2 Worst US SC Justices: Innocence no Reason to Overturn Convictions/Death Sentences

[MattShizzle]

Scalia and Thomas. Fucking fascists.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2009/08/17/56525/scalia-actual-innocence/


This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is “actually” innocent. Quite to the contrary, we have repeatedly left that question unresolved, while expressing considerable doubt that any claim based on alleged “actual innocence” is constitutionally cognizable.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

This is nothing new, it's a POV that has been around for years, as fucking abhorrent as it is.

[MattShizzle]

The idea it's OK if some people get executed by accident has been around. These guys are saying even if you can prove a particular person is innocent he or she should still be executed. That's fascism.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

No, it's not fascism.

[eric922]

Scalia and Thomas are scum, that's for sure and they are firmly in the pockets of big money as their ruling on Citizens United showed.

[MarxSchmarx]

I hate to say it but they are probably right. Yet it only exposes the US constitution for being of marginal use to the project of human liberation.

[Veovis]

I hate to say it but they are probably right. Yet it only exposes the US constitution for being of marginal use to the project of human liberation.

Sometimes I feel like there must be more people in this country who believe the constitution to be infallible than even the Bible. :bored:

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

The Supreme Court decision was unanimous, with the "liberal" justices voting the same as the "conservative" ones. Once again the capitalist state has been shown for what is, with the different representative wings of capital planted firmly on the same vulture.

[Red Commissar]

I think it's even more inconsiderate when you consider that Clarence Thomas, himself raised in a poor, black community in Georgia has seemingly been untouched by that experience. In another world, he could have easily become the victim of a broken 'justice' system as Davis and many others have been.


The Supreme Court decision was unanimous, with the "liberal" justices voting the same as the "conservative" ones. Once again the capitalist state has been shown for what is, with the different representative wings of capital planted firmly on the same vulture.

This is pretty much what I've been pointing out to the liberal apologists for Obama. One of their points is that progressive must support Obama a because of the "Supreme Court". I wonder if they still feel the same considering how that establishment- even with two Obama appointees- reacted the same towards this case.

[Philosopher Jay]

Please note that Thomas was raised by his rich grandfather. It was his Roman Catholic grandfather, Myers Anderson, who taught him to hate poor black people. He called his grandfather, "The greatest man I have ever known." His memoir is called "My grandfather's son." Anderson beat Thomas and probably sexually abused him. That is probably what caused Thomas' obvious insanity.

Actually, all the other justices voted against Thomas and Scalia, thus showing how important it is for basic human rights to elect Obama in 2012.


I think it's even more inconsiderate when you consider that Clarence Thomas, himself raised in a poor, black community in Georgia has seemingly been untouched by that experience. In another world, he could have easily become the victim of a broken 'justice' system as Davis and many others have been.



This is pretty much what I've been pointing out to the liberal apologists for Obama. One of their points is that progressive must support Obama a because of the "Supreme Court". I wonder if they still feel the same considering how that establishment- even with two Obama appointees- reacted the same towards this case.

[Dumb]

This is pretty much what I've been pointing out to the liberal apologists for Obama. One of their points is that progressive must support Obama a because of the "Supreme Court". I wonder if they still feel the same considering how that establishment- even with two Obama appointees- reacted the same towards this case.

I'd also like to point out that we have Bill Clinton to thank for stopping Troy Davis from presenting much of his evidence in court. Clinton passed the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, which restricts the kind of evidence a death row inmate can present at appeal; thanks to this law, much of Davis' evidence was considered subject to procedural default (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procedural_default).