Analysis and development of Greek class struggle

[Искра]

Ok, so I would like to ask for analysis of development of Greek class struggle these days. I hope that somebody has come across something.

Or as I wrote in different topic:


Do you maybe have analysis of "amount" of class struggle and development of it? To explain myself, usually regarding the Greece there were riots caused by police opression (such as the murder of that little boy), but latley there were strikes, ocupations etc. I'm interested in that development and in "political alternatives" of working class movement (for example what does KKE suggests, what do anarchists suggest, Marxists etc.).

[Delenda Carthago]

http://www.tapaidiatisgalarias.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/prel.pdf

http://inter.kke.gr/News/news2011/2011-09-29-info

http://inter.kke.gr/News/news2011/2011-09-12-syllalitirio

http://en.contrainfo.espiv.net/2011/09/30/what-students-say-about-their-attempt-to-break-the-wall-of-silence-on-september-25th-2011/

http://www.international.koel.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=127:about-todays-demonstration-in-syntagma-square-2962011&catid=17:2011-against-imf-eu&Itemid=13

http://www.international.koel.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=123:resolution-of-the-peoples-assembly-to-block-the-access-to-the-parliament-2262011&catid=17:2011-against-imf-eu&Itemid=13

http://www.international.koel.gr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=121:democracy-is-born-in-the-squares&catid=17:2011-against-imf-eu&Itemid=13

I hope these help.

[Искра]

Btw. who are these TGTP? What's their full name? Is this a group? What tendency? Do they have website or something like that?

[Delenda Carthago]

Btw. who are these TGTP? What's their full name? Is this a group? What tendency? Do they have website or something like that?
Ta paidia tis galarias...means the kids on the back of the bus.
They are Left communists, with influences by Theorie Communiste, Roza etc.

[Искра]

Do they have a website? How do they distribute these stuff?

[Delenda Carthago]

Do they have a website? How do they distribute these stuff?
http://www.tapaidiatisgalarias.org (http://www.anonym.to/?http://www.tapaidiatisgalarias.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/prel.pdf)

[Искра]

Thank you. 100 times.

[A Marxist Historian]

Ok, so I would like to ask for analysis of development of Greek class struggle these days. I hope that somebody has come across something.

Or as I wrote in different topic:

I don't really know what's going on in Greece now, since the country is out of the news.

My impression is, and I'd really like to hear comments on this from those who know better than I do, is that the mass protests have come up against a brick wall, because it is clear that the only way they can go forward is to overthrow the government, nothing less would be useful at this point.

And for that, you need a program, leadership, and organization. You need a revolutionary party ready for that which the Greek working class recognizes as their party.

You have the KKE, but they are basically trying to lobby the Greek government to stand up to the other capitalist classes on behalf of Greek interests, especially working class interests. They don't believe in working class revolution led by themselves, right here and now. That just isn't their program.

And, since you don't have that... things are fizzling out, and I would assume that meanwhile there is a lot of thinking and discussing going on.

-M.H.-

[Delenda Carthago]

you have the kke, but they are basically trying to lobby the greek government to stand up to the other capitalist classes on behalf of greek interests, especially working class interests. They don't believe in working class revolution led by themselves, right here and now. That just isn't their program.

lolwhat?

[A Marxist Historian]

lolwhat?

Greece is in a revolutionary situation. The KKE doesn't understand this, and acts as a brake when push comes to shove, thinking that some solution short of a workers revolution in Greece is possible, which it is absolutely not.

Thus the KKE was playing the role of firemen putting out the fire a few months ago when parliament was being ringed by mass rallies, just complaining about how dubious the leaders of those rallies were, as if that should be some sort of surprise.

-M.H.-

[Delenda Carthago]

Greece is in a revolutionary situation. The KKE doesn't understand this, and acts as a brake when push comes to shove, thinking that some solution short of a workers revolution in Greece is possible, which it is absolutely not.

Thus the KKE was playing the role of firemen putting out the fire a few months ago when parliament was being ringed by mass rallies, just complaining about how dubious the leaders of those rallies were, as if that should be some sort of surprise.

-M.H.-
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[A Marxist Historian]

OOVzyXvHa_I

Hey, what can I say.

Like the saying goes, it's all Greek to me.

-M.H.-

[Grenzer]

I agree with MH that the KKE could be doing a hell of a lot more. While it's a bit of a stretch to claim the they are actively trying to prevent revolution, their actions seem restricted to rhetoric mostly. I fear that the EU will bail them out and this entire thing will fade away, for a time.

The prime window of opportunity for action has passed. If they had been more militant during the period of the most brutal police repression, which was a while ago, then they could have spurred the masses on further.