Communism and Free Love

[SidBh]

What do Communists think about the concept of Free Love?

[o well this is ok I guess]

I'm pretty sure "insurrection" is just a technical term for a mass orgy in the streets.

[GPDP]

I personally don't care much for it, but who am I or anyone else to tell consenting adults how to handle their relationships?

[Lobotomy]

I think most leftists are pretty indifferent when it comes to opinions on other's personal choices.

[thesadmafioso]

I believe Lenin once offhandedly termed it as 'bourgeois' before receiving a very cold response from Inessa Armand (for obvious reasons, she was probably a bit confused with the contradictions there).

I don't have any issue with it, but it isn't something I could really picture myself participating in at the same time.

[Magón]

Just like drugs. Let people do what they want since it's their choice to do so.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I fully support it in every conceivable manner.Everyone should have the right to love as many partners as they need without "morals" weighing down on them.

[Susurrus]

It was very popular in Spain during the revolution, and anarchists generally have a long tradition of supporting it. I personally support it, but also support whatever people are comfortable with.

[Dimitri Molotov]

That is actually really useful that I found this thread, haha, because I guess all along I supported it but I didn't know it was an actual thing until I googled it just now. I would say I support it but I can totally see how it isn't for everyone.

[o well this is ok I guess]

So whoa whoa whoa whoa
Does this mean you guys aren't down for the post-rev orgy?

[SidBh]

I fully support it in every conceivable manner.Everyone should have the right to love as many partners as they need without "morals" weighing down on them.


So if you support the right of anyone to love as many partners as they need, would you also support polygamy? Free love is against marriage and it is the idea of having multiple sexual partners with the mutual consent of all. I am asking about "polygamy" NOT in the context of Islam or any fringe religious groups, but just by its definition of having more than one wife.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

So if you support the right of anyone to love as many partners as they need, would you also support polygamy? Free love is against marriage and it is the idea of having multiple sexual partners with the mutual consent of all. I am asking about "polygamy" NOT in the context of Islam or any fringe religious groups, but just by its definition of having more than one wife.

I don't see what the big deal about ploygamy is so I suppose I do support that,even though it is a form of nuclear family.If someone wants multiple wives/husbands that they should have that right.

[Klaatu]

Free love is OK, but if a pregnancy results, then do the right thing (what your conscience tells you to do; either have the abortion or give birth, and then don't neglect the child))

[Susurrus]

Free love is more polyamory than polygamy.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Free love is more polyamory than polygamy.

Well,in the sense that I understand things Free Love is having sex with anyone you wish inside or outside of marriage while Polygamy is sexual activity within the union of multiple people.I do not think polygamy condones sex outside the individuals you are bound to.

[Susurrus]

Well,in the sense that I understand things Free Love is having sex with anyone you wish inside or outside of marriage while Polygamy is sexual activity within the union of multiple people.I do not think polygamy condones sex outside the individuals you are bound to.

Free love can refer to a libertine attitude towards sex, removing its taboo status, to loving and being in simultaneous relationships as many partners as you like, or to some combination of the two ideas.

[Rusty Shackleford]

It's all about the liberation of the Humpin' Proletariat. Definitely the Bang-erous class.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

"It [communist society] will transform the relations between the sexes into a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene. It can do this since it does away with private property and educates children on a communal basis, and in this way removes the two bases of traditional marriage, the dependence, rooted in private property, of the woman on the man and of the children on the parents." - Engels

"Thus, what we can conjecture at present about the regulation of sex relationships after the impending effacement of capitalist production is, in the main, of a negative character, limited mostly to what will vanish. But what will be added? That will be settled after a new generation has grown up: a generation of men who never in all their lives have had occasion to purchase a woman’s surrender either with money or with any other means of social power, and of women who have never been obliged to surrender to any man out of any consideration other than that of real love, or to refrain from giving themselves to their beloved for fear of the economic consequences. Once such people appear, they will not care a rap about what we today think they should do. They will establish their own practice and their own public opinion, conformable therewith, on the practice of each individual – and that’s the end of it." - Engels

"...the relations between the sexes [will be] a purely private matter which concerns only the persons involved and into which society has no occasion to intervene." - Engels

"The jealous person is in want of a slave; he can be in love, but this love is only a feeling of luxuriating in jealousy; the jealous person is above all a private-property owner." - Marx

[Smyg]

I'll be honestly, I'm a fan of monogamy, in the sense that you stick with one partner at a time. However, I'm a horrible romantic and currently in an essentially single-target-sexuality state, so I'm awfully biased on the subject.

[¿Que?]

I think I read in wikipedia that Engels ultimately argues for some sort of liberated monogamy rather than free love. However, I've never read all of Origin, so I can't say for sure if this is true.

[Rusty Shackleford]

i was getting the feeling he was talking about a liberated monogamy. i did read the whole thing, but i paid more attention to other parts of the book. ill have to re read it sometime then.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Uh... no. He was arguing that the bourgeois family was/is a social form that arose from and corresponds to specific material conditions; that communist society would give rise to other social forms; and that these new social forms would be settled in the communist society itself, by the people who grow up in it.

[Rusty Shackleford]

and thats why some books need to be read twice!

[The Stalinator]

Whatever people are comfortable with is fine.
I personally wouldn't be able to have a free-love relationship, however, I respect other peoples' right to, and I encourage it. It seems better than monogamy.

[Dogs On Acid]

I'm a polygamist when single, and monogamist when in a relationship (unless I'm drunk)

[kitsune]

Whatever sort of personal relationships consenting adults arrange for themselves, free of coercion or exploitation, is nobody's business but their own.