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Stork
22nd September 2011, 18:36
Hi all, I'm from Scarborough, North Yorkshire and for most of my teenage years I've considered myself a National Socialist. Luckily though, I've been saved and I've come to reject the state and strive for the emancipation of humanity. Only after I've started reading Tucker and Proudhon as well as starting work and seeing the real world and I've looked at how Capitalism exploits us all indiscriminately and how the state imposes its morality onto the masses by means of force. I'm so glad I left before it was too late, luckily I only attended one Nationalist meeting and that was just a dozen losers whining about "the Jews". If anyone knows about anything happening in my area I'd love to here about it.
:star: Solidarity forever :star:
Dumb
22nd September 2011, 23:53
Even better, you can refer to yourself as a leftist now rather than an ex-Nazi. How liberating is that? :D
Chairman Wow
22nd September 2011, 23:57
Welcome, glad to hear you left behind fascism :)
The Stalinator
23rd September 2011, 00:03
No matter where you came from, you're a comrade of ours all the same. Welcome to RevLeft, bro.
Game Girl
23rd September 2011, 00:26
Welcome to Revleft! I'm so glad you abandoned fascism. :)
Susurrus
23rd September 2011, 00:29
Welcome! If you liked Tucker and Proudhon, I would recommend Kropotkin to you.:)
Smyg
23rd September 2011, 09:39
Oh thank god for ex-nazis. If nobody left the movement, there'd be too many of them to icepick.
Welcome.
Stork
23rd September 2011, 13:58
Thanks revleft
Cheif45
23rd September 2011, 18:00
I'm glad you left those dogs, useless animals.
Kornilios Sunshine
23rd September 2011, 18:18
Very good to see that you got rid of this sick and anti-human ideology!Welcome to the future of the world,leftism!
Luc
23rd September 2011, 18:19
One of us! One of us!
lol just kidding, welcome! great to hear you've broken free:)
Delenda Carthago
23rd September 2011, 18:23
Nazism was my first stop at my political journey too. I hear ya...
Nox
23rd September 2011, 18:23
Welcome!
EvilRedGuy
25th September 2011, 20:05
No we don't want you go away.
;)
Экс-фашистских
25th September 2011, 20:09
I'm also an ex-Nazi (hence my name).
It feels good to be here, away from the moronic Right-wing reactionary capitalists who don't know anything about their own ideology.
:thumbup1:
xub3rn00dlex
25th September 2011, 20:12
Welcome to revleft! It will be great to have your input and hopefully your time on this forum can help somewhat strengthen your leftist ideology!
Geiseric
25th September 2011, 20:22
Good thing you turned, we might of had to purge you later on... Kidding! question though, would you be open to a workers state?
Lanky Wanker
25th September 2011, 20:30
One more chicken in the den... *evil laugh*
maskerade
25th September 2011, 20:45
Glad to hear you're an ex-nazi, if only all of them had the sense to leave that despicable movement behind.
Nox
25th September 2011, 20:47
"the Jews".
Aaaaaargh The JEWS!!!! *cringes*
Vladimir Innit Lenin
25th September 2011, 23:19
I'm normally the one who's sceptical about Nazi turncoats, so i'll be keeping a close eye on your posts before I congratulate you and call you a brother/sister.
Tim Cornelis
25th September 2011, 23:33
I'm normally the one who's sceptical about Nazi turncoats, so i'll be keeping a close eye on your posts before I congratulate you and call you a brother/sister.
If they are not sincerely former nazis and, for some reason (can't think of one), want to "infiltrate" a left-wing forum why would they announce they were ever nazis in the first place? What's up with your ungrounded paranoia, comrade?
Dzerzhinsky's Ghost
25th September 2011, 23:55
Quite the introduction, lol, all the same, welcome. Read some Lenin.
eric922
25th September 2011, 23:58
Welcome. Glad you left that failed ideology behind. Oh, and, as an added bonus I think you'll find that unlike Hitler, the leaders of our movements can actually write. I've read Mein Kamph before, I swear he was a terrible writer.
Vladimir Innit Lenin
26th September 2011, 00:19
If they are not sincerely former nazis and, for some reason (can't think of one), want to "infiltrate" a left-wing forum why would they announce they were ever nazis in the first place? What's up with your ungrounded paranoia, comrade?
It's not paranoia, it's just best to be sceptical or at least watchful with these things, to start with.
Smyg
26th September 2011, 07:17
If this hadn't been a forum, and therefore of little point, I'd be paranoid as hell. :D
PhoenixAsh
26th September 2011, 07:26
If they are not sincerely former nazis and, for some reason (can't think of one), want to "infiltrate" a left-wing forum why would they announce they were ever nazis in the first place? What's up with your ungrounded paranoia, comrade?
Aside from the fact that this circumvents the possibility of a group finding out your previous allegience and the problems that will arise from having to explain that post-fact?
Strok is IMO welcome here. And I am happy to hear his story. But I am with Stammer on this for now.
Yazman
26th September 2011, 09:58
I think given the nature of your history as a nazi people who know about such history are going to be a bit skeptical of you at first. You're not required to "prove yourself" to anybody however so try not to feel pressured like that.
Welcome to Revleft.
redtex
26th September 2011, 12:07
A Zen priest once told me that everyone has a different path.
Welcome to the forum friend.
Stork
26th September 2011, 18:47
I told you about my history because it was a huge party of my life way up until like a month ago.
Good thing you turned, we might of had to purge you later on... Kidding! question though, would you be open to a workers state?
A true worker's state would be a vast improvement to what we have now and a possible short-term solution, but if we look at even "mild"/"Friendly" socialist states like the DDR and Cuba they've had oppressive elements equal or worse to what we have now.
OHumanista
26th September 2011, 21:08
I told you about my history because it was a huge party of my life way up until like a month ago.
A true worker's state would be a vast improvement to what we have now and a possible short-term solution, but if we look at even "mild"/"Friendly" socialist states like the DDR and Cuba they've had oppressive elements equal or worse to what we have now.
Welcome comrade, glad you left the nazis. :cool:
As most people here I will recommend Marx(obviously) and Lenin. And as a trotskyist I recommend Trotsky for understanding the russian rev and some of these "socialist states".
And indeed true socialism would be way better than them.
ellipsis
27th September 2011, 16:31
Nazism was my first stop at my political journey too. I hear ya...
I too fell under the sway of such reactionary ideologies as a young man and even up into college to some extent. But as you say, I started to experience the worlds outside of my small town in Vermont. I went from a small town psuedo-skinhead to a Latin American studies major to an serious organizer in a large city.
Its not where you been, its where you're going.
So welcome comrade!
Yazman
1st October 2011, 04:01
I must say too that I think it's pretty cool to have an ex-nazi comrade around, it just means your perspective is very different from most people. I would be deeply interested in hearing your analysis of modern nazism and white nationalism, as well as your views on anti-fascism (if you think we should bother or not, etc)
Stork
1st October 2011, 10:14
I must say too that I think it's pretty cool to have an ex-nazi comrade around, it just means your perspective is very different from most people. I would be deeply interested in hearing your analysis of modern nazism and white nationalism, as well as your views on anti-fascism (if you think we should bother or not, etc)
I tended to stay away from "White nationalism" as I saw it as heresy of the more traditionalist National Socialism. Stormfront-types and David Dukes didn't appeal to me. Most modern nazis disgusted me also, listening to degenerate punk music rather then Wagner and Military marches and drinking themselves stupid, Hitler would be rolling in his grave. As for anti-Fascism I think it can serve an important role to show Class-solidarity, I mean, look at cable street. Obviously these efforts are futile on the people you are picketing against, but the bystanders may be strayed from taking up the armbands and jackboots if they see and anti-fascist counter demo.
Etular
1st October 2011, 12:46
I must admit that I, myself, am a tad sceptical (albeit, welcoming) - not so much because of your former ideology, but because your current "tendency" of Libertarian Socialist seems pretty much the polar opposite of what the Nazi Ideology is; albeit, I'm not here to judge. :lol:
Welcome to RevLeft!
Экс-фашистских
1st October 2011, 21:51
I must say too that I think it's pretty cool to have an ex-nazi comrade around, it just means your perspective is very different from most people. I would be deeply interested in hearing your analysis of modern nazism and white nationalism, as well as your views on anti-fascism (if you think we should bother or not, etc)
I'll give you a hint; many "fascists" don't understand fascism.
Many have said Hitler, Mussolini, Franco were the "true socialists" and "anti-capitalists". Ask them to define socialism, and they'll reply "to love your people". They’re very idiotic bunches who don’t understand economics as thoroughly as we, the radical Left, do.
Susurrus
1st October 2011, 22:01
I'll give you a hint; many "fascists" don't understand fascism.
Many have said Hitler, Mussolini, Franco were the "true socialists" and "anti-capitalists". Ask them to define socialism, and they'll reply "to love your people". They’re very idiotic bunches who don’t understand economics as thoroughly as we, the radical Left, do.
Hitler defined socialism as non-Marxist, in defense of private property, and as an ancient Aryan tradition.:rolleyes:
Stork
1st October 2011, 22:01
I'll give you a hint; many "fascists" don't understand fascism.
Many have said Hitler, Mussolini, Franco were the "true socialists" and "anti-capitalists". Ask them to define socialism, and they'll reply "to love your people". They’re very idiotic bunches who don’t understand economics as thoroughly as we, the radical Left, do.
Very true, but I had an arguably worse definition, I associated Socialism with Government interventionism
Экс-фашистских
2nd October 2011, 00:49
Hitler defined socialism as non-Marxist, in defense of private property, and as an ancient Aryan tradition.:rolleyes:
I haven't heard of a neo-Nazi who knows that.
Very true, but I had an arguably worse definition, I associated Socialism with Government interventionism
Technically all governments support some form of interventionism.
I'd like someone to clear this up, what is the difference between Hitler's interventionism and socialism's interventionism? From what I've seen, it appears Hitler's intervention was to simply help people out of poverty and to ensure that nobody is strangled by "Jewish capitalism" (this is more of a totalitarian feature). Socialism escorts the entire economy, and that explains its interventionism?
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