Sick of the Anti-Guevara propaganda.

[Kornilios Sunshine]

I am so fuckin' tired of how many anticommunist people are there on Yahoo Answers.

Enjoy some anti-Guevara answers to questions.(The same happens for other,Stalin,Lenin etc.)

Q:How many were killed by Che Guevara?
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Q:Was Che Guevara more Socialist or Communist?
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Q:Was Che Guevara a communist?
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Q:Are all americans brainwashed to hate che guevara or any marxist leader?
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Fuck the Anti-Che Guevara propaganda!:cursing:

[El Louton]

Totally agree with you there mate! Che was a hero yet the 'west' portray him as an evil murder. Vile el Che!

[TheGodlessUtopian]

It is infuriating to an unending degree that people can be so unbearably stupid...about everything.

Another reason why Che is one of my heroes! :che:

[Kornilios Sunshine]

We won't tolerate this anymore.Break the Anti-Guevara propaganda.Guevarists,Unite! :che:

[Catmatic Leftist]

Yea, I would like an answer to this argument as well:


You put the guy in your signature. There must be something you like about him if you're willing to see his name every single time you post.

Also, your comment "i do not admire him, but i respect what he stood for" makes absolutely no sense. To respect someone is to hold them in esteem. To esteem someone is to hold them in high regard. That sounds like admiration to me.

Che Guevara stood for lawless, brutal murder. He stood for racism, anger, and unapolgetic warefare. He stood for hatred and blind rage. He was enthralled with the idea of wiping out anyone who stood in his way and shooting innocents if it meant getting what he wanted. Is this what you respect?

Or maybe you respect his Marxist ideologies? Sorry to break it to you, but Che was a devout follower of the Book of Marxism. Both the man and the ideology must answer for his decisions.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

We won't tolerate this anymore.Break the Anti-Guevara propaganda.Guevarists,Unite! :che:

A group should be formed to develop intelligent counter-arguments to conservative ignorance.Not just on revleft but it should have its own website and actively take part in countering the misinformation on other-sites (such as Yahoo answers and the like).

[ВАЛТЕР]

How can such lies be placed against him. The man was a humanitarian in every sense of the word. Executions, sure they had executions. In times of war for liberation, executions are common and for the most part justifiable. Che was a liberator, a soldier, a revolutionary, a Marxist, and a good man above all. The man went from having a comfortable life as a doctor in Argentina to fighting wars of liberation in jungles for nations that he had nothing to do with. He is an example of a revolutionary, in my eyes he stands as one fo the most brilliant men of the 20th Century and no amount of capitalist propaganda can change that.

Hasta la victoria para siempre, Commadante.!:che:

[Dogs On Acid]

Can't help notice the amount of programs running on your taskbar

[thriller]

Che was, as Валтер said, a doctor and well off person. He went and saw the tragedies that capitalism caused. He was, as I have read, so heartbroken and distraught that he gave up EVERYTHING for people he didn't even know. But yeah I guess that makes him a monster?

[DeBon]

I'm not Che's biggest fan, but I do highly respect his actions and remember him as one of the greatest revolutionaries in the history of the world. I just find it ironic how so many people try to profit off his image via the free market. Pretty sad if you ask me.

[xub3rn00dlex]

I literally LOL'd at the answer given when they said he helped no one but the sharks. Holy shit at the dumb things some people can write. Those damn commie sharks!!! What'll they think of next? :rolleyes:

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Can't help notice the amount of programs running on your taskbar
ROFL! :laugh:

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Oh, and there are some people who wear Che T-Shirts and only know that he was a revolutionary.And for those who don't know,you tell them he was a Marxist-Communist and they say "THAT COMMIE ASSASIN BASTARD"!How fucking pathetic.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Oh, and there are some people who wear Che T-Shirts and only know that he was a revolutionary.And for those who don't know,you tell them he was a Marxist-Communist and they say "THAT COMMIE ASSASIN BASTARD"!How fucking pathetic.

I'm sure Che would have loved being part of a massive marketing campaign carried d out by the same system he sought to destroy. I love Che, but I couldn't wear a Che T-shirt unless I made it myself.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I think there are probably more important things to do in the world right now than defend a bloke whose been dead nigh on 50 years on Yahoo Answers.

[Fopeos]

I've tried to research the claims of torture and execution and can't find anything credible. I know Che presided over some trials at La Cabana fortress, and that some of those trials led to executions, but only to some of the worst of Batista's thugs. As far as his time in combat, his clemency was actually a bit frustrating to some of his own men. Those enemy troops who fell into their hands were disarmed and treated with respect before being released. When fighting a revolution, one has to take the moral high-ground.
We'll always have this type of slander. People will always demonize revolutionary leaders.

[Kornilios Sunshine]

We'll always have this type of slander. People will always demonize revolutionary leaders.
Exactly this.In addition, I have noticed that people also hate Stalin and Lenin.Well you know why?Because Stalin won and Lenin became a great leader and a succesfull writer.And of course,some people don't want the world to be OK, so this is why the reason they hate them.Oh,and I have not noticed anyone hating Marx as they hate Che,Lenin,Stalin etc.This happens because despite the fact Marx was a great and correct writer,he did not strengthened communism not so by revoluting but by writing.I think it is common knowledge that most people(especially capitalists,communists)hate a revolution because they don't wanna the workers to defend their right ,but they want them to be exploited.That is what Che stood against(workers' exploitation) so that's why they hate him.As for those who say he killed,yes he killed.But they were chasing them,he could be killed instead.What should he have done?He never attacked anyone,he defended himself.People who say he killed kids and whoever was against his ideologies,are either stupid ass kids that listened that from their parents and if not kids,they are stupid people who have not studied him.;)

[Rodrigo]

Can't help notice the amount of programs running on your taskbar

Y3p!1!!one1! |\|00b d373c73d1!1!


Well, I have a book by Che here, I'll translate it to English some day, it's called "Ideas by a soldier of America to the world of today -- thought of Ernesto Che Guevara" (Idéias de um soldado da América para o mundo de hoje -- pensamento de Ernesto Che Guevara).

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Y3p!1!!one1! |\|00b d373c73d1!1!
C'mon I am not a noob.:(.Most of the programms aren't used at all.Like MalwareBytes,MegaManager and Dropbox. :cool:

[Summerspeaker]

I've tried to research the claims of torture and execution and can't find anything credible.

Guevara executed - either personally or by order - a number of deserters and suspected traitors during the war against Batista. Eutimio Guerra (http://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/1963/reminiscences/ch06.htm), a peasant guide who sold information about the rebels' position, serves as one example. Guevara's emotional detachment from violence and insistence on iron discipline gave em a reputation among fellow revolutionaries - see the Jon Lee Anderson biography. The allegations of cowardice look absurd to anyone familiar with Guevara's life, but ey was an self-righteous authoritarian who killed and coerced in order to establish communism as ey understood it. As a queer anarchist, I'm not a huge fan. Guevara's record, like that of all historical great leftist dudes, deserves both praise and criticism. Most of the attacks simply support U.S. capitalism and imperialism with extreme hypocrisy, but that doesn't make Guevara a saint.

[Dogs On Acid]

C'mon I am not a noob.:(.Most of the programms aren't used at all.Like MalwareBytes,MegaManager and Dropbox. :cool:

Exactly my point.

[Rodrigo]

C'mon I am not a noob.:(.Most of the programms aren't used at all.Like MalwareBytes,MegaManager and Dropbox. :cool:

Doesn't all these programs on background slow your PC?

[Iron Felix]

I really laughed at the Bill Clinton being given keys to the playboy mansion part.

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Doesn't all these programs on background slow your PC?
No and that's what has impressed me. :p

[ВАЛТЕР]

Guevara executed - either personally or by order - a number of deserters and suspected traitors during the war against Batista. Eutimio Guerra (http://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/1963/reminiscences/ch06.htm), a peasant guide who sold information about the rebels' position, serves as one example. Guevara's emotional detachment from violence and insistence on iron discipline gave em a reputation among fellow revolutionaries - see the Jon Lee Anderson biography. The allegations of cowardice look absurd to anyone familiar with Guevara's life, but ey was an self-righteous authoritarian who killed and coerced in order to establish communism as ey understood it. As a queer anarchist, I'm not a huge fan. Guevara's record, like that of all historical great leftist dudes, deserves both praise and criticism. Most of the attacks simply support U.S. capitalism and imperialism with extreme hypocrisy, but that doesn't make Guevara a saint.

Guevara's executions of deserters, and traitors was standard procedure for any revolutionary force then and it is now. You simply cannot have traitors amongst your ranks, and if they aren't disciplined and made examples of, the moral of the troops can falter.

As for the peasant who was executed for giving away their position, the execution was also justified. Who knows how many deaths the man had caused because of his actions. If Che hadn't had him killed it would also cause the men to question his resolve. Che defended the peasants and made sure his troops did not steal from or abuse them in any way.

I'm just going to have to disagree with your view of these actions as being wrong. Any other course of action would have been counter-revolutionary in my eyes.

[Rodrigo]

Guevara executed - either personally or by order - a number of deserters and suspected traitors during the war against Batista. (...) Most of the attacks simply support U.S. capitalism and imperialism with extreme hypocrisy, but that doesn't make Guevara a saint.

Does the people killed by him deserved the shots? As you wrote, yes! Any traitor has to be shot, specially in the revolutionary period. Or many of Batista's soldiers.

Nothing makes someone saint or demon; anyone who claims something like that is stupid, since in no way someone can be entirely "evil" or entirely "good", whatever these words mean. Dialectics... =)

[Tim Cornelis]

Exactly this.In addition, I have noticed that people also hate Stalin and Lenin.Well you know why?Because Stalin won and Lenin became a great leader and a succesfull writer.And of course,some people don't want the world to be OK, so this is why the reason they hate them.Oh,and I have not noticed anyone hating Marx as they hate Che,Lenin,Stalin etc.This happens because despite the fact Marx was a great and correct writer,he did not strengthened communism not so by revoluting but by writing.I think it is common knowledge that most people(especially capitalists,communists)hate a revolution because they don't wanna the workers to defend their right ,but they want them to be exploited.That is what Che stood against(workers' exploitation) so that's why they hate him.As for those who say he killed,yes he killed.But they were chasing them,he could be killed instead.What should he have done?He never attacked anyone,he defended himself.People who say he killed kids and whoever was against his ideologies,are either stupid ass kids that listened that from their parents and if not kids,they are stupid people who have not studied him.;)


Because Stalin won and Lenin became a great leader and a succesfull writer.And of course,some people don't want the world to be OK, so this is why the reason they hate them.

Are you flippin' frickin' kiddin' me? That is such infantile logic. It's the same logic capitalists apply to socialism "oh, you just hate capitalism because you are a failure (poor)", or "oh, you just jealous".

Maybe, just maybe people hate Stalin because he: 1) killed millions 2) killed millions. He wasn't even a socialist.

[Dogs On Acid]

Maybe, just maybe people hate Stalin because he: 1) killed millions 2) killed millions.

Ok.


He wasn't even a socialist.

Not Ok. Is that even an argument?

[Smyg]

Socialist? Definitely. A murderous, paranoid and extremely authoritarian leader? Absolutely.

[Smyg]

Does the people killed by him deserved the shots? As you wrote, yes! Any traitor has to be shot, specially in the revolutionary period. Or many of Batista's soldiers.



I definitely don't agree with that all traitors deserve death, but during war and revolution most of my moral rules are indeed off the table.

[SJBarley]

While I find the insinuation that Ernesto was anything other than a hero totally laughable, comments such as those really do get my blood boiling.

[Kamos]

Is Cuba a Hindu country now? Or what is this bullshit about Cubans not allowed to eat beef? (It's rationed out for fuck's sake!)

[Smyg]

Castro forcibly converted the country to Hinduism back in '78, don'tchaknow?

[Summerspeaker]

Guevara's executions of deserters, and traitors was standard procedure for any revolutionary force then and it is now. You simply cannot have traitors amongst your ranks, and if they aren't disciplined and made examples of, the moral of the troops can falter.

Yeah, and it's one of the reasons I'm not interested guerrilla warfare. Shoot-the-informant isn't a fun game.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Is Cuba a Hindu country now? Or what is this bullshit about Cubans not allowed to eat beef? (It's rationed out for fuck's sake!)

There's plenty of beef in Cuba. It's just that it's shit.

And when I say plenty, I exaggerate, but there's certainly a fair amount of it. I'll stop before I start sounding like George Bush.

[El Louton]

Lets not forget the regimes which fell due to Che's actions! Those regimes were ruthless murders of innocent people unlike Che.

[The Dark Side of the Moon]

i am also tired. they should make a leftistanswers.yahoo.com

[El Louton]

or we could just create loads of accounts and post leftist views to every political question?

[tir1944]

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul.
Lenin

[Kornilios Sunshine]

or we could just create loads of accounts and post leftist views to every political question?
Guess what?They ban you or your vote will get negative vote and it will get down.Fuck this.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Yeah, and it's one of the reasons I'm not interested guerrilla warfare. Shoot-the-informant isn't a fun game. Unfortunately it's something that cannot be detached from conflict, not simply guerrilla warfare, so long as the police are willing to enter whatever level of society it wants in order to monitor it.

[Mitja]

im a big fan of che and many people dont like me beacuse of that.

the best think to do is to ignore them. They will run out of steam soon

[tir1944]

Case in point:
http://www.theblog.es/wp-content/uploads/che_coca_cola.png