Join our BOINC team (The Communist)

[matevz91]

Dear fellow leftists!

Do you know what BOINC is? Taken from the wikipedia: "The Berkeley Open Infrastructure for Network Computing (BOINC) is an open source middleware system for volunteer and grid computing. The intent of BOINC is to make it possible for researchers to tap into the enormous processing power of personal computers around the world."

Basically, with BOINC you can help scientists around the world in areas like mathematics (searching for primes, proving conjectures,...), physics (searching for gravitational waves, pulzars (spinning neutron stars), stars, planets, black holes, alliens, ....), medicine (participating in the research of the HIV virus, development of medicines,...) etc.

So where is the link with communism? Everywhere! Some months ago one of my friends said that communism is conservative... I was pissed at the start, but then I got the idea: many educated people think that way. How can I fight this? By showing them that we communists stand for the development of humankind, science and everything else.
My way of thinking about this matter is such: if we as a communist team reach a high position, then some people will think about it and we will have the opurtinity to show them, what we really stand for. The shock for the majority can be even greater because they think that our areas of interest are only limited to politics.

And so I created "The Communist" team in all BOINC projects (a BOINC-wide team). But unfortunately, currently we have only 4 members. My recruitment program on FB was unsuccessful. Majority of those interested think that this is reserved only for the "geeks", but no, things are well documented and easy to set and maintain. Myself, I cannot change anything, no matter how hard I push my computer. I desperately need more members and I do not know where to get them.:confused:

Can you help me?

Matevz

Our forum: http://is-communism-the-future.forums-free.com (one of the main subforums)

Links:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/ (BOINC software and documentation)
http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1549093 (my team in the BOINC stats)

[praxis1966]

Didn't UC Berkeley do something else like this for the SETI program? I seem to recall my brother installing something on our machine ages ago (when I was still living with the 'rents) that would help them process data from radio telescopes.

[StoneFrog]

I may just do it, once i get an area where i can put up my computer which i keep linux on.

Also what sort of bandwidth consumption would be expected?

[matevz91]

praxis1966, [email protected] is still online. It is one out of 7 projects we are currently participating in. Other projects are [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], malariacontrol.net, Collatz conjecture and [email protected] Give it a try once more!

StoneFrog, do not worry. Majority of BOINC projects has a very low bandwidth consumption. You can even use a dial-up. You can set it to connect every n hours/days, you can limit it on how many KBs it can send/receive per day and so forth. Majority of WUs (work units) is very small (some KBs or even bytes).

The only exception I think of at the moment is [email protected], which has very large WUs. For example, Binary Radio Pulsar Search can download 5 or more 4MB files per WU. When I download say 50 WUs I normally leave it for some hours to download everything (basic ADSL connection).

But all other projects I participate in have very small WUs so the bandwith should not be a problem even on dial-up.

[praxis1966]

praxis1966, [email protected] is still online. It is one out of 7 projects we are currently participating in. Other projects are [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], malariacontrol.net, Collatz conjecture and [email protected] Give it a try once more!

That's pretty cool it's still operational. IIRC, it was well over a decade ago when he installed the thing.


StoneFrog, do not worry. Majority of BOINC projects has a very low bandwidth consumption. You can even use a dial-up. You can set it to connect every n hours/days, you can limit it on how many KBs it can send/receive per day and so forth. Majority of WUs (work units) is very small (some KBs or even bytes).

I can attest to this. Again, IIRC, if my bro installed it when I'm thinking he did, we were barely Pentium class at the time with a 56K fax/modem. I don't remember any noticeable slow down in processing time either.

[matevz91]

That's pretty cool it's still operational. IIRC, it was well over a decade ago when he installed the thing.

I can attest to this. Again, IIRC, if my bro installed it when I'm thinking he did, we were barely Pentium class at the time with a 56K fax/modem. I don't remember any noticeable slow down in processing time either.

True, true. You are welcome anytime to join again.

[praxis1966]

Moved to S&E per request of the OP.

[Q]

Joined.

I was crunching years ago, also for SETI (both the classic and the boinc clients) and [email protected] (which doesn't seem to exist anymore). My laptop isn't a super fast machine, but all bits help.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I'm still confused as to what this is exactly.

[Q]

I'm still confused as to what this is exactly.

Many scientific projects require a lot of computational power. The classic solution for this is to have huge (and very expensive) supercomputers. However, it is much cheaper to divide the data into small blocks that more simple computers (like desktop pc's, laptops, etc) can handle. The idea is that a million simple computers can do the job of a few super computers.

The (as far as I know) first project utilising this idea was the SETI (Search for Extra-Terrestial Intelligence) project, which searches for alien civilisations by scanning the sky for artificial radio signals. Back in the 1990's the funding for the project was being slashed, so scientists had to look for innovative ways to process their vast amounts of data. [email protected] was the result.

BOINC is the next generation of this idea. BOINC is a platform on which many different projects can participate, ranging from cryptography and other mathematical problems, to protein and enzyme folding (medical research), to astronomy and much else. Se this page (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php) for a full lists of projects.

BOINC only uses the idle time of a CPU or, more recently, your GPU (video card processor), meaning you shouldn't notice it being run at all as it only uses the resources you wouldn't be using anyway.

[Q]

My first humble contribution (to [email protected]) has been submitted and points awarded :cool:

Downloading BOINC and hooking up to a project takes less than 5 minutes! We need more people, so come and join up!

[Yazman]

I will join the team next week.

[matevz91]

Thank you for such a good response! You are welcome. Every new user counts, even if he only owns an old laptop or something of that kind.

[matevz91]

Current position of our team on: http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1549093)

Position based on total credit 7,349 (http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?type=2&o=0&projekt=0&s=7300&desc=y&hl=7349) out of 93,134 :rolleyes:
Position based on average credit 650 (http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?type=2&o=1&projekt=0&s=600&desc=y&hl=650) out of 93,134 (!) :thumbup1:
Position based on number of team members 8672 (http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?type=2&o=2&projekt=0&s=8600&desc=y&hl=8672) out of 93,134 :confused: (only 6 members)

[Q]

Position based on number of team members 8672 (http://allprojectstats.com/top.php?type=2&o=2&projekt=0&s=8600&desc=y&hl=8672) out of 93,134 :confused: (only 6 members)

lol, that's probably like 80k 1-member "teams".

Also, #650 in average credit is the Mormon Community Grid, we're #654 ;)

[matevz91]

lol, that's probably like 80k 1-member "teams".

Also, #650 in average credit is the Mormon Community Grid, we're #654 ;)

:laugh: We were on the 650th place yesterday, they have beaten us by 4 places!:wub: :rolleyes: Now, we are on the 619th place!

And yes, there are 80k 1-member teams and 100k 0-member teams.

Anyway, Q, are you already our member?

[Q]

Anyway, Q, are you already our member?

Yes, since the 17th.

[matevz91]

Oh good.

Anyway, I think that we (members of this team) need a forum where we can help each other (like a team webpage, where parts of forum will be private and parts public) and chat about our computing. I already have some stories regarding BOINC to tell :rolleyes:

BOINC provides forums, but for us only per-project forums are usable (since no one is a member of our BOINC wide team. Perhaps we could use something like free forums?

What do you think?

[MattShizzle]

Been using BOINC over 2 years now. Already was on Atheist teams for all but 1 project, but I am now the 2nd member of this one for [email protected]

[matevz91]

If you decide to join us anyway, you are welcome.

Our teams forum: http://is-communism-the-future.forums-free.com (I know that it is not much, but it is a start)

[Q]

I think a BOINC usergroup on Revleft would be a better idea. But I've registered.

[matevz91]

We can have the group here. I will live the forum there for those who are not members of revleft (there are some). I will post a link from there here.

Anyway, how can one create a usergroup here?

[The Dark Side of the Moon]

im tempted to do it

[matevz91]

Do what? :confused:

[Q]

I created a BOINC usergroup (http://www.revleft.com/vb/group.php?groupid=826). All Revleftersare welcome to join.

[matevz91]

Good! I joined the moment I read that post (some days ago). I posted the invitation also on ********, but got no response (yet). Because of the much smaller user base , I guess.

Mods, are you afraid of murofver? And more, you ignore my PM? Shame on yourselves.

[RedHal]

still don't understand what this BOINC Communist group is for:confused: I remember the SETI thing from years ago, I understand the use of millions of home computers to help analyze data. So wtf data are you analyzing with this Communist group?

[matevz91]

:)
You mentioned millions of home computers... owners of those computers join together into teams. For example, those who love chocolate cakes join the "I love chocolate cake" team, others, who hate dinosaurs join the team "We hate dinos":laugh:. And those who are communists join "The Communist" team.

But no matter which team you join, we all compute common projects, like [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], etc. There is no communist project as yet...

The same is in football: there are many teams, but they all play the same sport, that is footbal. They compete, and so do we, communists, compete with others.

Moto of our team is: "Communism is not conservative! We need to show this to the whole world!"

For example, if I find a huge prime in [email protected], people will say: "Look, he found this huge prime number and he is the member of The Communist team. Since when do communists care about science? Havent I been told that they conservative?". I want people to ask themselves questions like that.

But since we only have 6 members, it is not very likely that anyone will make such discoveries or that our team will reach high enough in points to be noticed.

But hey, if you join, things will look a lot better!

[an21htr]

Thanks brother for post intresting topic

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Stickied per member request.

[matevz91]

Thank you.

[Yazman]

I'm going to join in the next few hours, and I'll be running for [email protected]

[matevz91]

Good choice!

Do you by any chance have a CUDA or OpenCL enabled GPU? If so, you can use it in [email protected] or [email protected]

[Yazman]

Yeah, I have an AMD/ATI 5770. Should be able to use it.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I joined the group but still need to actually get everything installed.

[matevz91]

Yeah, I have an AMD/ATI 5770. Should be able to use it.

Yes, that would be fine. Anyway, there are not many projects that support OpenCL. If SETI fails to use your GPU, try in [email protected] or [email protected]


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Anyway, welcome, Yazman and TheGodlessUtopian!

[MattShizzle]

The team now has credit on the LHC project from me.

[matevz91]

Thank you so much! I always become so happy when I see that somebody new joined!

I cant wait for the teams to resynchronize! We have now 9 members? :cool: Good!

NoXion, thank you so much for making this thread sticky! And guys, thank you for joining!

[matevz91]

Updated statistics for today at 13.00
Total credits 2,991,782.71, position based on total credit 4536 out of 93,321 :unsure:
Recent average credit 95,577.84, position based on average credit 427 out of 93,321 :cool:

More info at http://allprojectstats.com/showteam.php?projekt=0&id=1549093

[Yazman]

I've been running [email protected] and [email protected] and racking up credit for the group :)

[matevz91]

Updated stats (17th October)

Total credits 4,061,619.29
--> Position based on total credits : 3618 out of 93418 :)

Recent average credit 109,221.43
--> Position based on average credit : 394 out of 93,418 :cool:

Team members: 10 :rolleyes:

[Yazman]

I don't get why somebody would vote no to this. There's no real downside so it at all. Even if you have a shit computer and a dialup connection you can still contribute to a wide range of valuable projects.

[matevz91]

Where can we get more members? I tried to recruit both on Facebook and here on revleft. Any more possible sources of new members?

[Yazman]

I wish I knew man. There's no downside to doing this - people who don't run this on their home PC are slack are fuck, and not in the J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, having fun, smoking 'frop, sense of the word. I mean in the "fuck you, it's so easy and worthwhile and you don't do it" sense.

[Q]

I wish I knew man. There's no downside to doing this - people who don't run this on their home PC are slack are fuck, and not in the J.R. "Bob" Dobbs, having fun, smoking 'frop, sense of the word. I mean in the "fuck you, it's so easy and worthwhile and you don't do it" sense.

I'm sure such a tone will cause the left to adopt BOINC en masse.

[Yazman]

I'm sure such a tone will cause the left to adopt BOINC en masse.

I wasn't trying to convince anybody to adopt BOINC in that post. I was expressing my frustration to matevz91. You're taking my post out of context. It was a response to the topic creator who is also frustrated, it wasn't an appeal to non-BOINC users.

Furthermore, I don't care for 'the left' adopting BOINC. In a non-sectarian, non-partisan way, I think everybody should adopt it, not just the left.

[matevz91]

Both of you, Q and Yazman are right.

I just feel that we should get more members from the leftist community, because that is one of the reasons why this group was founded. 10 members are a good start, but it would be better if we got more.

Current stats:
Position based on total credit 2,788 out of 93,652
Position based on average credit 508 out of 93,652
(we were in the 400s, but after I stopped crunching PrimeGrid GPU WUs and switched to [email protected] GPU WUs, we feel for like 100 places :huh:)

Anyway, we are progressing.

Btw: I found this link: http://usa.lanex.com/?page_id=79 <-- what do you thing, would this text encourage people to join us?
And we would also need some propaganda material, like posters to join our BOINC team. What do you think?

[Q]

So, to bump this again...

I want to run BOINC on my work computer. But it seems the ports are blocked by firewall. Are there any easy ways to port forward and stuff?

[Metacomet]

I joined the team. it says only 3 members?

[Ozymandias]

I joined the team. it says only 3 members?

allprojectstats dot com dash showteam dot php?searchstr=communist


We're the first one I'm pretty sure.

FYI, if you're wondering why someone would not join, it's because I have a piece of shit computer and I'm frightened that it'll break down if I strain it too much.

[Q]

FYI, if you're wondering why someone would not join, it's because I have a piece of shit computer and I'm frightened that it'll break down if I strain it too much.

It also requires some investment in your electricity bill, as the CPU is running full steam all the time.

[Naroc]

I know this thread is quite old, but i just wanted to ask if this project is still running?
I've used BOINC before for several projects and i got interested when i read that you opened
A communist group. If it isn't up-to-date, are there some of you who are interested in restarting this project? I actually like the idea.

[Q]

I know this thread is quite old, but i just wanted to ask if this project is still running?
I've used BOINC before for several projects and i got interested when i read that you opened
A communist group. If it isn't up-to-date, are there some of you who are interested in restarting this project? I actually like the idea.
We could actually relaunch this thing ;)

The original team no longer exists. Let's create a Revleft team as a common group for all of us.