Bush's arrogance

[Marxist in Nebraska]

The demonstrations during last winter were an amazing show of organized opposition to the U.S. government. These rebellions were the most dramatic since Vietnam. A big reason for the mass resentment was the way "Thief-in-Chief" George W. Bush went about starting the war in Iraq.

There is a feeling that Bush's arrogance may continue to push people to activism. His arrogant Cowboy demeanor certainly pisses a lot people off. There are grumblings for his impeachment even in some rather weak liberal circles. I even heard a caller on C-Span say, "I'm a Republican, and I voted for George Bush, but now I want him impeached."

Will he continue to be more and more hated? How big will the demonstrations be when Bush starts beating the war drums next?

Comparisons are already being drawn between Bush and President Nixon, who had to resign at a time of massive protests against the Vietnam War. Some have even speculated that the ruling class had to cut Nixon loose to prevent a rebellion. Sadly, when Nixon resigned and Gerald Ford became president, the heat wore off.

Will Bush see the same degree of opposition that Nixon did? Do you think he will be impeached, or driven to resign? Can we keep the heat on the executive branch even if a lightning rod like Bush is no longer there? What do you think?

[Al Creed]

Nixon didnt resign because of Vietnam. In fact, Nixon ended Vietnam. Nixon resigned over the Watergate Scandal.

The simularity I see is between Bush and Lyndon Johnson.

-Both are abrasive Texans
-Both saw the US as a World Police Force
-Both involved themselves in Global conflict in which they had no justafiable reason for
-Both did more harm than help in the nations they invaded
-Both do not take criticism to their policies well, esecially from Canada (Lester B Pearson criticized US Military policy in Philly, 1965. Upon hearing this, LBJ went apeshit, and when meeting Pearson, LBJ grabbed him by the shirt, and screamed "YOU PEED ON MY RUG!")

I will support any form of revolution within the US. The Republican Parties (as the Republicans and the Democrats spawned from the same party) must be destroyed.

[Marxist in Nebraska]

I apologize for not writing my initial post as clearly as I liked. Nixon did initially try to continue the Vietnam War, and he did expand the war into Cambodia. I was thinking about Nixon's lies about Southeast Asia and the uproar it caused, and today with Bush's lies to push his war agenda in Iraq.

The bigger connection between Bush and Nixon is the amount of secrecy and lying. Either man would make a great dictator in a police state.

I have never heard Bush and Johnson compared that way. That is interesting.

By the way, Vietnam didn't "end" until 1975 with the fall of Saigon. The U.S. supported the Saigon regime until the very end, and at the end Gerald Ford was president. Nixon got the large number of American soldiers out of Vietnam, but he did not end U.S. involvement there.

[Al Creed]

I too must appologize for my vagueness.

I meant that Nixon pulled the majority of soldiers from Vietnam, my bad:$

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Marxist in [email protected] 28 2003, 11:30 PM
There is a feeling that Bush's arrogance may continue to push people to activism. His arrogant Cowboy demeanor certainly pisses a lot people off. There are grumblings for his impeachment even in some rather weak liberal circles. I even heard a caller on C-Span say, "I'm a Republican, and I voted for George Bush, but now I want him impeached."

Will he continue to be more and more hated? How big will the demonstrations be when Bush starts beating the war drums next?

Comparisons are already being drawn between Bush and President Nixon, who had to resign at a time of massive protests against the Vietnam War. Some have even speculated that the ruling class had to cut Nixon loose to prevent a rebellion. Sadly, when Nixon resigned and Gerald Ford became president, the heat wore off.

Will Bush see the same degree of opposition that Nixon did? Do you think he will be impeached, or driven to resign? Can we keep the heat on the executive branch even if a lightning rod like Bush is no longer there? What do you think?
His arrogance shows no sign of stopping or even slowing down. Any approach of more war drums will enrage the people to a new level. Personally I will be screaming in the street and handing out pamplets, organizing, ploting... Impeachment seems to be a lost cause to many. They would rather focus on the next election. I see this as a big mistake, in pratice and in social example.
"Will he continue to be more and more hated?" if I have anything to say about it, yes! I see a rise in resistance toward the administration. If we can only bring it to action, we will make progress. I can see why, at some point, many rats in the ruling class, would like to jump off this sinking ship and I can understand those comparisons to bush, also this one:

http://www.whiterosejournal.info/images/reichstag_fire__september_11.jpg

[Marxist in Nebraska]

Originally posted by 313C7 [email protected] 30 2003, 11:04 AM
His arrogance shows no sign of stopping or even slowing down. Any approach of more war drums will enrage the people to a new level. [...] Impeachment seems to be a lost cause to many. They would rather focus on the next election. I see this as a big mistake, in pratice and in social example.
First of all, that is a great comic. Where did you find it?

I agree that Bush's arrogance knows no limit. I do not think he will ever be separated from his arrogance. The question will be whether the Republicans defend him or let him fall.

I agree that if he pushes for another war like Iraq in the same unilateral, smug way, I do expect to see another huge series of protests.

"Personally I will be screaming in the street and handing out pamplets, organizing, ploting..."

And I will be shoulder-to-shoulder with you, as you know...

I am also disappointed with those who do not want to press the impeachment question, for the same reasons you gave. Too many liberals in this country defer to him like he is a king, and do not like to even criticize him severely. They are too hung up on being "patriotic."

"I can see why, at some point, many rats in the ruling class, would like to jump off this sinking ship [...]"

Indeed. As I wrote above, the ruling class had to abandon Nixon. RavenFan talked about Lyndon Johnson. LBJ had to be abandoned, though he was the incumbent president. He did not even seek re-election. The question is, once Nixon resigns and Ford becomes president, how do we keep the people's resentment up... how do we keep the heat on Ford?

[Elect Marx]

Originally posted by Marxist in [email protected] 30 2003, 05:42 PM
First of all, that is a great comic. Where did you find it?

The question will be whether the Republicans defend him or let him fall.

[liberals] are too hung up on being "patriotic."

The question is, once Nixon resigns and Ford becomes president, how do we keep the people's resentment up... how do we keep the heat on Ford?
I found that comic while looking through some great stuff at Bush-Hitler links (http://falloutshelternews.com/BushHitlerLinks.html), specifically Bush-Hitler, Burning (http://www.whiterosejournal.info/sanchez.htm).

I see some parting of the republicans already. Those that see Bush's polls falling, are getting out more and more. I don't know how long this will take or how many will cling to him till the end. I think there will be two groups, those that obstain from supporting Bush and those that viamately support him, with contiually less justification. I'm hoping the captain goes down with the ship.

Yes, liberals...need to stand up and oppose the person that stands for the injustices they despise, any other action is foolish.

I see the important issue to be (if we impeach Bush) showing that the administration was chosen by Bush (shouldn't be hard), supported Bush (is obvious) and is as responsible as Bush (also obvious). Impeach the illegitimate Bush administration! Put those terroists in jail! In Iraq!