Workers that support liberalism?

[Le Rouge]

Are there normal people (workers) who supports liberalism? I mean, why a worker would want to not have a minimum wage. How could he want to have to work 12 hours a day 7days/week. How could he want the employer to have the power of firing him immediately without any reason and consequence?

[Veovis]

One of two things:

1. The legacy of 50 years of U.S. anticommunism

2. A genuine belief that if employers aren't allowed to throw workers under the bus, the economy will crash.

[Le Socialiste]

It's been beaten into the minds of the working-class that it's management and the bosses who create jobs and wealth, not the workers themselves. But we don't want the working-class to fight for liberalism - we want them fighting for the class struggle.

[Le Rouge]

So if workers are so brainwashed, there's no other solution than hope a revolution will spark somewhere and change their mind.

[Le Socialiste]

No one's said that. One must be realistic, however, and realize that the spread of class consciousness is, in the case of the American working-class, going to take some time before it can take root in the minds of the average workingman/woman. The lack of revolutionary leftist sympathies and/or knowledge amongst most Americans is due, mostly, to the lack of credible groups and organizations capable of large-scale organizing and propaganda. Our goal, short of a revolution wherein the working-class seizes political and economic power, should be the furtherance of class awareness and solidarity in the minds of American workers. We must maintain an active presence within the working-class while agitating for its mass mobilization against the capitalistic state and all its structural safeguards against workers' liberation and militancy. Of course it will be a struggle, and it will likely be long in coming; but that shouldn't deter us from focusing our efforts on the political and economic emancipation of the working-class.

[Apoi_Viitor]

Is it really that hard to accept the fact that people might have different views than yours?

[Le Socialiste]

Is it really that hard to accept the fact that people might have different views than yours?

Who are you referring to here?

[Apoi_Viitor]

Who are you referring to here?

Le Rouge.

[Le Rouge]

Is it really that hard to accept the fact that people might have different views than yours?

What? nope. I don't give a shit if they support liberalism. It's just that it seems stupid from my perspective.
I was just asking.

[Obs]

What? nope. I don't give a shit if they support liberalism.
well that's a shame

[sickle]

maybe the more democratic/progressive liberalism?

[Ism]

What? nope. I don't give a shit if they support liberalism. It's just that it seems stupid from my perspective.
I was just asking.

I do. I wish they wouldn't. If they didn't, the potential for revolution would be much greater. The bourgeoisie knows that. That's why they keep feeding us all this shit like mindless television, racism and so on. It's not that confusing the working class and dividing it is the goal of every capitalist around, but it is the result of their actions. That's a shame.

Le Socialiste is however right. Trusting large organizations has never been easy because most people associate big organizations with corruption. Corruption is of course not a matter of size but a matter of management structure.

[Ocean Seal]

Because they think that if they slave away hard enough they can become the boss. And sometimes if you're getting laid off, you think that maybe if they lowered the minimum wage you might have a job. Maybe they think that if they got rid of welfare, they'd have a bit more money to themselves. In short material conditions make it reasonable for workers to support liberalism. Also the media is so strongly dominated by the sentiment of capitalism is super great, if it doesn't work for you you're some kind of lazy scumbag. Materialism + propaganda.