Americans Express Historic Negativity Toward U.S. Government

[Red And Black Sabot]

A record-high 81% of Americans are dissatisfied with the way the country is being governed, adding to negativity that has been building over the past 10 years.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/149678/Americans-Express-Historic-Negativity-Toward-Government.aspx

[Winkers Fons]

Obviously this a good thing for anyone who wants to bring about radical change. Unfortunately the far right has a head start in gathering supporters since there seems to be a perception that the current problems are caused by "big government socialism" or some nonsense but I think there will be an opportunity for the left to make some headway once the policies of the tea party are seen for what they really are.

The key for the left right now is to show people that the ones the right call "job creators" are the same people who are dictating polices that hurt the majority of the population. Once people understand exactly who the tea party represents they will finally begin to develop a class consciousness.

The only hard part is getting the message across...

[cb9's_unity]

Congressional job approval is something like 13%. Because the greatest democracy on earth ever consistently lacks the support of almost all of its people.

Two party system is becoming as exposed as its ever been.

[Dumb]

What's really telling is that US citizens don't even support their own representatives. Generally, we see something like 35% approval of Congress as a whole and 60% approval of one's own representative in particular - "Mine's fine! It's the rest who are all bums!" The last poll I saw, however, showed about 38% support for one's own representative.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

What do people think of United Front tactics to oppose Fascism?

If, hypothetically, people support this, then does that not present a conundrum if Obama comes up against a Tea Party candidate next year?

[A Revolutionary Tool]

What do people think of United Front tactics to oppose Fascism?

If, hypothetically, people support this, then does that not present a conundrum if Obama comes up against a Tea Party candidate next year?
Tea Party isn't fascist...

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

They're certainly not the extreme-libertarian right.

[Commissar Rykov]

Tea Party isn't fascist...
They have fascist elements amongst them specifically the American Third Position Party which is part of the organization.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

They have fascist elements amongst them specifically the American Third Position Party which is part of the organization.

Yes I know, I pointed that out in another thread. I don't think it makes the whole thing fascist though, it's like saying Democrats are fascist because the LaRouche group operates within them. The Tea Party itself is so disorganised, decentralised, and broad that it encompasses a wide variety of weirdo wingnuts that don't have a very clear message in the first place other than they hate Obama and socialism.

[RadioRaheem84]

US Tea Party = Chilean Fatherland and Liberty movement.

A popular front is needed to stop them.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

US Tea Party = Chilean Fatherland and Liberty movement.

A popular front is needed to stop them.

Really? And this popular front includes whom? Because I wouldn't tell anyone to vote for Obama even if you had electrodes on my testicles and were about to flip the switch.

[Commissar Rykov]

Yes I know, I pointed that out in another thread. I don't think it makes the whole thing fascist though, it's like saying Democrats are fascist because the LaRouche group operates within them. The Tea Party itself is so disorganised, decentralised, and broad that it encompasses a wide variety of weirdo wingnuts that don't have a very clear message in the first place other than they hate Obama and socialism.
I agree it doesn't make them fascist though it is a disturbing trend. The Tea Party as you said is such a mess I don't think it is a real threat it is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at rebranding the GOP with even more Corporate Funding and willing idiots.

[RadioRaheem84]

Really? And this popular front includes whom? Because I wouldn't tell anyone to vote for Obama even if you had electrodes on my testicles and were about to flip the switch.

Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, Soc Dems and progressives.

And it doesn't translate into supporting Obama.

[Welshy]

Socialists, Communists, Anarchists, Soc Dems and progressives.

And it doesn't translate into supporting Obama.

But what would blocking with people who want preserve capitalism do? Sure we might keep the most ugly part of from power if we were to be successful, but capitalism would still exist and we would probably have to repeat the same shit all over again in future. The only way to get rid people like the Tea Party forever is to get rid of capitalism.

[the last donut of the night]

US Tea Party = Chilean Fatherland and Liberty movement.

A popular front is needed to stop them.

uh oh

[Jose Gracchus]

US Tea Party = Chilean Fatherland and Liberty movement.

A popular front is needed to stop them.

Because the Chilean Popular Front did not demobilize workers' from their cordones industriales with promises of phantom 'participatory democracy' and 'workers' control', disarmed them, and appointed their own executioner as Chief of Staff of the Army, right? ...oh wait...

[Comrade-Z]

Fascism is essentially the mobilization of the middle-class in defense of capitalism in situations where the middle-class perceives a threat to capitalism.

In order to "stop fascism" (whether by a popular front or something else) essentially means either getting the working class to capitulate to a greater extent than it is doing, such that the middle-class no longer feels that capitalism is threatened and so that things can go back to regular bourgeois "democracy," or overthrowing capitalism, the capitalist class, and its middle-class allies.

Standing up against fascism in defense of bourgeois democracy makes absolutely no sense because they are two sides of the same coin. Fascism and bourgeois democracy are not essentially different from one another. Bourgeois democracy is distinguished from fascism to the extent that the capitalist class feels that it is safe and advantageous to give the working class the legal appearance of certain "rights" and whatnot without risking working-class mobilization.

In other words, it is IMPOSSIBLE to achieve a stable (long-lasting) state of both continued capitalism AND high working-class mobilization. The capitalist class will not stand for it, and if you have the power to make them accept it, you also have the power to shove them out of the way altogether.

So either you get rid of working-class mobilization, or you get rid of capitalism. Those are the only two real strategies for "combating fascism."