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tradeunionsupporter
13th September 2011, 20:39
I think I understand now before Class Society Religion was used in Tribal Society to explain Nature and why we are here now we have Evolution/Darwinism to explain why we are here and Science explains Nature than when Class Society came about Religion was used to keep the lower class down and them hoping for a better life in a afterlife or hereafter does anyone agree wth this theory ?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/ju...dar1-j17.shtml

tradeunionsupporter
15th September 2011, 19:17
What does everyone think ?

tradeunionsupporter
17th September 2011, 18:48
I think we have Science/Evolution/Darwinism to explain things now.

Revolution starts with U
18th September 2011, 03:54
I think I understand now. Before Class Society Religion was used in Tribal Society to explain Nature and why we are here. Now we have Evolution/Darwinism to explain why we are here and Science explains Nature. Then when Class Society came about Religion was used to keep the lower class down and hoping for a better life in an afterlife does anyone agree wth this theory ?

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/ju...dar1-j17.shtml

Yes.
But Trade, for your own good, I think you should invest in some basic grammar lessons. Sometimes it is hard to understand what you are trying to say.
I usually have to do what I did to this post (above) to be able to respond. :thumbup1:

ComradeMan
19th September 2011, 22:52
Yes.
But Trade, for your own good, I think you should invest in some basic grammar lessons. Sometimes it is hard to understand what you are trying to say.
I usually have to do what I did to this post (above) to be able to respond. :thumbup1:

Keep him away from Gacky!!! :D


I think we have Science/Evolution/Darwinism to explain things now.

Explain how, not why. ;)

Revolution starts with U
20th September 2011, 09:04
Actually tho, I think it is far more subtle than that. Yes, pre-class religion was generally used to explain things, it was also used as a sort-of propaganda system for classless hegemony.
Generally, and this is more true the more nomadic the culture is, preclass management was not decided genetically, but meritocratic; the hunt leader is almost always the eldest, most experienced hunter, rather than the last hunt leader's son. And preclass myth generally deals with stories promoting determination, temperance, and self-empowerment. The culture teaches you how to judge, protect yourself from sorcery :lol: and potential competition, and read the spirit of nature. It is inherintly a personally progressive religion.
But, "johnny grew 500 cornstalks that year" is not as glorious as "johnny slayed a lion." Late preclass (primitive agricultural) society reflects that. Leadership quality is still promoted, but in more of an ancestor worship way. One is taught to respect the age for the sake of age, rather than experience. Shamanism and sorcery are still prevalent, but have taken on a more cultish role; spirits transform to gods, proper worship insures prosperity (allegedly lol).
It isn't until far into the heavy agricultural society that religion begins create a class hegemony. The king rules because the Gods deem it so, and the priestly class manages the foodstuffs that pay his soldiers. Politics becomes staple of the Gods' personalities. One is taught to play their proper role, and the ruling class is taught it is their genetic duty to conquer.