What class where you born into.

[Yuppie Grinder]

Proletariot
Petty Bourgeoisie
Bourgeoisie

[CommunityBeliever]

I think if you put "what class are you" instead, that probably wouldn't change the results of the poll very much.

[Smyg]

I've never heard of this "proletariot".

[Yuppie Grinder]

I've never heard of this "proletariot".
have you heard of shitty spelling

[Smyg]

Indeed, I believe I have.

[Nox]

Well, my parents are divorced. My father's side is certainly Petit-Bourgeoisie, my mother's side is proletariat.

[citizen of industry]

I was born petty bourgeoisie but in my early childhood the family business failed and my parents filed for bankruptcy. For a couple years they didn't have a place to live so we stayed with a wealthy relative. So in those two years (I was 5 years old) I experienced a bit of the bourgeoisie lifestyle. Then they got a job/place and I grew up proletariat, in the ghetto. They worked their way back up to petty bourgeoisie by the time I was in high school and bought a house. Now they're retired and live modestly. I've been prole since I moved out at 18, and most of the time before that.

Tough question to answer.

[BIG BROTHER]

fuck you folks! were is peasant on this? :P

My mom is a peasant and my dad was a petty-bourgeoisie or some sort of "middle class"

[Smyg]

Very tough to answer. My parents are both rather impoverished academics, with the maternal side being nothing but factory workers and other "lowly" labourers, and the paternal side is modestly well-off peasantry, so to speak.

[Zav]

I was born into a proletarian family. My father owned a business when I was younger, but it closed, and I never had any part of it.

[Jimmie Higgins]

My parents were both workers active in their unions though Democrats in politics.

[socialistjustin]

Born into a proletariat family. They both worked for general dynamics and then got laid off. Apparently my dad thought the union was stupid and didnt get involved with them.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Feudal aristocracy.

No but seriously, probably petite bourgeoisie. Although my industry is a bit unique in that we're all a bit more dependent on the real bourgeoisie than most of the petite bourgeoisie. This was pretty evident in some of the labor actions over the last decade or two in my industry.

[Ostrinski]

My mom worked at various restaurants and factories after I was born, but now she is a social worker and works for the government. So born proletariat and petite-bourgeoisie now I guess.

[W1N5T0N]

:laugh: this thread is so strange...
I'm sorry, but for me, these concepts of "prole" and "Bourgeois", used as insults on either side, seem like social constructs. What about "were your parents good people?" or "were you raised with good values?" Whether you were born prole or bourg is pretty irrelevant...it matters what you make of it.
:p

[Ostrinski]

I'm not sure that the thread's purpose is to attach any importance to it, just to get a general idea.

[OHumanista]

Born with proletarian parents, mom worked on factories, dad was a union activist. Later we managed to rise to petty bourgeoisie, and things changed quite a bit, but the ideals remain the same.

[Collectorgeneral]

Petite bourgeoisie

My father left the family when I was four years old and my mother is the head of a rather successful business, though I resent her for it it has it's advantages.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Petty bourgeoisie.

I have been firmly proletarian for a number of years though, due to various factors.

[Lenina Rosenweg]

Both my parents are feudal landlords. We have about 500 serfs working for us (I can't be sure of the exact number, I think we are under quota at the moment). We also have about 3,000 local peasants who are required to work for us on corvee labor, repairing dams, building roads, and stuff like that.

My Dad sometimes goes out on military campaigns for our king and brings free peasants and a few serfs with him. He's usually away for years at a time.

There are rumours of a class of runaway serfs, hiding out in the big city trying to start businesses, sometimes involving something called "cash", a ridiculous substitute for gold and silver. Obviously they will never amount to anything. Money lending and usury are forbidden in our Holy Books.

[StoneFrog]

My dad fixes forklifts, im sure those forkliftists think thats a real proletariat job.

[maskerade]

Well, when I was born my family was just getting off welfare; my dad got a job as a construction worker while being a part-time student and my mom worked at a kindergarten. Now my dad runs multiple Forbes 500 companies and likes to spoil me with fancy yachts, but don't let that fool you, I always keep a copy of Das Kapital in the glove compartment of my Ferrari.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

Prole Pride World Wide.

I was born into a working class family on both sides and it pretty much goes down the line.

[GPDP]

This one's a bit tough for me to answer. Technically, I suppose I was born a petit-bourgeois, since my dad was a doctor with his own office (small though it was), and he and my mom ran two pharmacies. However, this was in Mexico, so our living standards were not terribly high, though far better than the people around us to be sure.

Then the crash of '94 happened, and we had to close one of the pharmacies. My dad ended up having to come here to the states to work under my wealthy then-uncle as an optometrist, but he got paid shit wages for his work. We later left Mexico and joined him here, so at that point we were sorta proletariat.

We lived in my aunt's house for a good number of years, but once she and my uncle divorced, he spitefully fired my father (not like he made a very livable wage anyway). We then took to buying and selling cars, and then computers at the flea market. We made barely enough to feed ourselves at this point.

Business began to improve a bit, so we moved out of my aunt's and into our own place. By this time we had a warehouse full of computer equipment, and we began selling in wholesale quantities. I suppose by this point we're back to petit-bourgeois, though the majority of the work is done by ourselves. I work under my dad, but I get no real wage to speak of (I make my own money through other means, usually fixing computers). I suppose that kind of makes me slave or hyper-exploited labor? :D

[Threetune]

I am from the ‘we don’t answer you stupid questions class’. Why do you want to know? Who are you?

[o well this is ok I guess]

Does revleft ever have prolier-than-thou fights?

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I am from the ‘we don’t answer you stupid questions class’. Why do you want to know? Who are you?

So I take it you're preaching your hardman Marxism-Leninism from your Apple Mac, then?

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

Does revleft ever have prolier-than-thou fights?

We could intiate one?

[Revolution starts with U]

Born in a trailer park. Mother was unemployed, my father a factory floor worker. He worked hard (6days a week 12hr days) and did everything right... and lost his job when they moved the factory to China :rolleyes:
My mom went into tremendous debt to put herself through school and is now a manager at a trade school.

[RedAnarchist]

My dad has been a postal worker for nearly 40 years, and my mother had various jobs, including cleaner, working at a tongue factory and even at a cotton mill at one time.

[Pretty Flaco]

When we moved to the states (almost 15 years ago) we lived in a trailer park. My dad worked in a factory and my mom stayed home; i have 5 brothers and sisters. My dad got his associates degree recently and he works as a bank teller now. My mom is working on her associates degree in biochemistry or something like that and she currently is an intern (paid!!!) for some chemistry company. Her job revolves around studying samples.

I used to think my dad's job sounded super fancy and high class, but he's basically a cashier wearing nicer clothes who talks to the costumers more. He's also experienced a robbery once, which he said was some scary shit. My mom's internship is really cool sounding. The facility is nice and she gets paid a little bit over minimum wage, which is really nice for us right now, that supplemental income.

[Yuppie Grinder]

I am from the ‘we don’t answer you stupid questions class’. Why do you want to know? Who are you?
curiosity

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Dad worked installing and repairing heating and air conditioning units for like 21 years before he got laid off and went to jail a few times. Now he does a lot of odd jobs to get by. My mom has been a accountant, a UPS worker, a waitress, and now she's a lunchlady at a elementary school. My step-dad transports plumbing equipment all around Northern California and does something for the National Guard(used to patrol the border with them) and used to be a prison guard. I fucking hate my stepdad...

[Rusty Shackleford]

Bourgeoisie.

Dad was a Colonel in the US Army, now runs a PMC.
Mom is the head of a legal firm that defends businesses in labor disputes.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Bourgeoisie.

Dad was a Colonel in the US Army, now runs a PMC.
Mom is the head of a legal firm that defends businesses in labor disputes. I imagine things can get pretty awkward with your folks.

[Dimmu]

petty bourgeoisie for me. Both of my parents have an academic education and both o them are/were conservatives. Then we tasted the bitter taste of life when both of my father and my other were fired from their jobs.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I imagine things can get pretty awkward with your folks.
i dont even know where to begin

[Stynx]

Most of the people who believe in socialism are bourgeoisie but I'm born in petite bourgeoisie class family. What I search through this economical or social system is the classless within the people. No more family CEO or anything. You work for what you deserve!

[Tim Cornelis]

Prole Pride World Wide.

I was born into a working class family on both sides and it pretty much goes down the line.

You are proud to be a proletarian because you was born as one?
Being proud of your social class makes no sense since you want to abolish it, I presume at least.

(or maybe I'm taking you too serious).

[La Comédie Noire]

Prole as eff. Mom was a nurse, dad is a public reservoir worker.

[Admiral Swagmeister G-Funk]

My mum's worked in several jobs, as an admin, as a bar worker, for the tax office. My dad's an art lecturer and teacher by profession and he's had some good work and some very bad.

Prole I guess, even though art lecturers can make a comfortable income. My dad's never exploited anyone's labour power though.

[Tim Finnegan]

That tricky lower-professional stratum that is sure to start a ferocious war every time anybody attempts to assign it to a particular class.

[Stand Your Ground]

I'm gonna say proletariet? Before my parents got divorced they both had jobs and weren't making millions but we had enough so that we could have our own house, 2 cars and pretty basic, average stuff. Then after the divorce my mom lost the house, and went to various apartments, my dad owns his own house now.

[Zukunftsmusik]

My father's an architect, but he's one of some seven owners (or something) of the company. My mother works in municipal bureaucracy. To explain it easily, she says yes or no to people with handicaps who seek help of some sort.

I'm not sure what class this makes me. But mentally speaking my parents are rather bourgeoisie-like. I've lived all my life in the same, quite small apartment, but they have always dreamed about moving to a bigger house with a big garden and blah blah. This actually annoys me.

[The Stalinator]

My mom and dad both work in a shitty office. I think my dad was a boss once, but he isn't anymore, and we don't have too much money, but we can afford nice stuff once in a while.

I dunno what that makes me.

[Rooster]

Geography.

[Magón]

Peasant on one side, Urban Proletariat on the other.

[eyeheartlenin]

My father, after serving as a Marine in WW2, drove a truck for a living, and my mother worked as a secretary in an office. All my relatives in the South, where we're from, were impoverished working people. One of my uncles was a militant member of the IAM (machinists' union), and another uncle worked in a foundry. Both my aunts worked, one of them in a factory making jeans, and the other, in a hospital. (I have a distant ancestor who had farmed in Tennessee, where we are from. We are very proud of him because, one day, he took a wagon down the mountain where he lived and sold cabbages to the Union Army, which had just won a battle against the slaveholders' army.) The best I can figure out, I come from the US working class.

By the way, I love Lenina R's post. She has her reputation and rep power hidden, so as not to intimidate the rest of us, but then she claims descent from feudal landowners. It is the funniest thing I have read this week! Thanks again, LR!!

[smk]

Bourgeoisie/feudal landlord. srs.

parent came from thirdworld country where his family, to this day, owns a village. currently my parents are both small-medium sized business owners.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

(or maybe I'm taking you too serious).

Yeah, you're taking me to seriously.

[the last donut of the night]

hunter-gatherer parents. life's pretty chill

[xub3rn00dlex]

My dad's a job site supervisor, and my mom is a deli manager. Neither one of them own the company they work for, nor have the power to fire other coworkers. I would say their bosses do take their opinions into account and highly value them though. Don't really know what class that makes them. We immigrated to the US with $300 back in 1994. Today they pay the mortgage on a house that we technically shouldn't be able to afford.

Me, I'm part of the leeching class, since I leech off my parents! :D

[grok]

Many of us born in the postwar West do not have a simple answer to this 3-part poll. I could simply say that my father was a bureaucrat and my mother a homemaker; but this would totally overlook the context of the time and place I was born into. I grew up in a VERY working-class town, in the most working-class part of it. As a small child I lived in a very different place for a few years than where I was born, and you could almost say it was Midwest suburban almost. Almost. I grew up among East- and South-european laborers, many of whom had been born peasants -- like 3 of my 4 grandparents: who were either industrial laborers or small business-people in North America. There was pressure on me to enter the petit-bourgeois universe of the servants of Capital -- but I chose instead to stay loyal to my proletarian roots. And I never looked back, never regretted the decision.

[Cencus]

My old man was a Quantity surveyor (aka brick counter) but buggered off when I was about 8 n then married the site secretary a few years later (cliche or what). My mum was a secretary until she retired last year.

[Summerspeaker]

My family is certainly middle class culturally. My dad worked as a well-paid technical professional (statistician or programmer) while my mom didn't work too much until after I left home. They never owned the means of production and thus may not strictly count as a petit bourgeois.

[Fopeos]

Both parents were factory workers. I graduated highschool and went to work in a factory. Now, as a thirty-something, class-conscious, commie-worker, i find myself in college. (all our factories have moved south)

[Delenda Carthago]

My daddy is a drug lord of the Balkans and my moms is a singer/ luxury whore. We are like a Kusturica movie, golden necklesess and AKs in a slum village. It pays the bills I guess.

http://www.inalonelyplace.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/black-cat-white-cat.jpg

[MarxSchmarx]

where is the lumpen option?

[EvilRedGuy]

Funny thing is, most Communist theorists have always been Bourgeois, Lumpen, or a combination of both while workers were always those revolutionaries who follow them. Class interests dosen't matter all the time.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

Funny thing is, most Communist theorists have always been Bourgeois, Lumpen, or a combination of both while workers were always those revolutionaries who follow them.How did that work out?

Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavril_Myasnikov

[black magick hustla]

Funny thing is, most Communist theorists have always been Bourgeois, Lumpen, or a combination of both while workers were always those revolutionaries who follow them. Class interests dosen't matter all the time.

i think this is a misconception. especially today

[Zukunftsmusik]

What is petit(e)/petty (is ther a difference or just different spellings?) bourgeoisie, exactly?

[RadioRaheem84]

Prole to the max. Debt finance brought my family into some sort of middle class existence but that is taking it's toll.

The situation is bordering on peasant for some in the States though. Urban peasant, living or scounging day by day.

[Rooster]

What is petit(e)/petty (is ther a difference or just different spellings?) bourgeoisie, exactly?

Petite is the French word for small (in the feminine form because "bourgeois" is feminine [I think so anyway]) and petty is just the Anglicised (English) version of petite. They're pronounced more or less the same way.

[Zukunftsmusik]

I know what petite means, but i wasn't sure what petty was. So thanks. But what is it?!

[Smyg]

Småborgare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petite_bourgeoisie

[danyboy27]

I come from a family of lumpenproletariat. my parents used to work but stopped when they decided to have kids. It wasnt easy; not much money, wearing the clothes your stupid bigot neighbor gave to your family in order to smug you later, eating peanut butter sandwich the last week of the month and the steady stream of pity and hatred coming from everyone in town, it really sucked.

On the bright side i learned how to fix simple electrics devices, how to get cheap furnitures, cheap foods, how to cook for an army of folks, and i also learned that working was an important part of someone life. I also learned that the governement was an abject entity controlled by big buisness and the importance of question authority figures.