hope you guys are ready for some war stories because I have a huge story to tell of my glory and honor on the field of battle.

Shogun 2 is shit.


Empire Darthmod pwn the TW series combined.

[Kitty_Paine]

Well, I am pleased to hear it, Kitty. You can check me out any time you like.

My page, I mean.

Yes, indeedy.

:lol: Yah...

Go fuck youself... :p

*sarcasm*

[Robert]

Proper naughty

[PhoenixAsh]

Wow, Robert we are playing a tough room here! Is seem Chomsky jokes are off limits and DON'T EVER question a Leftist's Materialist credentials.

:D

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070105150555/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/c/ce/Chomskybook1.jpg/250px-Chomskybook1.jpg

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100215103032/uncyclopedia/images/8/83/CHOMSKY_AND_COLOGNE.jpg


but this is funny :D

[PhoenixAsh]

Welp, I just played a fantastic game of Shogun 2 Total War. Hope you guys are ready for some war stories because I have a huge story to tell of my glory and honor on the field of battle.

do share :)

[Robert]

Neftali Feliz is throwing 100 mph fastballs to the Detroit Tigers right now. One after the other. Oops ... One just hit 102 mph.:ohmy:

Tigers can't get their bats around on them. Feliz struck out all three
Detroit batters in the 9th inning. Wicked!

[PhoenixAsh]

Reactionary chatter seems to be heating up :D

[Robert]

Images of a shirtless Noam Fraudsky make me wild with desire.

[#FF0000]

do share :)

It's a p. long tale so I will put it in the Spoilers.

So I played a game of Shogun 2 online against a 7-Star daimyo who decided to be a sport and field all of his finest veteran units against mine.(For those that don't know: 7-stars is kind of a lot and is way above my 3 star rank, and veteran units are a cut way above normal ol' units, like what I mostly had)

I dimly remember a quote, made by some officer in World War 1, I believe, before the Meuse-Argonne. "In war, the only sin is to not act", or something along those lines. That simple principal was the lesson I taught my opponent through the violent, blood-soaked parable that was this battle.

The battlefield was a forest gully. A shallow gully down the middle of the field, flanked by light hills and light forest. I set my main force (of samurai and warrior monks armed with bow, nanigata, and katana, and ashigaru armed with bows and simple matchlocks) up on the western hill over the gully. It was higher, slightly more forested, making for a slower advance but denying enemy scouts an accurate assessment of my forces.

My cavalry consisted my my general and his horse-archer body guard, a unit of mounted warrior monks armed with nanigata, and light spear cavalry. The monks and my general followed behind the main force. My light cavalry, however, was set on the eastern hill, and was sent ahead to secure a sword dojo ahead of our position, to supply my army with superior weapons. After this task was complete, they continued forward into the woods, moving slowly to sneak up on the enemy's east flank.

The enemy advanced dead-center through the gully, giving me a massive advantage, as I was now on both of his flanks, on higher ground. My units advanced to the middle of the field far faster than I had anticipated, and as a result, my opponent stopped his advance not two hundred yards from where he entered the gully. Stopping, I assume, to avoid being flanked from the rear, and stopping to keep from marching within range of my archers.

The enemy force was am intimidating one. All well trained warrior monks and samurai, armed mostly with nanigata, though there were two units of katana, and one unit carrying the especially fearsome no-dachi -- a two-handed sword so masssive that it was carried over the shoulder like lumber.

Their bowmen, however, were poorly trained but numerous. Ashigaru bowmen packed in such tight rank that I imagine at least a dozen fell to friendly arrows as they were loosed.

A tense period of what must have been minutes passed like hours. I sent my warrior-monk cavalry farther ahead and to the west, flanking them completely now from both sides -- my force, uphill on their right flank and to the front, a unit of fanatical warrior monks, up hill, on their right flank to the rear, and a unit of light cavalry that they had not spotted, up hill, on their left flank.

Tired of waiting and secure in my own flanks, I sent my archers and gunners, including my general's horse archers, forward, down the hill they were on and on top of another, smaller hill just ahead of them, putting the enemy force in range while still maintaining some slight height advantage.

The enemy had not moved since I took up my position, but I was patient. Despite being led but such a cowardly officer, the opponents forces were well trained and armed, and, as I noticed, had a slight advantage in numbers. The skirmish began, with my archers and gunner peppering theirs. Before long, I ordered them into loose formation, and to instead turn their sights on the enemy's infantry, ignoring the hail of arrows. Luckily, their archers were in fact as poor as I expected. By the end of the battle, I counted only 200 of 1215 soldiers dead or injured from arrows. Meanwhile, my archers counted at least one hundred dead by their hands.

As the skirmish continued, my cavalry charged simultaneously into the enemy flanks. They smashed into the enemy ranks, crushing tens and sending the unit into disarray before immediately retreating, and charging again.

By now, my archers had run out of arrows, and the enemy had suffered serious losses. Their nanigata forces were reduced by at least half, while their no-dachi samurai suffered slightly fewer losses. Regardless, they were, at least, wavering in morale as their general had left the entire force to stand in the arrows without taking action. I began to move my infantry ahead. As they crested the second hill, some of the ashigaru bowmen immediately broke ranks and fled. From their position, now standing where my archers had been, I ordered my infantry to charge.

Now, my opponent had options. He could have moved his bowmen out of the way as he saw my infantry begin to advance before they were in position to charge. This would let him move his infantry forward, and have them counter-charge, removing my advantage. Or, he could have left his bowmen at the front of his ranks, to have them take the brunt of the charge. Instead, he had his infantry charge through the bowmen in front of them to meet mine. As a result, his bloodied yet still entirely dangerous infantry became tangled in the ranks of the bowmen, making them even more vulnerable to the charge.

The clash was merciless. I counted only a handful of casualties, but I didn't let the fight linger. As soon as my infantry hit their ranks, my cavalry had charged from the rear, crushing the enemy between an equine sea of death and a wall of merciless steel.

I wiped out several of his units completely. Of 1215 men, I had lost a total of 435. Of his force of 1350, he lost 1299.

Be back next week w/ another episode of #FF's War Stories

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Politics is about forcibly arranging relations among people

It isn't natural, all this "you go over here, and you do this, and you do that" business.

"Natural" means we all team up in roving bands of no more than 150 members. Hunt and fish all day. Stay in caves on rainy days and draw bulls and horses on the walls and make beer. Bang on some gourds and blow flutes. Until the noise gets on your nerves and you go apeshit and leave to start your own band. (Get it? Your own band?) Nobody says you can't leave and nobody says you shouldn't leave.

Don't tell me that don't sound good.

It does sound good... if one doesn't know any better.

People who bang on about the glories of a "simple life" seem to always forget to mention the massive ignorance that goes with it.

There's no way in hell I could live like that, knowing what I know now. I would drive myself bonkers thinking of all the things I can't do because they require electricity or a class of materials more advanced than bamboo or flint. I would be bored to tears without books of any kind.

People also seem to easily forget just how much easier various technologies make their lives. Electric lighting has brightened our world, banishing the darkness which can hide predators. Toilet paper and clean running water enable us to maintain impeccable levels of personal hygiene and grooming. I dunno about the rest of you, but the very thought of washing myself in cold water with no soap or hair conditioner makes me cringe.

But by far and away perhaps the worst feature of most visions of a "simple life" is that they present a social environment completely inimical to the development of scientific enquiry, which is perhaps the single greatest contributor to genuine human happiness in history.

No, for me a far more compelling vision is that of a vast citadel of diamond among the stars, shining brilliantly with with the wealth and knowledge of its many and varied inhabitants. A beacon of enlightenment and power, a titanic multifaceted gem of culture and life. Humans and their mind-children fertilising the apprently barren soil of the universe with blissfully aware intelligence.

Light, life and mind are precious things. Should we not be endeavouring to ensure that such things become more than just a sub-clause of a footnote of a parenthetical statement, within the greater history of the universe?

[#FF0000]

i wonder what cavemen did about oily hair and dandruff

[ComradeMan]

i wonder what cavemen did about oily hair and dandruff

Actually, if you don't wash your hair for a long enough period it sort of cleans itself so they might not have needed shampoos anyway. We don't know, but they may have used animal fats from their hunting and ashes to make a primitive form of "soap"- pure speculation. They definitely had "ochre" and this too has been used as a body decoration and insect repellent as documented by tribal societies up until our times- whether they used it as such we don't know but it has, I believe, been found in burial remains.

[hatzel]

By the way, old school traditional olive oil soap is tonnes better than that crap they sell in the shops nowadays, with its assorted chemicals and other such nasties. I get mine imported from Syria.

*Bourgeois decadence :cool:*

EDIT: just to clarify, I don't personally import it or anything. One of Bud's buds (see what I did there?) does that bit, and I just buy it from them. Just so we know...

[#FF0000]

Anthropology owns

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Interesting that the focus is on creature comforts, as nice as they are...


Actually, if you don't wash your hair for a long enough period it sort of cleans itself so they might not have needed shampoos anyway.

How does hair clean itself? I find if I don't wash my hair it becomes lank and greasy, my scalp becomes itchy and the skin adjacent to my hair acquires a greater amount of zits. It doesn't feel clean at all.


We don't know, but they may have used animal fats from their hunting and ashes to make a primitive form of "soap"- pure speculation.

The Celts certainly had soap, but they were a lot more advanced than most people give them credit for (I blame Roman propaganda).


They definitely had "ochre" and this too has been used as a body decoration and insect repellent as documented by tribal societies up until our times- whether they used it as such we don't know but it has, I believe, been found in burial remains.

Brown isn't my colour.

[#FF0000]

How does hair clean itself? I find if I don't wash my hair it becomes lank and greasy, my scalp becomes itchy and the skin adjacent to my hair acquires a greater amount of zits. It doesn't feel clean at all.

I read about this somewhere. If you go without a shower long enough your hair sort of just "regulates" how oily it is. :mellow: Can't find anything specific about it but I KNOW I read something on it.

And I think zits in general weren't much of a problem due to diet. Something about carbohydrates and insulin spikes or something.

I really don't know much about what I am talking about.

[hatzel]

Let's not forget that Matthew Parris claims he hasn't washed his hair for about 15 years, and he's not looking bad for it...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45702000/jpg/_45702867_matthew_parris.jpg

[ComradeMan]

How does hair clean itself? I find if I don't wash my hair it becomes lank and greasy, my scalp becomes itchy and the skin adjacent to my hair acquires a greater amount of zits. It doesn't feel clean at all.

Apparently and according to what I have heard you have to leave it for a good while...

Here's something I found too...

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Self-Cleaning-Hair


The Celts certainly had soap, but they were a lot more advanced than most people give them credit for (I blame Roman propaganda).

The Babylonians had something like soap around 2800BCE and the Egyptians had something similar recorded in at least the 6th century BCE. The Romans and Greeks and presumably other Mediterranean peoples also used olive oil to clean themselves.

I don't think the Romans ever described them as dirty, fearsome yes, but dirty no. This idea in general of people being filthy in the past is largely the result of silly portrayals in films and such like. I don't think there's much actual evidence of this.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Apparently and according to what I have heard you have to leave it for a good while...

Here's something I found too...

http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Self-Cleaning-Hair

Interesting. Now all we need are self-cleaning armpits and self-cleaning genitals and Big Toiletry are out of business!

...or not.

[hatzel]

I was thinking that we should all change our user names to things like '#FF1010' or '#FF0101' or '#FF0b0b' and set our display pictures to squares of the appropriate colour, and then run around saying 'ballin'' and 'jelly' and 'welp' and 'lolololol' and 'p. dumb.' Anybody else game?

[#FF0000]

I was thinking that we should all change our user names to things like '#FF1010' or '#FF0101' or '#FF0b0b' and set our display pictures to squares of the appropriate colour, and then run around saying 'ballin'' and 'jelly' and 'welp' and 'lolololol' and 'p. dumb.' Anybody else game?

please do this guys.

[hatzel]

please do this guys.

http://www.dididado.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/happyface.jpg

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/NoXion604/tumblr_lr45dnEgOG1qzkbuxo1_r2_500.gif

Oh Stephen.

[Robert]

please do this guys.

Nah.

[hatzel]

Nah.

http://www.clker.com/cliparts/b/d/f/U/p/W/sad-monkey-face-hi.png

[Robert]

No, no, no.

"Nah" is an FF-ism.

[#FF0000]

hey someone go incite another racist troll invasion please

i just found a gold mine of animal pictures to post

[hatzel]

i just found a gold mine of animal pictures to post

This is a yawning owl:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rBCnYfbs6TU/SbHsMuLfF_I/AAAAAAAABVM/H8y5pSnoS_M/s320/Barbara+-+a+yawn+-+IMG_9907_resize.JPG

End of.

[#FF0000]

Ain't shit compared to what I got.

Not to brag but I think that it is safe to say that whenever racists rear their heads around here, I'm the one that really brings game in the field of pictures of animals

[hatzel]

Ain't shit compared to what I got.

So you don't think it's p. ballin'?

[#FF0000]

nop

[Kitty_Paine]

Ain't shit compared to what I got.

Not to brag but I think that it is safe to say that whenever racists rear their heads around here, I'm the one that really brings game in the field of pictures of animals

:lol: I wouldn't consider having a large amount of animal pictures something to brag about but if it makes you feel like you're worth something by all means...

Is that really how revleft defends itself from racists? :huh:

Someone sounds the alarm, "RACIST! RACIST! These's a racist in the Politics forum! Someone get the hilarious animal pictures and drive this creature back!"

Is that how it goes? :p

How do you deal with fascists?

[#FF0000]

:lol: I wouldn't consider having a large amount of animal pictures something to brag about but if it makes you feel like you're worth something by all means...

Is that really how revleft defends itself from racists? :huh:

Someone sounds the alarm, "RACIST! RACIST! These's a racist in the Politics forum! Someone get the hilarious animal pictures and drive this creature back!"

Is that how it goes? :p

How do you deal with fascists?

I will demonstrate

[#FF0000]

Jews are literally the worst thing and black people are inferior because their skulls are shaped weird or something. Hey, you guys are supposed to be all about tolerance and free speech so why don't you tolerate my dumbness and let me say dumb things all over the place

http://i.imgur.com/rzFRh.jpg

[PhoenixAsh]

kill hate with cuteness :) :)

Throw kittens at it. If it doesn't work use bunnies. If that doesn't work...use puppies. If that doesn't work...there is always the honey badger...honeybadger don't give a fuck.

[Robert]

How do you deal with fascists?

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[#FF0000]

There has to be at least one thread still around from this summer's troll invasion. there just has to be

[Kitty_Paine]

We ignore them and flirt with the ladies.

Know what I mean, jelly bean?

Did you just call me jelly bean? :blink:

...

...

...

[#FF0000]

Did you just call me jelly bean? :blink:

...

...

...

http://i.imgur.com/reHaA.jpg

[Kitty_Paine]

kill hate with cuteness :) :)

Throw kittens at it. If it doesn't work use bunnies. If that doesn't work...use puppies. If that doesn't work...there is always the honey badger...honeybadger don't give a fuck.

So you throw all of these goofy animal pictures at them and eventually they become so overwhelmed they leave? Right? :huh:

Have you ever had such a collection of cute animal pictures that it has turned a racist into a loving, tolerant person?

[Robert]

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[#FF0000]

So you throw all of these goofy animal pictures at them and eventually they become so overwhelmed they leave? Right? :huh:

Have you ever had such a collection of cute animal pictures that it has turned a racist into a loving, tolerant person?

Nope. They just get mad.

[Robert]

That's a good looking goose.

[PhoenixAsh]

So you throw all of these goofy animal pictures at them and eventually they become so overwhelmed they leave? Right? :huh:

Have you ever had such a collection of cute animal pictures that it has turned a racist into a loving, tolerant person?


yes! :)

[Kitty_Paine]

http://i.imgur.com/reHaA.jpg

I literally have no idea how to respond to that... :p

Oh, wait... now I get how it works... :lol:

[PhoenixAsh]

That's a good looking goose.


step.away.from.the.goose


:scared:

[PhoenixAsh]

soooo.....what flavor Jelly Bean are we talking about?

[Kitty_Paine]

That's not a bad word.

What did you call me when all that #$%@*! stuff came up?

No ... don't answer.:(

And I don't feel bad for it... :glare:

[Kitty_Paine]

soooo.....what flavor Jelly Bean are we talking about?

There are no jelly beans here...

shut up! :lol:

[hatzel]

There are no jelly beans here...

Then what exactly do you call these?


http://pixdaus.com/pics/1274595994XBH6Hax.jpg

[Robert]

I'd tell you but ... somebody's mad enough as it is.

on edit: I see a sour apple in there. Really, I do.

[Kitty_Paine]

Then what exactly do you call these?


http://pixdaus.com/pics/1274595994XBH6Hax.jpg

Blah :p

85% of the flavors they have are rancid, and the one's that are okay aren't even worth searching for. Chances are you'll grab a color similar to green apple and really be eating cow manure flavor instead...

But yes, those are jelly beans...

[Kitty_Paine]

I'd tell you but ... somebody's mad enough as it is.

on edit: I see a sour apple in there. Really, I do.

It's not sour apple, it's toddler puke...

Don't you say a word... :glare:

[Robert]

Don't you say a word... :glare:

Whaaa? -- (sputter) -- moi? -- the kid? Well of all the ...

Kitty, you got me all wrong!

[Kitty_Paine]

Whaaa? -- (sputter) -- moi? -- the kid? Well of all the ...

Kitty, you got me all wrong!

Yes toi... the kid... wait... the kid, really? Who calls you the kid? :huh:

Where'd you get that nickname... :p

[Robert]

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[Ose]

Elle m'a tutoyé.:wub:
Mais tu dois la vouvoyer. ;)

[PhoenixAsh]

no idea what that means...too lazy to google translate :D