Walter Mondale

[freethinker]

Your opinion of this vice President and Presidential candidate Walter Mondale

Even though he was not "one of us" I admire him for his campaigns against Reaganomics and Christian Theocracy

[Blake's Baby]

I remember the 1984 (or whenever it was) election - my favourite question was 'what's the choice between a conservative and an ultra-conservative?'

A demonstration that no matter who you vote for, the Government always gets in.

Oh, and the beast has many more than 2 heads.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Who is Walter Mondale?

[Blake's Baby]

Who is Walter Mondale?

Seriously?

Some dude who was made of grey. Or if you prefer, gray.

About 30 years ago.

[Per Levy]

i dont know that guy, but then again im not american and neither was alive during his active role in the 70s/80s. one thing, i think, is for sure though, he was not and is not a socialist.

[wunderbar]

Mondale? Not a socialist. I have a little bit of appreciation for John B. Anderson since he realized how fucked up the US electoral system is that he actually tried to do something about it, even if it was just reform.

[KurtFF8]

Mondale? Not a socialist. I have a little bit of appreciation for John B. Anderson since he realized how fucked up the US electoral system is that he actually tried to do something about it, even if it was just reform.

Well if you can't appreciate some reformist things, you'll be stuck with quite a low level of appreciation in general.

[Blake's Baby]

Wasn't aware that our job as communists was to appreciate capitalism.

[Dumb]

It's a booby trap to send you to OI.

[freethinker]

Wasn't aware that our job as communists was to appreciate capitalism.

If Walter Mondale had won in 84 the U.S.S.R would most likely still be standing..

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Marxists-Leninists for Mondale?

[freethinker]

Marxists-Leninists for Mondale?

while so called center left movements are very different from communism they are often perceived as being similar.

Since Ronald Regan, Margret Thatcher and the fall of the U.S.S.R the Conservatives have supremacy in almost every nation in Europe and N America

[wunderbar]

I look forward to the thread on the great people's revolutionary Hubert Humphrey.

[DaringMehring]

If Walter Mondale had won in 84 the U.S.S.R would most likely still be standing..

False, buys into the right-wing myth that "Reagan killed communism."

The USSR collapsed because of its own internal contradictions.

[Blake's Baby]

No no, history is made by great men surely?

Of course, Freethinker is wrong anyway, in that Mondale would never have managed to take David Hasselhof in a fight, so the Hass would still have brought about the collapse of the Stalinist regimes single-handed.

[KurtFF8]

Wasn't aware that our job as communists was to appreciate capitalism.

Well it's not, not sure that anyone is claiming that it's our job.

[Communist]

Moved to Chit Chat.

[Ismail]

Mondale was a right-winger. Not much would have been different. For instance in his campaign he called for the "isolation" of Nicaragua if it continued to "export revolution" to other countries. The only difference is that Mondale argued that Reagan's policy had a good chance of ending up in military conflict between the USA and Nicaragua, whereas Mondale's policy was a more "rational" way of defeating the Sandinistas.

Also "Reaganomics" is generally false anyway. A good read on this is The Illusion of a Conservative Reagan Revolution.

[freethinker]

Mondale was a right-winger. Not much would have been different. For instance in his campaign he called for the "isolation" of Nicaragua if it continued to "export revolution" to other countries. The only difference is that Mondale argued that Reagan's policy had a good chance of ending up in military conflict between the USA and Nicaragua, whereas Mondale's policy was a more "rational" way of defeating the Sandinistas.

Also "Reaganomics" is generally false anyway. A good read on this is The Illusion of a Conservative Reagan Revolution.

Mondale did oppose nuclear armament, but of course we can all agree Reaganomics and Capitalism is a failure, I was just making a point that if Reagan had lost that world would be a little better off.

[Blake's Baby]

I disagree. Capitalism is fucked, it was under Reagan, it would have been under Mondale.

The US bourgeoisie didn't have too many options in the 1980s - oppose the USSR on the world stage and states like Nicaragua and Cuba in their backyard; oppose rogue states like Iran that were breaking from the US bloc; continue Nixon's policy of allying with China. Both Reagan and Mondale would have persued these policies.

Do you think the 'socialists' in power in the 1980s, in France for instance, had a better set of policies for administering national capitalism? What's with the social-democracy love, comrade?

[freethinker]

I disagree. Capitalism is fucked, it was under Reagan, it would have been under Mondale.

The US bourgeoisie didn't have too many options in the 1980s - oppose the USSR on the world stage and states like Nicaragua and Cuba in their backyard; oppose rogue states like Iran that were breaking from the US bloc; continue Nixon's policy of allying with China. Both Reagan and Mondale would have persued these policies.

Do you think the 'socialists' in power in the 1980s, in France for instance, had a better set of policies for administering national capitalism? What's with the social-democracy love, comrade?

I used to be a Social Democrat before I started doing my research...
But to answer your question ... I just hate Reagan's guts and I thought that Mondale would have stopped the cooperates in their tracks..

But agreed it is pointless to invest yourself in the so called "center left"