Post your small political rants

[Rafiq]

I fucking hate it when Libertarian 'socialists' try to find common ground with ancaps and Right Wingers, or, even without that, try to sound badass and socially appealing by whining about the state or authority.

I hate when Bourgeois Socialists (Liberals) find democrats politically appealing and have some kind of weird solidarity with them, (Oh hey, I'm a fake leftist too!)

And I hate, most of all, when Spineless fucks call themselves "Socialists" but are actually just Social Democrats (Hur dur Capitarism and Communizm are too extreme I'm a Socialist) who don't know the first thing about socialism.

I hate when you're having a Political discussion with my peers or whatever they just randomly bring in the Koran and Allah, just to feel religiously safe, it's like, WTF, that has nothing to do with this!

Also I hate the word 'Economic Freedom'. Whoever termed it should (have) die a long, hard death.





Maybe I'm Crazy, Maybe it's because I'm alittle drunk, but post yours.

[ZeroNowhere]

I dislike the first three of those, as they are generally species of intellectual laziness, which is my general bête noire. I don't hate them, though, because I don't hate things.

[Rusty Shackleford]

God i hate capitalism. all it does is fuck shit up. Its not progressive anymore why cant people understand that!? omfg i hate liberals they are blinding themselves because they are a bunch of pretentious fucks.

[Die Rote Fahne]

I hate when left wing nationalists have the gall to call me an anti-Marxist apologist of imperialism for not supporting their nations want for independence. It's even worse when they Strawman your arguments to pieces over and over and over, and they claim that "right" to self determination applies to all nations, but when Marx denies the right of Balkan Slavs and Czechs, changes their mind....

[Rafiq]

I dislike the first three of those, as they are generally species of intellectual laziness, which is my general bête noire. I don't hate them, though, because I don't hate things.

That's why it's chit chat.

Or are you referring to the situations I described myself?

[¿Que?]

I fucking hate it when Libertarian 'socialists' try to find common ground with ancaps and Right Wingers, or, even without that, try to sound badass and socially appealing by whining about the state or authority.

Well, I do this, but not to sound badass or anything, but to warm up these people to my views and avoid getting my ass kicked...

[ВАЛТЕР]

I FUCKING HATE! NATIONALIST HORSESHIT! I HATE IT.

I ALSO HATE THE FUCKING LIES BEING SPREAD ABOUT COMMUNISM, AND SOCIALISM. IT INFURIATES ME WHEN I SEE THAT PICTURE OF THE EU FLAG WITH A HAMMER AND SICKLE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT SOMEHOW IMPLYING THAT THE EU IS COMMUNIST!!

Also, it pisses me off to no avail when people here (Serbia) talk about how great the king was and how communism ruined everything and that the Partizans were war criminals...wtf?!

The Partizans led the most successful guerrilla war in history and managed to liberate most of their own land by themselves! They went from being a small guerilla force to by 1944 being fully capable of carrying out direct warfare with the Germans!? This is fact! Their tactics are studied in every respectable military academy in the world..

FUCK!

I don't even know what else to say...

Spit on Tito, yet everything they see around them was built because of his policies.

[Rafiq]

Well, I do this, but not to sound badass or anything, but to warm up these people to my views and avoid getting my ass kicked...

Then you are submitting yourself to their reactionary views.

If you don't want to get your ass kicked then obviously the people you are trying to convince are basically too fucking stupid to refute your points, and it's not worth talking politics with them.

I advise you don't do this, but, you can if you want, after all I'm just some asshole on a website.

But we (revolutionary leftists) will never categorize ourselves with Right Wing scum.

[Rafiq]

Also Political Islam pisses me off more than most things too.

For example here in the U.S. they try to act all moderate and shit, so they identify with basic Right Wing bullfuck, like rampant unapologetic Homophobia and Sexism (Oh we don't hate women, we just think they should do women work while men do men work).

And they are big NWO ZIONIST ZOG BLAH BLAH BLAH conspiracy theorist pricks, it's like STFU.

[¿Que?]

Then you are submitting yourself to their reactionary views.

If you don't want to get your ass kicked then obviously the people you are trying to convince are basically too fucking stupid to refute your points, and it's not worth talking politics with them.

I advise you don't do this, but, you can if you want, after all I'm just some asshole on a website.

But we (revolutionary leftists) will never categorize ourselves with Right Wing scum.
Well, Right Wing scum can be convinced of a lot of things. They are not some category of people that deserve to be marginalized. If they listen and understand our views, and are reasonable people, they will have no choice but to cede some intellectual ground. I'm not categorizing myself with the right, though, I'm as you said originally, trying to find common ground. There are a number of ways to tell someone they are wrong, some more conducive to having the other person actually listen to you, and some less so. There is a time and place for confrontation I think, but in the situation that I was envisioning, which is like I was the only leftists, there were maybe one or two liberals, some hippy libertarian types and A LOT of right wing Glenn Beck types, I think I made the right decision not to go all in your face socialist on these folks.

Maybe I was betraying my views and principles, and possibly the broader struggle, but I don't think so. You have to be able to live to fight another day, nothing more useless to the struggle than being dead.

[ZeroNowhere]

That's why it's chit chat.

Or are you referring to the situations I described myself?
I'm referring to the situations, I'm not insulting you.

[Agent Ducky]

I am so sick of people who are like "You can't be an anarchist and a communist at the same time! INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Can't stand when people assume I'm conservative when I bash Obama. It's like all they hear is "Fuck Obama because..." and don't even comprehend any of the criticisms that come right after that. I've been congratulated by conservatives for my criticism and liberals usually reply by saying "Well if your Republican candidate got elected..." *facepalm*

[DeBon]

I fucking hate it when Libertarian 'socialists' try to find common ground with ancaps and Right Wingers, or, even without that, try to sound badass and socially appealing by whining about the state or authority.

I hate when Bourgeois Socialists (Liberals) find democrats politically appealing and have some kind of weird solidarity with them, (Oh hey, I'm a fake leftist too!)

And I hate, most of all, when Spineless fucks call themselves "Socialists" but are actually just Social Democrats (Hur dur Capitarism and Communizm are too extreme I'm a Socialist) who don't know the first thing about socialism.


I hate people who think anyone who is beyond Socialist is some sort of pro-murderer.

I hate people who say they are Communists, or what have you, and are the definition of average consumer. Just another prodigy of the system with all their sweatshop clothes, expensive pets, jewelry, and all that other shit.

I hate far Right Wing Conservative Christians who are looking for an argument. Seriously, begging you to reveal your beliefs just to see if they can have a nice debate with you.

I hate people who capitalize on Che/Marx/Lenin apparel. I don't hate people who buy such moronic thing, but I sure do lack respect for most of them, seeing as most people don't even know who they were or what they stood for.

[PlayAlone64]

I understand not allying yourself with Democrats and Republicans, however, I am willing to set aside my differences and show solidarity to the Democratic Socialists. I think it's just my inner humanitarian forcing me to show support for anyone trying to help. For instance you've got Bernie Sanders who is fighting a nuclear plant, pushing for equal rights for homosexuals and women, healthcare, etc. We should support the Democratic Socialists in trying to make things better in our current situation, despite the fact that we disagree on what should be done. Pardon the coincendental Lenin reference

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[Zanthorus]

I hate people who say they are Communists, or what have you, and are the definition of average consumer. Just another prodigy of the system with all their sweatshop clothes, expensive pets, jewelry, and all that other shit.

That's funny, because I'm not a fan of people who call themselves communists and then think whining and moralising about people's lifestyle choices is a useful activity.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Libertarian Socialism is intellectual laziness?

Shit, better just call up the Freikorps and have them shoot me too.:rolleyes:

I really do dislike that opposing tendencies on the left don't show any respect for one another. I'd be perfectly happy to show 'unity in opposition' to Capitalism, along with tendencies who I would otherwise disagree with, but it's impossible to work with people who you know would liquidate your person if they had enough power, as the latter is all they want.

[Kamos]

The most unforgivable offense in my mind when it comes to politics is not simply hating communism, but hating (or even disliking) it without being adequately informed about the subject. I swear, the next guy who says Europe is socialist or Russia is communist, or that communism is right wing gets the icepick treatment. I also despise all nationalists - get a grip, people, what are you fighting for?

[Smyg]

I FUCKING HATE having to waste time tearing down every single motherfuckin' Neo-Nazi sticker the Swedes' Party puts up. No-mosques-in-Sweden my ass. :thumbdown:

[Die Rote Fahne]

The most unforgivable offense in my mind when it comes to politics is not simply hating communism, but hating (or even disliking) it without being adequately informed about the subject. I swear, the next guy who says Europe is socialist or Russia is communist, or that communism is right wing gets the icepick treatment. I also despise all nationalists - get a grip, people, what are you fighting for?

Against imperialism ;).

[ColonelCossack]

ZOMFG MY FRIEND"S A TWIT

He was like "Hey (colonelcossak), do you agree with communism?"

"well DUH I'm a communist, fatso. What's your problem?"

"I don't agree with... er... communism..."

"Oh, just shut up. You don't even know what that is."

"No, i don't... but I hate it..."

"How can you hate it? You don't know what it is!"

(SHRUGGED SHOULDERS)

"You know what hating stuff you don't understand leads to, K****? It leads to Racism. And... And... The Slave trade."

"What? Are you justifying the slave trade?"

"No, I'm not. You seem to be, though."

"What???"

"You don't know what communism is. How can you hate it, then?"

"I thought... from history lessons... that it's just people wanting to control everything. Like... like a dictatorship."

"No, K****, It's not, so shut the fuck up, you twit (I actually used a similar word that isn't allowed on revleft). It's when the workers in a factory democratically control how that factory's run. Get it? how can you disagree with that?"

"What? I don't get it."

"OI, YOU FUCKING LISTEN TO ME, MATE! (at this point I pull him by the scruff of his neck, and my other friend tells me to calm down)."

OTHER FRIEND: Ok, K****, let me tell you about communism quietly- unlike (colonelcossak). It's economic and social equality for all. is that right, (colonelcossak)?"

"well... yeah... but I wouldn't necessarily describe it like that. Basically, in capitalism- NOW LISTEN TO ME, K****! In capitalism, you have one capitalist who owns the factory, and the workers make commodities in the factory, and the capitalist takes most of the profit from them. Basically, if a worker works for 6 hours, he makes 6 hours of commodities. However, if the capitalist only sells this, and pays the worker for 6 hour worth of labour, the capitalist won't make a profit. So, in order to make a profit, The capitalist makes the worker work for, say, 9 hours- maybe more- but only pays the worker for the original 6 hours work. So, the worker has produced 9 hours worth of commodities, but to make a profit, the capitalist only pays him for 6 hours. Now, in communism, there is no capitalist- only the workers. The workers democratically control how the factory they work in is run, and the get back everything they produce, because there is no capitalist to exploit them in the way shown above. People put in what they can, and get out what they need- so it's, "from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.".

So then K****'s like, "But I think some people should have power. I only want to do politics for power."

"But why should you have power? Why not anyone else? And anyway- why do you want to do politics for power? Don't you want to do it to help people? That just makes you the ruthless, power-hungry dictator."

"I do want to help people, but- anyway.Connections. And Inheritance. That's how people get power and money.".

"But who gets to choose who has connections? Or inheritance?"

"It's not hard to get..."

"Is it fair that one person is born with money, and someone else isn't? Why should someone born with money have that money, and someone born without it doesn't? Who decides? not everyone can be rich, you know! Capitalism would collapse."

"Yeah but it wouldn't work. And you need some people to be in control and have power and control the factory."

"That's probably what they said about democracy, when we had a full monarchy. Communism is the economic version of democracy."

Then we get onto dead peasant policy- where employers in america take out life insurance on their employees and take all the money for it, and the family gets nothing.

OTHER FRIEND: "Yeah, but when they die it's not hard to get another worker."

"Exactly. In fact, it's not profitable for the capitalists for unemployment to be below around 6%. It's kept at around 6%. There's alway a reserve army of unemployed."

OTHER FRIEND: "yeah, yeah."

"in fact, capitalists always try to revolutionise the means of production- you know? Automate it. mechanise it. Like the self-service tills in Tesco. So, eventually, all labour will be made robotic- so there'll be no human workers. However, when that happens, there'll be no workers to exploit- in the way i explained earlier. Capitalists would only get out of a machine what they put into it, through maintenance etc.. So, when that happens, capitalism would collapse because no capitalists would make any profit at all. So capitalisms gonna go down anyway.".

That's like, the most compelling argument against capitalism I've ever made. However, it didn't phase K****, partly because he's thick as two planks, and also because he wasn't really listening. Afterwards, though, when he looked up capitalism on wikipedia, I pointed out that it said, "Capitalism is an economic system where the means of production are privately owned.", and he was, like, "OH YEAH..." :rolleyes:

The funny thing is though, K**** is normally a really right on-greeny-rasta-weed-lefty (he used to be a Rastafarian), and my other friend is normally the more right wing one. In the last three months, though, I've made him think the workers should own the means of production. He, (my other friend) Still agrees with inheritance, and he thinks live rounds should have been used against the rioters in the london summer 2011 riots, though... :rolleyes:


So, anyway, that's me rant. :)

[Rafiq]

Ironically colenelcossack completely failed at giving the actual definition of communism

[ColonelCossack]

Ironically colenelcossack completely failed at giving the actual definition of communism

How would you describe it?

i was only quoting what i read on revleft.

And seriously, if I was talking a load of BS, then 4 and a half years of studying communism mean nothing. That's like... a quarter of my life down the drain... dayum. :mellow:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I HATE going in for a job interview. Why do I want to work at McDonalds? Why the fuck do you think, because I love working minimum wage jobs that make me miserable, smell bad, and makes other people think I'm a loser? No dumbass, I want to work at this miserable place because I need money to live, I need money for my education, I need money so that I can go out every once in a while, and this piece of shit place is hiring people. So please boss person let me put my productive capabilities in your service so that I can live a little I wouldn't have it any other way! I have to go before someone so that they can decide if I can put my productive capabilities to work, I have to practically beg these fuckers so that I can further my education. Fuck those people, I hope they all die slowly.

[Rafiq]

How would you describe it?

i was only quoting what i read on revleft.

And seriously, if I was talking a load of BS, then 4 and a half years of studying communism mean nothing. That's like... a quarter of my life down the drain... dayum. :mellow:

Under your definition a society dominated by a Worker's cooperative is communist. It's not, in fact it's just as capitalist as the latter.


Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence

-Karl Marx

[ColonelCossack]

Under your definition a society dominated by a Worker's cooperative is communist. It's not, in fact it's just as capitalist as the latter.


In what way? the workers put in what they can and take what they need... there's no exploitation there... how is it capitalist?

[DeBon]

That's funny, because I'm not a fan of people who call themselves communists and then think whining and moralising about people's lifestyle choices is a useful activity.

Just in my spare time, comrade. Besides, it's the purpose of this thread. :rolleyes:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

In what way? the workers put in what they can and take what they need... there's no exploitation there... how is it capitalist?

Well how you explain communism as a society where workers run the place and "get everything" because there is no boss doesn't seem right, you wouldn't be getting 9 hours of wages because there is no boss instead of 6 hours of wages for 9 hours of labor as you put it. You seem to imply there will be payment for work.

[ColonelCossack]

Well how you explain communism as a society where workers run the place and "get everything" because there is no boss doesn't seem right, you wouldn't be getting 9 hours of wages because there is no boss instead of 6 hours of wages for 9 hours of labor as you put it. You seem to imply there will be payment for work.

yeah, well, in the actual debate it was more like how communism actually is. Of course I dont think there should be money. In real life, and in my head, it sounded much more like a free association of producers. I think the reason why I fucked it up when I wrote it was that I could only remember snatches of the argument, and I was trying to be succinct.

Ironically, this exact thing came up in the argument- they, like you (though through my error, with you as with them) got the wrong end of the stick, and I had to explain to K**** that there would be no money in communism.

I didn't mean people get out in money what they put in, like they get paid for all their labour time- what I meant was, everyone gets out of society proportional to their needs, and in accordance with a contribution to society (through the production of commodities). So yeah... its a free association of producers. I didn't mean the workers would get a full 9 hours wages for 9 hours work (what would be the point in that?); but I did mean that everyone puts in what they can and is given back what they need-"from each according to his ability, to each according to his need".

I assumed that within a factory, the means of society would be democraticaly run by the workers in that factory.

I hope this post was more cohesive and put my point across better. Like I said, it made sense in my head, and when the argument was going on. If it was id appreciate if you reply and let me know... just for peace of mind... I want to know that a good few years of my life don't mean nothing.

[Rafiq]

In what way? the workers put in what they can and take what they need... there's no exploitation there... how is it capitalist?

Capitalism is a very complex system and sure as hell doesn't just mean just exploitation.

It's not an ethical discussion.

[ColonelCossack]

Capitalism is a very complex system and sure as hell doesn't just mean just exploitation.

It's not an ethical discussion.

I don't mean exploitation in an ethical way.

I meant it in a materialist sense as an umbrella term for all the ways in which capitalists make money by cheating workers e.g. the wage system.

I know capitalism isnt just exploitation; I was using it as an example, and the most relevant one in terms of the relationship between capitalist and communist society.

Anyway, this discussion is kinda irrelevant because in my previous post I corrected the (many) errors in my first post.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Ideological Democrats are fucking insane. Gent all bent out of shape over a response to the allegation that democrats are somehow different than the republicans and that the republicans are all fascists. Theres this one on facebook that is a mutual 'friend' of mine that every time they respond, just comes out swinging with baseballbat mounted blenders trying to defeat anyone who criticizes the democratic party. :lol:

[Rodrigo]

It makes me sick seeing a bunch of persons who call themselves leftists but fight for the deceiving national elections (social-democrat sissies!) Or seeing so-called "libertarians" ranting against communism based on Nazi, Fascist and Capitalist propaganda from WW2 and the Cold War, or using pieces of shit from Robert Conquest, Solzhenitsyn, Ayn Rand, Richard Pipes or some obscure academicist and "library-revolutionary" who calls him/herself "Marxist", but whose anarchic ideology were already proven miserably wrong by real Marxists! :thumbup:

To hell with those anarchist youthies who think they're making a revolution when they get together and create an alternative society! It's does no harm to the capitalist system, so it's useless and utopian! And those twats dare to say the Bolsheviks "destroyed the Russian Revolution". Face it, Marxists absolutely refuted anarchism! :lol: But you don't know it yet.

It also angers to hear from so-called leftists things like... "OMFGODZ BUT.. BUT.. <ABC> KILLD MILLONS OV PEPLE! U ARE DEFENDING DICTATORZ WHO BETRAYD THE REVOLUTION! LONG LIVE TROTSKY" That points out how "good" these noobs studied communism and the history of socialist countries. Face it, trots, Leninists absolutely refuted Trotskyism! :lol: But you don't know it yet.

It's irritating to hear people say... "OK WHY DON'T YOU GO TO NORTH KOREA OR CUBA, THEN?" As if a socialist Brasil would be similar to Cuba or DPRK! it's just nonsense. Rightists and the anticommunist left SHOOT THEIR OWN FEET WITH STUPIDITIES LIKE THAT! Well, three friends of mine gone to DPRK this year, and they say it was awesome! No comparison to any capitalist country, or even any other socialist country! They have a blog, called Solidariedade à Coreia Popular. (Solidarity to People's Korea)

I have pity on people who think in communism everyone wears the same things, thinks the same, and people are forced to share their houses and personal things with everyone else. Or that <ABC> communist leader was evil, bloody, totalitarian, etc. That's common-sense. No more, no less than stupid common-sense with the aim to defame communism.

I just say... What a lot of incoherence and dumbness! :thumbdown: Both in the right and, sadly, the left. But good to know I'm following the correct path, which at least ideologically triumphed over a variety of slanders and liars through history.

Good day, good afternoon and good night to everyone. ;)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

It makes me sick seeing a bunch of persons who call themselves leftists but fight for the deceiving national elections (social-democrat sissies!) Or seeing so-called "libertarians" ranting against communism based on Nazi, Fascist and Capitalist propaganda from WW2 and the Cold War, or using pieces of shit from Robert Conquest, Solzhenitsyn, Ayn Rand, Richard Pipes or some obscure academicist and "library-revolutionary" who calls him/herself "Marxist", but whose anarchic ideology were already proven miserably wrong by real Marxists! :thumbup:

To hell with those anarchist youthies who think they're making a revolution when they get together and create an alternative society! It's does no harm to the capitalist system, so it's useless and utopian! And those twats dare to say the Bolsheviks "destroyed the Russian Revolution". Face it, Marxists absolutely refuted anarchism! :lol: But you don't know it yet.

It also angers to hear from so-called leftists things like... "OMFGODZ BUT.. BUT.. <ABC> KILLD MILLONS OV PEPLE! U ARE DEFENDING DICTATORZ WHO BETRAYD THE REVOLUTION! LONG LIVE TROTSKY" That points out how "good" these noobs studied communism and the history of socialist countries. Face it, trots, Leninists absolutely refuted Trotskyism! :lol: But you don't know it yet.

It's irritating to hear people say... "OK WHY DON'T YOU GO TO NORTH KOREA OR CUBA, THEN?" As if a socialist Brasil would be similar to Cuba or DPRK! it's just nonsense. Rightists and the anticommunist left SHOOT THEIR OWN FEET WITH STUPIDITIES LIKE THAT! Well, three friends of mine gone to DPRK this year, and they say it was awesome! No comparison to any capitalist country, or even any other socialist country! They have a blog, called Solidariedade à Coreia Popular. (Solidarity to People's Korea)

I have pity on people who think in communism everyone wears the same things, thinks the same, and people are forced to share their houses and personal things with everyone else. Or that <ABC> communist leader was evil, bloody, totalitarian, etc. That's common-sense. No more, no less than stupid common-sense with the aim to defame communism.

I just say... What a lot of incoherence and dumbness! :thumbdown: Both in the right and, sadly, the left. But good to know I'm following the correct path, which at least ideologically triumphed over a variety of slanders and liars through history.

Good day, good afternoon and good night to everyone. ;)
I like how your critique of other left-wing movements was "face it, we're better, you just don't know it". :laugh:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I hate when Stalinists talk about how great Stalin was because "he defeated the Nazis" when he only did shit after the USSR got attacked. He was perfectly willing to betray workers and work with the Nazis when they were splitting up Poland and the USSR attacked them only to defend themselves, what a hero :thumbdown:

[ZeroNowhere]

ZOMFG MY FRIEND"S A TWIT
Really, you come of looking worse in the alleged conversation than your friend does.

I was going to say that you came off as a bit of a ****, but all of the words which I thought appropriate are banned on Revleft. For all that there may be to get annoyed at conversations with non-socialists for, at least one can use a decent range of diction.

[thefinalmarch]

I hate when Stalinists talk about how great Stalin was because "he defeated the Nazis" when he only did shit after the USSR got attacked. He was perfectly willing to betray workers and work with the Nazis when they were splitting up Poland and the USSR attacked them only to defend themselves, what a hero :thumbdown:
Of course this all implies the bourgeois Stalin was ever on the side of the workers to begin with.

[Tjis]

Not really a rant, but here goes..

I just had a conversation with some Green Party member in New Zealand about Maori rights. This person was arguing that benefits for Maori are reverse racism, and that they are financed through income tax on white people's wages. I tried to argue that instead of hating on Maori for getting some benefits like scholarships, he should instead recognize that the Maori got this through decades of struggle and that he shouldn't ***** about it but fight for his needs as well. But according to him, this was not possible cause it'd hurt the economy. At this point I tried to steer the conversation towards exposing how the underlying problem here is that capitalists are pocketing most of the produced value, and that this could easily finance scholarships for everyone.
Unfortunately it then devolved into him saying that the Maori should be thankful towards the British for bringing civilization and basically should shut up and not fight for their rights at all. At that point I left the conversation. I don't think I'll be talking to this person anymore.

[Mark V.]

I'm tired smug pieces of shit who think that because they've read "x" amount of books that their world view is automatically correct. Face it, everyone gets something wrong.

[ColonelCossack]

Really, you come of looking worse in the alleged conversation than your friend does.

I was going to say that you came off as a bit of a ****, but all of the words which I thought appropriate are banned on Revleft. For all that there may be to get annoyed at conversations with non-socialists for, at least one can use a decent range of diction.

What ? The word "twit" is banned?

I thought it was a polite way of saying a sexist word for the female genitalia, where the i is replaced by an a...

edit: Oh! I get it now. Thanks for wanting to call me words that are banned on Revleft... :rolleyes:

What do you mean "decent range of diction?"

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Lets see....hardcore libertarians and Stalinists who worship everything about their beloved ideology without looking at the facts....that is what pisses me off.I can handle intellectual debates but not rants and ill informed tirades about what they think they know about economics.

[bricolage]

I hate people who say they are Communists, or what have you, and are the definition of average consumer. Just another prodigy of the system with all their sweatshop clothes, expensive pets, jewelry, and all that other shit.
What's an expensive pet? Well, I mean all pets can end up being expensive (food, vet) but did you have any particular ones in mind?
Are there acceptable communist pets?

[bricolage]

What do you mean "decent range of diction?"
The good words.

[Rodrigo]

Why people debate in this topic? :confused:

[Rodrigo]

I like how your critique of other left-wing movements was "face it, we're better, you just don't know it". :laugh:

O rly? :crying:

[A Revolutionary Tool]

O rly? :crying:
No actually I thought it was stupid IMO, I was trying to be nice though saying it was funny :laugh:

[tir1944]

Hello,sorry for the off-topic (i didn't know where else to put this),but how many posts do i have to make before i can start posting freely (without having to wait for the moderator's approval)?
Thanks.

[Rafiq]

Why is that important? ^ You hiding something? :laugh:

First 10 posts.

[Magón]

(at this point I pull him by the scruff of his neck, and my other friend tells me to calm down).

I would have socked you right in the face, and probably a couple more times, if you had done that to me for asking a question.

Good work on showing people that Communists are trying to be their friend, and help them, and NOT trying to make them out to be idiots.

[Rafiq]

Ya Colonel no offense but you shouldn't be getting mad over your friend because he doesn't know what Communism is, (Something natural) and, even more of a fail, your half assed explanation of communism.

It's like how could you scold him for something you don't know about either.

[ColonelCossack]

Ya Colonel no offense but you shouldn't be getting mad over your friend because he doesn't know what Communism is, (Something natural) and, even more of a fail, your half assed explanation of communism.

It's like how could you scold him for something you don't know about either.

wow

way to put someone off!

I wasn't pissed off because he didn't know what communism is, I was annoyed because he hated it without knowing what it is.

And I already explained that in the actual argument, and in my head, it sounded more like actual communism. It's like it got "lost in translation"...

Didn't you even read my posts?

[ColonelCossack]

I would have socked you right in the face, and probably a couple more times, if you had done that to me for asking a question.

Good work on showing people that Communists are trying to be their friend, and help them, and NOT trying to make them out to be idiots.

he was being very blase, and "poo-pooing" everything I was saying. It was very very frustrating. He was being very stupid and I think he was taking the piss on purpose.

I didn't actually post the whole argument. I paraphrased...

[ColonelCossack]

The good words.

I'm not sure I know what you mean...

[ComradeGrant]

I used to "debate" this kid who would pull all of his opinions from official APL points. He would say "well that is the M-L opinion, so it is mine." Also when people have the gall to call themselves intellectuals and then claim that Anarchism is based off of property destruction and that all Anarchists are just high school stoners angry that pot is illegal.

[Misanthrope]

I hate people who call themselves communists when they don't even have hammer and sickle shirts or listen to rage against the machine like wtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Magón]

he was being very blase, and "poo-pooing" everything I was saying. It was very very frustrating. He was being very stupid and I think he was taking the piss on purpose.

I didn't actually post the whole argument. I paraphrased...

If he was just screwing around, it doesn't make grabbing him any less stupid.

[Rusty Shackleford]

This person also posts like a fucking robot stuck on repeat. every post is in quadruplet. when i criticized the democrats as being the same this guy goes on and posts about how i am wrong 4-5 times trying to defend the democratic party. in separate threads.

i fucking hate militant liberals. they are annoying and dumb as shit. fuck them.

"republicons are fascists" lol.
"workers communists and socialists should vote for democrats because it will help defeat fascism" lol.



some duplicated treasures.



1.
Remember that phony republicon outrage when someone mentioned the crimes of the Bush administration, the stolen election the fabricated war?

2.
These pigs are what is wrong with America, republicons , everyone.
They are the reason the French invented the guillotine, time to bring it back.

3.
Why would anyone care what this Un American POS thinks?

4.
This is what you get when you vote for a republicon,
or this is what you get when you are not intelligent enough to get out and vote!
STOP BY YOUR ELECTIONS OFFICE, GET SOME '''VOTE BY MAIL REGISTRATION CARDS''', HAND THEM OUT TO THE ELDERLY
AND THE DISABLED, THE STUDENT, AND THE SHUT IN, HELP END FASCISM IN AMERICA. VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

5.
The republicon party did this, they have destroyed the American dream and raped our economy,
for the benefit of the foreign nationals, 'American' and foreign owned corporations that bribe them.

6.
The republicon party is fascist, they support the corporate take over of our country.
What they forgot, and why they are so sad, is that our government is our people, and that almost all corporations are owned by a few foreign shareholders.

7.
Recall, impeach, strike, boycott, end fascism, end the republicon party.

[Agent Ducky]

I used to "debate" this kid who would pull all of his opinions from official APL points. He would say "well that is the M-L opinion, so it is mine." Also when people have the gall to call themselves intellectuals and then claim that Anarchism is based off of property destruction and that all Anarchists are just high school stoners angry that pot is illegal.
I know this guy. I'd usually be in the same chat when they were debating.

The dude was completely intolerable. I don't think he formed any of his own opinions. Just asked the APL what they thought. "Anarchism is based completely off of breaking stuff.... and punk rock." And this guy, he links to the same videos about Stalin/Hoxha/bashing anarchists 10 times on the same day, and he does it every 5 minutes. I think the only upside was that he was also really easy to troll with a bunch of song references (he's the guy we trolled with RATM songs, had a thread a while back...)

[ColonelCossack]

If he was just screwing around, it doesn't make grabbing him any less stupid.

I wasn't grabbing him in any kind of scary, serious or bullying way. Why would I do that to my friend? I do that all the time to them... it's like a joke.

Anyway. it's not like you were there!

[Nox]

I dislike people who have the nerve to criticise something when they know very little about it.

E.g. A Left Communist/Anarchist criticising a Marxist-Leninist without ever having read any of Lenin/Stalin's works (sadly this happens all the time), or a Capitalist criticising Communism as a whole without ever reading any Communist works or even knowing what Communism means (sadly this also happens all the time).

[ComradeGrant]

Or an ML criticizing Left-Communism, Anarchism, Trotskyism, and really anything else without knowing anything about it.

[Agent Ducky]

And MLs who sit there and do nothing but make ice axe - Trotsky jokes. -________-

[Rafiq]

Both tendencies do the same shit to each other. Actually they are both pretty stupid at times.

[Smyg]

I hate all members of various tendencies who thinks their's is better than others.

Of course, this does not apply to me. :rolleyes:

[Wanted Man]

"Tendencies" are dumb. Who the hell says "tendency", anyway? A complete wanker, that's who. "Oh hai I am of the Trotskyist tendency." Only on Revleft...

[Smyg]

Never heard it in real life, although that might be ascribed to my non-Englishness.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

What the fuck is up with the Republican debates? Everytime I try to watch segments of it and half the crowd inevitably gets into a bloodlust over issues like killing a record number of deathrow inmates or allowing a poor worker to die in a coma so they won't be a "burden on the individual."


Also Political Islam pisses me off more than most things too.

For example here in the U.S. they try to act all moderate and shit, so they identify with basic Right Wing bullfuck, like rampant unapologetic Homophobia and Sexism (Oh we don't hate women, we just think they should do women work while men do men work).

And they are big NWO ZIONIST ZOG BLAH BLAH BLAH conspiracy theorist pricks, it's like STFU.

I can agree to most of the above, in a way.

I swear to fucking God if I have to hear one more Zionist world conspiracy bullshit theory or veiled anti-Semitic nonsense I will fucking shoot someone.

[Le Socialiste]

I fucking hate it when Libertarian 'socialists' try to find common ground with ancaps and Right Wingers, or, even without that, try to sound badass and socially appealing by whining about the state or authority.

I hate it when I see fellow leftists make sweeping generalizations about other leftist tendencies with little to no evidence to back them up. ;)

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I hate how I have a feeling there is a decent chunk of people here who would betray the revolution if it actually happened where they lived just by looking at their posts.

[Susurrus]

I hate it when liberals and democrats are referred to as "socialists" by conservatives. How dare they compare us to them.

[EvilRedGuy]

I fucking hate authoritairan socialists who supports gaddafi, kim jong il, and all those fucking diktator traitors!!!

I fucking hate attackgr that greksuh nationalist religious leftist scum arrghh!!!

I fucking hate fucking anarcho-collectivists dumb bakuninists who dont support free sharing and syndicalist pigs who uses fascist authoritairan trade unoins who shits on workers, we need anarchist sectarianism!!!!!!!!!!!!


:)

[Smyg]

<3 Anarcho-syndicalists, dammit. They were awesome in Spain, and don't you dare argue otherwise. :D

[Wanted Man]

The biggest trade union federation has just given its support to the "casino pension" (gambling with pensions on the stock market), even though the vast majority of its members are opposed. The federation consists of 17 unions, but the two biggest ones (the general industrial union and the civil servants' union) make up more than half of the total membership, and they both emphatically rejected the deal (96.2% of the members of the industrial union, for instance).

However, the federation has approved of the deal because apparently they have the majority in some "representative" federal organ where the voice of 7,000 petit-bourgeois (the union for the self-employed) carries as much weight as that of 365,000 civil servants or 480,000 other workers.

Unsurprisingly, the two biggest unions have withdrawn their confidence in the chairperson of the federation, this little piggy:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5Rs4Nwf31s40y1ibwuoWh5cMGPLak5 E9ba5cKe6VkMmKHqiGG

(note that the text behind her reads: "The most powerful woman of the Netherlands"; for sure, she will be guaranteed a very cushy job in the near future for this particular backstab against the workers)

[Rafiq]

I hate it when I see fellow leftists make sweeping generalizations about other leftist tendencies with little to no evidence to back them up. ;)

Yeah and I hate when Le Socialiste fails to realize that I was apart of that tendency myself for a time, and I probably know more about how Libertarians think than you would expect me to.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

Why the fuck is taxing the rich unthinkable? No, let's tax the poor and cut social safety nets; us rich fucks need our private jets, lobster lunches and limos! If we don't have that money how else are we going to pay for our daughter's 3.4 million dollar sweet 16 and buy her a Ferrari even though she can't technically drive yet? This is class warfare! They're not even contributing! We're the job creators! Damn income tax dodgers with their 20k- incomes, wtf!!! This demonizing the wealthy needs to stop, we're not even doing anything.

Republicans are going to be in for a quite the shock when there actually is class warfare and they have to tangle with real Socialists.

[Agent Ducky]

Okay, today, I saw this status from an ML on facebook
"Anarchy is robbery."
That doesn't even make fucking SENSE.

[Susurrus]

Okay, today, I saw this status from an ML on facebook
"Anarchy is robbery."
That doesn't even make fucking SENSE.

Marxism-Leninism is grand theft auto.
Trotskyism is public indecency.
Maoism is tax evasion.
Hoxhaism is piracy.

[Pretty Flaco]

i had some stupid kid tell me that unions were all full of cushy college kids working at nice jobs.
no gtfo

[Die Rote Fahne]

i had some stupid kid tell me that unions were all full of cushy college kids working at nice jobs.
no gtfo

This brings up a point though. Unions help to improve conditions and those who see workers with those improved conditions, although still not ideal conditions, became jealous. "Those union guys get paid a lot more than me! Ban unions!". It's that mentality supported by propaganda against unions that cause people to view unions negatively. It all comes down to jealousy, in the case of anti-union workers.

[EvilRedGuy]

Unions don't care about the working class, atleast in Denmark they don't.

Unions are not as radical and worker-friendly as they used to be.

[Rafiq]

We had a class experiement in Economics today, comparing "Free Market" economies to "Communist" economies.

Under the Communist one, each of us had to work together on making EACH necklace, which was ridiculous, because the necklace took like 3 minutes to make and, each of us had a different role in making the necklace.

Under the Free Market one, everyone was told that since it is individualistic, each person can make as much necklaces as they like on their own.

What we did is this, every group, was given string, beeds, and scissors. We were supposed to make Necklaces, each of them was like 10 Dollars or whatever.

Now here's the pathetic part: Under the communist experimentt, each group made around 200$, however , the teachers deducted 125$, and said "It goes to the government" and that "Everyone must be equal no matter what".

So every group got 75$.

Afterwords, we tried the Market experiment. Each group made 130$ from the beeds, and produced less.

130$ > 75$
That was our proof that Free Markets are more efficient than command economies.

And nothing was deducted from our labor (Capitalists don't extract surplus value! they make it themselves!).

And you know the sad part? The reason that we produced less under the market experiment is because no one had the incentive to make one on their own, they were just lazy, even though the teacher promised the winner candies or whatever :laugh:, and we were the first class that this experiment was tested on, talk about FAIL :laugh:

Like the whole experiment was set up so the Free Market made more money anyway, but since it didn't, they had to deduct money from the profits made under the Communist model.

Ahahaha, Fuck economics seriously :D

[¿Que?]

We had a class experiement in Economics today, comparing "Free Market" economies to "Communist" economies.

Under the Communist one, each of us had to work together on making EACH necklace, which was ridiculous, because the necklace took like 3 minutes to make and, each of us had a different role in making the necklace.

Under the Free Market one, everyone was told that since it is individualistic, each person can make as much necklaces as they like on their own.

What we did is this, every group, was given string, beeds, and scissors. We were supposed to make Necklaces, each of them was like 10 Dollars or whatever.

Now here's the pathetic part: Under the communist experimentt, each group made around 200$, however , the teachers deducted 125$, and said "It goes to the government" and that "Everyone must be equal no matter what".

So every group got 75$.

Afterwords, we tried the Market experiment. Each group made 130$ from the beeds, and produced less.

130$ > 75$
That was our proof that Free Markets are more efficient than command economies.

And nothing was deducted from our labor (Capitalists don't extract surplus value! they make it themselves!).

And you know the sad part? The reason that we produced less under the market experiment is because no one had the incentive to make one on their own, they were just lazy, even though the teacher promised the winner candies or whatever :laugh:, and we were the first class that this experiment was tested on, talk about FAIL :laugh:

Like the whole experiment was set up so the Free Market made more money anyway, but since it didn't, they had to deduct money from the profits made under the Communist model.

Ahahaha, Fuck economics seriously :D
What a dumb class. OMG, some teachers, seriously. These people are supposed to be educating and instead they're trying to indoctrinate. My god, what a joke!!!

[Rafiq]

Well this shit is not new, the reason I posted it was because of their hilariously epic fail. :laugh:

[¿Que?]

Well this shit is not new, the reason I posted it was because of their hilariously epic fail. :laugh:
Yeah, and out of Detroit Michigan at that. You'd think the teachers there would be a little more conscious, you know, since our glorious system of free enterprise and competition basically decimated that city!

[Rafiq]

No, they try to tell the class that such things are natural and a part of life. Or they'd blame Obama. :rolleyes:

[ColonelCossack]

We had a class experiement in Economics today, comparing "Free Market" economies to "Communist" economies.

Under the Communist one, each of us had to work together on making EACH necklace, which was ridiculous, because the necklace took like 3 minutes to make and, each of us had a different role in making the necklace.

Under the Free Market one, everyone was told that since it is individualistic, each person can make as much necklaces as they like on their own.

What we did is this, every group, was given string, beeds, and scissors. We were supposed to make Necklaces, each of them was like 10 Dollars or whatever.

Now here's the pathetic part: Under the communist experimentt, each group made around 200$, however , the teachers deducted 125$, and said "It goes to the government" and that "Everyone must be equal no matter what".

So every group got 75$.

Afterwords, we tried the Market experiment. Each group made 130$ from the beeds, and produced less.

130$ > 75$
That was our proof that Free Markets are more efficient than command economies.

And nothing was deducted from our labor (Capitalists don't extract surplus value! they make it themselves!).

And you know the sad part? The reason that we produced less under the market experiment is because no one had the incentive to make one on their own, they were just lazy, even though the teacher promised the winner candies or whatever :laugh:, and we were the first class that this experiment was tested on, talk about FAIL :laugh:

Like the whole experiment was set up so the Free Market made more money anyway, but since it didn't, they had to deduct money from the profits made under the Communist model.

Ahahaha, Fuck economics seriously :D

That actually made me facepalm.