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Intifada
28th October 2003, 16:09
after the attacks in iraq, yesterday, on the red cross, kofi annan said that these attacks were: "an attack against humanity".

what about the UN sanctions that were imposed on iraq? were they not "attacks against humanity"???

Tevya The Dairyman
28th October 2003, 17:39
And what about the bombs who were droped on the masses of Afghanistan? or the inecnt people of Iraq who were shot by the yankee's GIs, or the whole incident of Hirushima?
All this attacks didn't have a tinch of humanity in them, and showed the true face of US's imperialist government!

Intifada
28th October 2003, 18:46
EXACTLY!

Intifada
28th October 2003, 18:48
AND THA SAD THING IS THAT KOFI ANNAN AND EVERY NATION IN THA WORLD DIDNT GIVE ONE SQUIRT OF PISS!!! :angry:

ComradeRobertRiley
28th October 2003, 19:29
Yankee bastards. Killing innocent people all the time.

"Just this morning I saw a US soldier beat an Iraqi man in the street. Some time ago in Kadhimiya I saw a man being shot three times just because he was standing and staring at the soldiers. We ran away so I don't know what happened to him.

"We want to live in peace," she says. "Why this harsh treatment? It is like Saddam

Source: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3215137.stm)

Dr. Rosenpenis
28th October 2003, 20:06
It damn well pisses me off!
It pisses me off even more the fact that their not spending a penny of the billions wasted on Iraq in rebuilding their infrastructure I'm sure.

Hawker
28th October 2003, 23:01
Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 08:29 PM
Yankee bastards. Killing innocent people all the time.

"Just this morning I saw a US soldier beat an Iraqi man in the street. Some time ago in Kadhimiya I saw a man being shot three times just because he was standing and staring at the soldiers. We ran away so I don't know what happened to him.

"We want to live in peace," she says. "Why this harsh treatment? It is like Saddam

Source: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3215137.stm)
Wrong comrade.The soldiers treatment of the people are far more worst then Saddams.

Dr. Rosenpenis
29th October 2003, 02:01
Originally posted by Hawker+Oct 28 2003, 07:01 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hawker @ Oct 28 2003, 07:01 PM)
[email protected] 28 2003, 08:29 PM
Yankee bastards. Killing innocent people all the time.

"Just this morning I saw a US soldier beat an Iraqi man in the street. Some time ago in Kadhimiya I saw a man being shot three times just because he was standing and staring at the soldiers. We ran away so I don&#39;t know what happened to him.

"We want to live in peace," she says. "Why this harsh treatment? It is like Saddam

Source: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3215137.stm)
Wrong comrade.The soldiers treatment of the people are far more worst then Saddams. [/b]
It was something that an Iraqi woman said. Are you suggesting that you know better the present and past conditions of Iraq than a resident of Iraq?
Do you live in Iraq?
How are things over there?
I must appologize for my countries actions.
Bastards they are.

Tevya The Dairyman
29th October 2003, 03:34
You, me, us, don&#39;t have to appologize on amything our countries do&#33;
We shall never take a responsability on their action&#33;
By the wat, I summon you all to visit in my organization site, and see some nice article on the road map:

http://www.maavak.org.il/maavak/modules.ph...article&sid=103 (http://www.maavak.org.il/maavak/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=103)

-by the way, how do I put a picture underneath my name?

Intifada
29th October 2003, 06:39
go to "my controls" and select an avatar.

kingbee
29th October 2003, 08:18
the thing is, they dont understand why the red cross was targeted- its christian. isnt that a stupid thing to be sending in, when the red crescent could have worked without causing offence?

Invader Zim
29th October 2003, 09:40
Originally posted by Hawker+Oct 29 2003, 01:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Hawker @ Oct 29 2003, 01:01 AM)
[email protected] 28 2003, 08:29 PM
Yankee bastards. Killing innocent people all the time.

"Just this morning I saw a US soldier beat an Iraqi man in the street. Some time ago in Kadhimiya I saw a man being shot three times just because he was standing and staring at the soldiers. We ran away so I don&#39;t know what happened to him.

"We want to live in peace," she says. "Why this harsh treatment? It is like Saddam

Source: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3215137.stm)
Wrong comrade.The soldiers treatment of the people are far more worst then Saddams. [/b]
What apart from the little detail that the Yanks didnt strap him to an electrode first...

Any way I doubt that womans credablitity. In a very high media profile war where soldiers are being watched by the world, i find it highly unlikley that the US troops would dare commit a crime such as the one&#39;s descibed. As they would know it would be found out, you cannot just take the word of a random person off the street, as they are like every one else trying to sell a story. If embelishing it a bit is going to make it better you an be sure as hell it will be. Also to believe such storys a little evidence would be nice, perhaps she could have taken the reporters to the scene of the crime. Maybe shown them the bodys etc, but she doesnt, logical conclusion, bodys dont exist.

Sabocat
29th October 2003, 10:19
This is just a sample.

There are plenty of crimes being committed.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0707-02.htm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/conte...-name_page.html (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/content_objectid=13087653_method=full_siteid=50143 _headline=-US-TROOPS-ADMIT-SHOOTING-IRAQI-CIVILIANS-name_page.html)

http://www.arabia.com/newsfeed/print/artic...,412929,00.html (http://www.arabia.com/newsfeed/print/article/english/0,14239,412929,00.html)

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/.../raid-a02.shtml (http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/aug2003/raid-a02.shtml)

Dhul Fiqar
29th October 2003, 12:02
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 05:18 PM
the thing is, they dont understand why the red cross was targeted- its christian. isnt that a stupid thing to be sending in, when the red crescent could have worked without causing offence?
The Red Crescent and the Red Cross are the same thing - and they have nothing to do with Christianity or Islam.

The red cross was named after it&#39;s flag - which is an inverted version of the Swiss flag - as it was originally a Swiss organization. There was not a hint of religious undertones to the name - but they call themselves "Red Crescant" and adopt a crescant logo in the Muslim world because to most Muslims a cross of any kind is associated with Christians and they wanted to make it crystal clear so there would be no confusion.

Attacking a humanitarian institution is indeed a crime against humanity - just because Americans do the same doesn&#39;t mean everyone suddenly has a license to slaughter aid workers as they try to save lives.

--- G.

Dr. Rosenpenis
29th October 2003, 20:47
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 05:40 AM
In a very high media profile war where soldiers are being watched by the world, i find it highly unlikley that the US troops would dare commit a crime such as the one&#39;s descibed.
Amazing&#33;? Isn&#39;t it, comardes?

The media, Enigma, is controled by the US and/or the bourgeoisie, and nothing will be revealed to the world that is undesirable to America&#39;s reputation as a bulwark of the capitalist class. And I find it extremely likely that the US would commit such crimes... judging from history. Have you learned nothing, comarde, of the nature of imperialist actions?

Sabocat
29th October 2003, 21:15
We are of course talking about a military that just recently has been investigated for attrocities in Vietnam. They found that a group called the Tiger Force, would go into villages, kill and maim civilians, cut off their ears and make and wear the necklaces to intimidate the population.

I would suggest that most of what you hear about the Army in Iraq is most likely true.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles...t_boston_globe/ (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/10/20/vietnam_atrocities_revealed_in_report_boston_globe/)

Hawker
29th October 2003, 22:03
Originally posted by Enigma+Oct 29 2003, 10:40 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Enigma @ Oct 29 2003, 10:40 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 01:01 AM

[email protected] 28 2003, 08:29 PM
Yankee bastards. Killing innocent people all the time.

"Just this morning I saw a US soldier beat an Iraqi man in the street. Some time ago in Kadhimiya I saw a man being shot three times just because he was standing and staring at the soldiers. We ran away so I don&#39;t know what happened to him.

"We want to live in peace," she says. "Why this harsh treatment? It is like Saddam

Source: BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3215137.stm)
Wrong comrade.The soldiers treatment of the people are far more worst then Saddams.
What apart from the little detail that the Yanks didnt strap him to an electrode first...

Any way I doubt that womans credablitity. In a very high media profile war where soldiers are being watched by the world, i find it highly unlikley that the US troops would dare commit a crime such as the one&#39;s descibed. As they would know it would be found out, you cannot just take the word of a random person off the street, as they are like every one else trying to sell a story. If embelishing it a bit is going to make it better you an be sure as hell it will be. Also to believe such storys a little evidence would be nice, perhaps she could have taken the reporters to the scene of the crime. Maybe shown them the bodys etc, but she doesnt, logical conclusion, bodys dont exist. [/b]
They US will do whatever they want with the poplous and if the media is there.They&#39;ll silence them,they&#39;ll take away the camera and threaten the media never to talk about what happened to anybody else or else...

Victorcommie I don&#39;t live in Iraq I know these things because I read about them in new sites that hasn&#39;t been silenced by the US.Sure Saddam was a maniac and a bastard,but at least he had some dignity in him.

Dhul Fiqar
29th October 2003, 22:20
Hell, even CNN have shown pictures of soldiers roughing up civilians - on more than one occasion I have seen footage where a cameraman happens uppon shit like that and moments later he is mobbed by soldiers holding their hands over his lens...

It happens :(

--- G.

Dhul Fiqar
29th October 2003, 22:21
Oh, and don&#39;t forget that if a reporter refuses to abide by the laws and restrictions of the U.S. military (such as: "Don&#39;t show the bad stuff") they can expect to be expelled from the country - or at least not be allowed access to any of the vital areas.

--- G.

Sabocat
30th October 2003, 10:35
And keep in mind that something along the lines of 13-15 reporter/cameramen/journalists have been killed.

Some of the news agencies have stated that they believe the attacks on their members were deliberate. Citing the attack on the hotel that the journalists were staying in, killing a camera man in broad daylight, holding his camera etc.

It appears that the "non embedded" reporters have suffered the worst.


Perhaps they should&#39;ve only been reporting on the happy news of the "liberation" of Iraq. <_<