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Queercommie Girl
22nd September 2011, 18:31
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2011/09/22/dancer-sacked-from-chinese-talent-show-because-shes-transgender/

Dancer sacked from Chinese talent show because she’s transgender

A famous Chinese dancer says she was dropped as a judge on a TV talent show because she is transgender.

Jin Xing, 44, had sex reassignment surgery in 1996. She was booked to appear for eight weeks on Feitong Fanxiang, a show for professional singers.

She told China Daily that the show’s director, Chao Chi-tai, called her personally to say that government officials had demanded for her to be axed from the show.

Jin claimed that Chao, quoting from an official document from culture officials in Zhejiang province, said her “transgender identity could have negative effects on society”.

The dancer says she is not interested in compensation or an apology.

“I’m just angry that the officials used such a lame excuse. It’s a personal attack,” she said.

The Zhejiang province culture department has not commented.

Queercommie Girl
22nd September 2011, 18:37
Reminds me of my trans-girl friend who was sacked from an English-teaching company based in Shanghai simply because she is trans.

Nox
22nd September 2011, 18:41
China is a fascist regime hiding behind the name of Communism.

This article does not surprise me whatsoever.

Queercommie Girl
22nd September 2011, 18:45
Well, to be on the fair side, though homophobia and transphobia are rampant in China, Chinese people are generally not viciously homophobic and transphobic, unlike in many Western and former Soviet countries where gay and trans people are literally murdered by people who really hate them. Partly it's because mainland China today is an atheist country (95% of all PRC citizens self-identify as atheists, according to official statistics) and literal hatred against LGBT people is significantly derived from religious ideologies, e.g. labelling LGBT people as "devils" etc.

So it has to be said that mainland China is really not the worst country to be in if you are LGBT, because at least there is virtually no violent crimes against LGBT people. But of course employment discrimination is absolutely rampant in China, which essentially means that if you are openly LGBT in China, you are most likely never going to be able to get a job.

Nox
22nd September 2011, 18:56
Well, to be on the fair side, though homophobia and transphobia are rampant in China, Chinese people are generally not viciously homophobic and transphobic, unlike in many Western and former Soviet countries where gay and trans people are literally murdered by people who really hate them. Partly it's because mainland China today is an atheist country (95% of all PRC citizens self-identify as atheists, according to official statistics) and literal hatred against LGBT people is significantly derived from religious ideologies, e.g. labelling LGBT people as "devils" etc.

So it has to be said that mainland China is really not the worst country to be in if you are LGBT, because at least there is virtually no violent crimes against LGBT people. But of course employment discrimination is absolutely rampant in China, which essentially means that if you are openly LGBT in China, you are most likely never going to be able to get a job.

I think you'd be surprised. China is generally a very nationalist country, it's almost totally homogenous if you include Uighurs, Manchus, Tibetans, Mongols etc as Chinese, even if you only include Han as Chinese it's still well above 90% homogenous. Foreigners are heavily discriminated against, and although the homophobia might not be as radical as in other places, it is definitely present there.

The planned economy also went out the window a very long time ago; China is just as capitalist as any European country.


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China is the definition of fascism.

Queercommie Girl
22nd September 2011, 19:15
I think you'd be surprised. China is generally a very nationalist country, it's almost totally homogenous if you include Uighurs, Manchus, Tibetans, Mongols etc as Chinese, even if you only include Han as Chinese it's still well above 90% homogenous. Foreigners are heavily discriminated against, and although the homophobia might not be as radical as in other places, it is definitely present there.

The planned economy also went out the window a very long time ago; China is just as capitalist as any European country.



China is the definition of fascism.

I'm not apologising China as it stands now in a general sense, I'm just pointing out that an atheist nationalist country is generally speaking less homophobic and transphobic than a religious or theocratic country.

The planned economy has gone out of the window, but the last remaining positive element of China's old semi-socialist Soviet system - atheism, is still largely there. Though in recent years there has been a growth of Christian fundamentalism and Buddhist cults like Falun Gong in China.

However, technically China today is clearly not "fascist". Fascism is a very specific concept in Marxism, not something that an one-line dictionary definition will do justice. This doesn't mean the current Chinese regime is not reactionary, just that it is not reactionary in the way a fascist state is.

Nox
22nd September 2011, 19:21
I'm not apologising China as it stands now in a general sense, I'm just pointing out that an atheist nationalist country is generally speaking less homophobic and transphobic than a religious or theocratic country.

The planned economy has gone out of the window, but the last remaining positive element of China's old semi-socialist Soviet system - atheism, is still largely there. Though in recent years there has been a growth of Christian fundamentalism and Buddhist cults like Falun Gong in China.

However, technically China today is clearly not "fascist". Fascism is a very specific concept in Marxism, not something that an one-line dictionary definition will do justice. This doesn't mean the current Chinese regime is not reactionary, just that it is not reactionary in the way a fascist state is.

I must have misunderstood you.

I agree that religious societies are more homophobic, I'm just saying that judging by the current state of China I'm not surprised that homophobia is on the rise.