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PhoenixAsh
21st September 2011, 17:55
The German Neo-nazi group NHG (Hilfsorganisation für nationale politische Gefangene und deren Angehörige e.V.) has been banned in Germany.

The organisation had about 600 members, considered one of the larger Neo-nazi groups in Germany, and focussed on providing ideological aid to right-wing and nationalist "political" prisoners in the form of propaganda material and penpal friendships in order to keep them on the "right" political path. The organisation also offered this kind of aid to non-political prisoners in order to recruit them and persuade them towards right-wing extremism.

The organisations main objective was to try and glue the splintered right-wing movements back together and create more cohesion amongst the extreme right.

The decision to ban the organisation was made on several grounds:

1). The organisation operates against the lawstate
2). The organisation idolizes National-Socialism and Adolf Hitler
3). Inciting racial hatred

In 2010 a nation wide raid was organisaed against the organisation and the hosues and buildings belonging to the organisation and its members were searched.



Personally I will not shed a tear about this. But the first reason is a two edged knife. In Germany organisations who operate against the lawstate are often forbidden. This includes communist and left-wing revolutionary organisations...

RevoTO
21st September 2011, 18:08
Have any left wing/revolutionary groups been banned in germany?

PhoenixAsh
21st September 2011, 18:34
In west Germany the KPD was banned because of th same law which requires parties to be supportive of the democratic framework of Germany. So a party needs to embrace the democratic framework in order to avoid a possible ban.

After the unification there was talk of banning the SED

El Louton
21st September 2011, 18:38
If only they banned the English Defence League in the UK!

Sasha
21st September 2011, 18:41
I think several organisations linked to groups like the raf and the pkk are banned in germany

Q
21st September 2011, 18:41
Personally I will not shed a tear about this. But the first reason is a two edged knife. In Germany organisations who operate against the lawstate are often forbidden. This includes communist and left-wing revolutionary organisations...


In west Germany the KPD was banned because of th same law which requires parties to be supportive of the democratic framework of Germany. So a party needs to embrace the democratic framework in order to avoid a possible ban.

After the unification there was talk of banning the SED

And this is exactly why communists don't call for state bans on far right groups. If we fight fascists, we do so ourselves, as a workers movement. Likewise, if fascists attack us, we organise our defenses and do not rely on the police to protect us. But any state bans can and will be used against us. Far more so than against the far right.

TheGodlessUtopian
21st September 2011, 18:41
Cannot say I approve of them banning every opposition party but at the same time I cannot really condemn their banning of the neo-nazi group.I suppose it is give and take;Germany operates on a police level state to maintain its balance, yet this very method is what might lead to violence in the future and is what restricts left-wing activity.

Over all: Good, though still very bittersweet.

PhoenixAsh
21st September 2011, 18:57
The concept is that of radical democracy. Liberal Democracies protect themselves from being overturned through democratic process to avoid a repeat of what happened in Germany in the 30's. This law extends to all parties of all tendencies and ideologies which do not accept the liberal democratic process and a lot of
countries do this in Europe.