Why won't the admins let me post?

[Pro-MyIdeals]

i'm putting this in this forum because it is the only one i have "permission" to post in...i'd like to know why the admins have taken away my "permission" to voice my opinions on the other forums

this website is supposed to be about being free to voice your opnions and winning freedom and equality for all people, correct? then why do you exclude certain people from posting? fear? jealousy?

if you preach equality for the masses, at least act like it

[Politrickian]

This board is for discussion about leftist theory which is discussed under leftist.

Although we would like to see the board unrestricted, if unrestricted it is almost inevitable that every thread turns into a Capitalism vs Communism discussion, which is not what we'd like to see.

However, for the occasional break from the leftist voice we have the OI, for people like you. We like to call people like you "capitalist scum" "vomit" "my pet dog" and "I like the microwave" and when we put Malte to power as a dictator of the world(which is what we strive for) people like you will be sent to our gulags in Siberia and some lucky ones get a free vacation to a ski resort in Austria.

That is all.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

sounds great...do you not realize that you contradict yourself? you want the world united and at peace, yet you want to exclude people...makes no sense...you are very ignorant :P

[Rastafari]

hard to say why you were kicked out, other than the fact that this site is run by Anti-Zionists.

There is still hope!
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/texture/flag/angola.gif

[(*]

Probably because you said you are a "cappie", and technically "cappie's" are only supposed to post in the OI forum.

You never posted anything offensive though, so I don't necessarily agree with your restriction.

PM one of the admins, if you haven't already, and see what they say.

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 05:31 PM
hard to say why you were kicked out, other than the fact that this site is run by Anti-Zionists.


I don't recall him posting anything pro-zionist. Just that he is a "cappie"

[Pro-MyIdeals]

i e-mailed the "no reply" thingie and no one got back to me...i may be a cappie, but i'm also a staunch democrat...i'm kind of a fiscal conservative, but social liberal...i hate repubs as much as you guys do...i just don't agree 100% economically, but socially i agree with most of what you guys do

[Dhul Fiqar]

We don't want to exclude anyone - but remember that you arrived here just now and have no idea what the history of this forum is.

In "the old days" it was like you say it should be - anyone could post anywhere. It was fucking IMPOSSIBLE to talk about even the simplest things - we had people coming into threada about gardening going: "YOU FUCKING COMMIES MAKE ME SICK!!! AMERICA RULEZZZZZZ!!!!!" People posting personal issues from their lives got harassed by capitalists - and no one wants to share intimate things with their friends knowing that some dickwad is going to come along and deliberately try to hurt their feelings because they disagree on completely unrelated issues (i.e. political ideology).

Having a mixed forum of socialists and others doesn't work - there is not enough of us versus you for one thing. This is a community for leftists - not a community for all of humanity. We come here to discuss issues that pertain to socialism and to socialize with likeminded people - not to take abuse. We get lots of that in real life already for our beliefs.

If you don't like it - go find a forum for people more akin to your kind of thinking. There are at least a thousand times more of them than there are dedicated socialist forums - and you are not going to make us feel guilty for having a small corner of the web for ourselves (and WE are paying for it).

--- G.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

hmm...sounds like a "if you don't like it, then leave!" attitude you seem to dislike so much...kinda ironic, don't ya think...i think i could have contributed quite well to many social freedom issues on this website...too bad...your loss...i'm out like a fat chick in dodgeball

[Pro-MyIdeals]

however, i would still like to contribute to the science and environment portion, considering i have a degree in that stuff...i feel i could contribute a lot, but alas, no more

[Pete]

I've been banned from enough rightwing forums to say that you are lucky that the admin let you post at all. Many forums ban rightwingers, and by the way, what makes you think that being a democrat means anything here? They are Republican-Lites.

[Pete]

Originally posted by (*+Oct 27 2003, 04:37 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE ((* @ Oct 27 2003, 04:37 PM)
[email protected] 27 2003, 05:31 PM
hard to say why you were kicked out, other than the fact that this site is run by Anti-Zionists.


I don&#39;t recall him posting anything pro-zionist. Just that he is a "cappie" [/b]
Exactly ... He is a cappie and therefore cagged.

On the other hand, are you blind enough not to see his avatar?

[BuyOurEverything]

This Community is open to all leftists. Right-wingers are not welcome, but tolerated within this and only this forum. Right-wing messages will be ignored or deleted in all other forums and the author will be banned. If you are a right-winger or convinced capitalist and can accept this rule, good. If not, fuck off and never come back&#33;
We were forced into this meassure by some cappies which infiltrated the community and turned every thread into a general debate, a healthy discussion was impossible. This is a leftist BB (a private place, not a society or country&#33;), so please hold on with pathetic speeches about freedom of speech now.
Of course the general community rules are still valid here: No posts which are rascist, anti-semitic, knowingly false and/or defamatory, hateful, threatening, invasive of a person&#39;s privacy.

[Dhul Fiqar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 05:49 AM
hmm...sounds like a "if you don&#39;t like it, then leave&#33;" attitude you seem to dislike so much...kinda ironic, don&#39;t ya think...i think i could have contributed quite well to many social freedom issues on this website...too bad...your loss...i&#39;m out like a fat chick in dodgeball
You evidently did not read what I wrote:

This is a SOCIALIST website.

Try going to a website about Volleyball and start talking about basketball. Won&#39;t work any better.

--- G.

[sledovatel]

just don&#39;t worry about posting in the other sections. they don&#39;t like new ideas or ideas that oppose theirs, so it would really just be a waste of your time. here, however, you can post all the ideas that you want, (as long as they aren&#39;t too extreme for these guys).

and dhul, i think you are totally right. you explain the problem with socialism in just two sentences: "Having a mixed forum of socialists and others doesn&#39;t work - there is not enough of us versus you for one thing. This is a community for leftists - not a community for all of humanity." all you have to do is put the word "world" in place of "forum." and they claim they like diversity... haha

-s

[RedCeltic]

um... Dhul... what exactly has this person done, besides saying they are a cappie? In the past, I&#39;ve seen plenty of people who call themselves Social Democrats, posting all over the board, while they are socially progressive... those people are still capitalists. Now, if he&#39;s something like Capitalist Imperial, than I understand.

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 06:13 PM


On the other hand, are you blind enough not to see his avatar?
I saw his avatar. It means nothing.

I&#39;m not going to jump to conclusions about his beliefs based solely on his avatar.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 12:03 AM
just don&#39;t worry about posting in the other sections. they don&#39;t like new ideas or ideas that oppose theirs, so it would really just be a waste of your time. here, however, you can post all the ideas that you want, (as long as they aren&#39;t too extreme for these guys).

and dhul, i think you are totally right. you explain the problem with socialism in just two sentences: "Having a mixed forum of socialists and others doesn&#39;t work - there is not enough of us versus you for one thing. This is a community for leftists - not a community for all of humanity." all you have to do is put the word "world" in place of "forum." and they claim they like diversity... haha

-s
i think i&#39;ll stick around for a bit...it might be fun...but i still would like to post in science and environment...i am trained in that field, and i believe i can contribute to that forum...oh well, we&#39;ll see

[Pete]

Israel is a Zionist creation, and holding such an avatar shows, in theory, support for such an idea. Someone with an American flag as an avatar is often cagged on the assumption of being an American nationalist. Stalinsts have Stalin avatars. Ect.

[Exploited Class]

this website is supposed to be about being free to voice your opinions and winning freedom and equality for all people, correct?

No, haven&#39;t you read the communist manifesto? Right in there Marx says, "Create a website and make capitalist post in just one area. Removing all their personal freedoms."


then why do you exclude certain people from posting? fear? jealousy?
It was out of pure jealousy. I saw you post so many wonderful things that I just got really super jealous and went, "Oh lucky me, he is a capitalist now I don&#39;t have to see somebody better than me post elsewhere." It is one of my shortcomings, I have to admit. And yes I was pretty scared to tell you the truth. I am now taking pills to help me over this fear and taking a few classes at the learning annex to get over it.

Anybody that thinks they can put fear and jealousy into somebody on a message board has to have one of the biggest egos ever. You must think you are the top of the pile to think you would be restricted because you make people jealous and scared of you.


if you preach equality for the masses, at least act like it
We talked about it about you are right, we have changed the name from che-lives.com to everythingaboutanything.com and there is absolutely no structure in it and it will be a utopia of personal freedoms. There will be forums, but you know what, you don&#39;t have to have your personal rights stepped on and controlled there, you can post any kind of topic under any forum you want. There are no restricted members, even people spamming about low mortgages are allowed there. Oh man, that is a newsgroup I forgot...


you are very ignorant
i would still like to contribute to the science and environment portion, considering i have a degree in that stuff

You have a degree and everything yet somehow this one sentence was beyond your ability to understand?
Only forum where right-wingers, cappies, stalinists and other misguided individuals are allowed to post.

Somehow you just thought that applied to all capitalists except yourself? You are special in some way I guess?


not true...i&#39;m a cappie and i deeply care about nature

Again I have to go back to you having such a big ego. What part of ONLY, CAPPIE and ALLOWED do you not understand? I would think that somebody with a degree could understand that pretty well. But you are not adult enough to follow rules when a guest someplace. When you are guest at somebody&#39;s house and they ask you, "please don&#39;t go into my bedroom" is that the first place you go?

If I go to fark.com and they have a rule, do not post not safe for work pictures in the thread. Does that apply to everybody else but me? Maybe I am somehow special and allowed to because I made a new rule like, I can be a capitalist but if I am a liberal one it is okay for me to do it. Since I think that is correct...

Did you send a message to the Admins saying, "Look I know you have a rule about capitalists posting outside of OI forum, and I am a capitalist, I am wondering if it would be okay if I did?" Did you do something adult like that? Or was it just a fuck it, I do what I want kind of thing?

And so like what, I restricted you yesterday and you sent us a Personal message and we didn&#39;t get back to you within the time frame you defined as being appropriate, and when we didn&#39;t do that you decided you could make a topic about your social injustice, flaming us, calling us hypocrites and ignorant because you broke a rule and we enforced it. That is what my 4 year old cousin does when he doesn&#39;t get his way, he whines really loud.

If you showed some respect to the board, the rules and the people that ran it, you might not have been restricted at all. But I guess they don’t teach respect to capitalists, the board belongs completely to you just like the rest of the world is your oyster.

[CubanFox]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 07:31 AM
http://astronomy.swin.edu.au/~pbourke/texture/flag/angola.gif
¡Viva la MPLA&#33;

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Exploited [email protected] 28 2003, 06:28 AM

this website is supposed to be about being free to voice your opinions and winning freedom and equality for all people, correct?

No, haven&#39;t you read the communist manifesto? Right in there Marx says, "Create a website and make capitalist post in just one area. Removing all their personal freedoms."


then why do you exclude certain people from posting? fear? jealousy?
It was out of pure jealousy. I saw you post so many wonderful things that I just got really super jealous and went, "Oh lucky me, he is a capitalist now I don&#39;t have to see somebody better than me post elsewhere." It is one of my shortcomings, I have to admit. And yes I was pretty scared to tell you the truth. I am now taking pills to help me over this fear and taking a few classes at the learning annex to get over it.

Anybody that thinks they can put fear and jealousy into somebody on a message board has to have one of the biggest egos ever. You must think you are the top of the pile to think you would be restricted because you make people jealous and scared of you.


if you preach equality for the masses, at least act like it
We talked about it about you are right, we have changed the name from che-lives.com to everythingaboutanything.com and there is absolutely no structure in it and it will be a utopia of personal freedoms. There will be forums, but you know what, you don&#39;t have to have your personal rights stepped on and controlled there, you can post any kind of topic under any forum you want. There are no restricted members, even people spamming about low mortgages are allowed there. Oh man, that is a newsgroup I forgot...


you are very ignorant
i would still like to contribute to the science and environment portion, considering i have a degree in that stuff

You have a degree and everything yet somehow this one sentence was beyond your ability to understand?
Only forum where right-wingers, cappies, stalinists and other misguided individuals are allowed to post.

Somehow you just thought that applied to all capitalists except yourself? You are special in some way I guess?


not true...i&#39;m a cappie and i deeply care about nature

Again I have to go back to you having such a big ego. What part of ONLY, CAPPIE and ALLOWED do you not understand? I would think that somebody with a degree could understand that pretty well. But you are not adult enough to follow rules when a guest someplace. When you are guest at somebody&#39;s house and they ask you, "please don&#39;t go into my bedroom" is that the first place you go?

If I go to fark.com and they have a rule, do not post not safe for work pictures in the thread. Does that apply to everybody else but me? Maybe I am somehow special and allowed to because I made a new rule like, I can be a capitalist but if I am a liberal one it is okay for me to do it. Since I think that is correct...

Did you send a message to the Admins saying, "Look I know you have a rule about capitalists posting outside of OI forum, and I am a capitalist, I am wondering if it would be okay if I did?" Did you do something adult like that? Or was it just a fuck it, I do what I want kind of thing?

And so like what, I restricted you yesterday and you sent us a Personal message and we didn&#39;t get back to you within the time frame you defined as being appropriate, and when we didn&#39;t do that you decided you could make a topic about your social injustice, flaming us, calling us hypocrites and ignorant because you broke a rule and we enforced it. That is what my 4 year old cousin does when he doesn&#39;t get his way, he whines really loud.

If you showed some respect to the board, the rules and the people that ran it, you might not have been restricted at all. But I guess they don’t teach respect to capitalists, the board belongs completely to you just like the rest of the world is your oyster.
All I have to say, is enjoyed your post Exploited Class. Had some valid arguments and the way you made PMI clear what you wanted to say is quit amusing. I like your style and you have been added to my buddylist I always respect somebody with a good sense of humor ;)

[Dhul Fiqar]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 08:03 AM
and dhul, i think you are totally right. you explain the problem with socialism in just two sentences: "Having a mixed forum of socialists and others doesn&#39;t work - there is not enough of us versus you for one thing. This is a community for leftists - not a community for all of humanity." all you have to do is put the word "world" in place of "forum." and they claim they like diversity... haha

-s
Like EC said - if you want a forum about anything at all - go to everythingaboutanything.com or something to that effect - you would have to be a retarded baby chimpanzee to not understand the concept of Internet forums. It is really quite simple:

Internet forums tend to be DEDICATED TO A PARTICULAR SUBJECTMATTER. People do not appreciate spending their time and money maintaining an open space for anyone to say anything - what would be the point of us keeping this site up just for YOU to post whatever the fuck you want? Start your own damned forum for that - we started this one for a particular purpose.

Now I hope you go ***** at ALL FORUMS dedicated to football, basketball, movies, tv shows, bonzai trees, whatever. Because if you don&#39;t - you are just mouthing off against socialists with absolutely no objective point about personal freedoms. Either you think no forum should have a particular policy and it is the duty of people around the world to spend their money on servers for you to personally post whatever you want on - or you are actually not mentally handycapped. Giving you the benefit of the doubt - I assume the latter.

--- G.

[sledovatel]

sorry, dhul, i thought i was following your rules of only posting our opinions and ideas here in the OI. i thought this was dedicated to the right-wing, cappies, etc. to post their views while allowing you people to blabber on about left wing nonsense in peace in the other parts of the forum. as this site is dedicated to socialist causes, one would think that the opposing ideologies section would allow for dissent from socialist thought, hence the "opposing" part. is that not the policy here?

-s

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Exploited [email protected] 28 2003, 06:28 AM

this website is supposed to be about being free to voice your opinions and winning freedom and equality for all people, correct?

No, haven&#39;t you read the communist manifesto? Right in there Marx says, "Create a website and make capitalist post in just one area. Removing all their personal freedoms."


then why do you exclude certain people from posting? fear? jealousy?
It was out of pure jealousy. I saw you post so many wonderful things that I just got really super jealous and went, "Oh lucky me, he is a capitalist now I don&#39;t have to see somebody better than me post elsewhere." It is one of my shortcomings, I have to admit. And yes I was pretty scared to tell you the truth. I am now taking pills to help me over this fear and taking a few classes at the learning annex to get over it.

Anybody that thinks they can put fear and jealousy into somebody on a message board has to have one of the biggest egos ever. You must think you are the top of the pile to think you would be restricted because you make people jealous and scared of you.


if you preach equality for the masses, at least act like it
We talked about it about you are right, we have changed the name from che-lives.com to everythingaboutanything.com and there is absolutely no structure in it and it will be a utopia of personal freedoms. There will be forums, but you know what, you don&#39;t have to have your personal rights stepped on and controlled there, you can post any kind of topic under any forum you want. There are no restricted members, even people spamming about low mortgages are allowed there. Oh man, that is a newsgroup I forgot...


you are very ignorant
i would still like to contribute to the science and environment portion, considering i have a degree in that stuff

You have a degree and everything yet somehow this one sentence was beyond your ability to understand?
Only forum where right-wingers, cappies, stalinists and other misguided individuals are allowed to post.

Somehow you just thought that applied to all capitalists except yourself? You are special in some way I guess?


not true...i&#39;m a cappie and i deeply care about nature

Again I have to go back to you having such a big ego. What part of ONLY, CAPPIE and ALLOWED do you not understand? I would think that somebody with a degree could understand that pretty well. But you are not adult enough to follow rules when a guest someplace. When you are guest at somebody&#39;s house and they ask you, "please don&#39;t go into my bedroom" is that the first place you go?

If I go to fark.com and they have a rule, do not post not safe for work pictures in the thread. Does that apply to everybody else but me? Maybe I am somehow special and allowed to because I made a new rule like, I can be a capitalist but if I am a liberal one it is okay for me to do it. Since I think that is correct...

Did you send a message to the Admins saying, "Look I know you have a rule about capitalists posting outside of OI forum, and I am a capitalist, I am wondering if it would be okay if I did?" Did you do something adult like that? Or was it just a fuck it, I do what I want kind of thing?

And so like what, I restricted you yesterday and you sent us a Personal message and we didn&#39;t get back to you within the time frame you defined as being appropriate, and when we didn&#39;t do that you decided you could make a topic about your social injustice, flaming us, calling us hypocrites and ignorant because you broke a rule and we enforced it. That is what my 4 year old cousin does when he doesn&#39;t get his way, he whines really loud.

If you showed some respect to the board, the rules and the people that ran it, you might not have been restricted at all. But I guess they don’t teach respect to capitalists, the board belongs completely to you just like the rest of the world is your oyster.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
oh you make me laugh...you are too funny, and quite defensive...you really need to calm down your anger or it will take a toll on your ticker...you seem to have a low tolerance for others

[elijahcraig]

I think the man with the Zionist avatar summed it up, his own condition here, perfectly: If you don&#39;t like it...leave.

[Rastafari]

If you don&#39;t like it...leave.
http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?a...8&t=18506&st=40 (http://www.che-lives.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=8&t=18506&st=40)

[elijahcraig]

What the hell was that?

Arguing for "equal rights" on a message board is idiotic, which is what he is doing. Trying to "pin" down communists against capitalists.

I am A Communist on a leftist website.

Also not a nazi Zionist.

[BuyOurEverything]

sorry, dhul, i thought i was following your rules of only posting our opinions and ideas here in the OI. i thought this was dedicated to the right-wing, cappies, etc. to post their views while allowing you people to blabber on about left wing nonsense in peace in the other parts of the forum. as this site is dedicated to socialist causes, one would think that the opposing ideologies section would allow for dissent from socialist thought, hence the "opposing" part. is that not the policy here?

What the hell are you talking about?

Pro-My: The reason you aren&#39;t allowed to post in the rest of the board is that it&#39;s a place for socialists to talk about socialism. Since you don&#39;t believe in socialism, it would turn all of our threads about the details of socialism into general socialism vs. capitalism threads, which is what OI is about. We&#39;re not afraid of discussing it, in fact we have a whole forum devoted to it, we just don&#39;t want it to be the only thing we talk about. Having said that, I think you should be allowed to post in Science and Environment and Philosophy but, hey, what do I know?

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 02:19 AM

sorry, dhul, i thought i was following your rules of only posting our opinions and ideas here in the OI. i thought this was dedicated to the right-wing, cappies, etc. to post their views while allowing you people to blabber on about left wing nonsense in peace in the other parts of the forum. as this site is dedicated to socialist causes, one would think that the opposing ideologies section would allow for dissent from socialist thought, hence the "opposing" part. is that not the policy here?

What the hell are you talking about?

Pro-My: The reason you aren&#39;t allowed to post in the rest of the board is that it&#39;s a place for socialists to talk about socialism. Since you don&#39;t believe in socialism, it would turn all of our threads about the details of socialism into general socialism vs. capitalism threads, which is what OI is about. We&#39;re not afraid of discussing it, in fact we have a whole forum devoted to it, we just don&#39;t want it to be the only thing we talk about. Having said that, I think you should be allowed to post in Science and Environment and Philosophy but, hey, what do I know?
as i&#39;ve said before...i agree with you guys on most social issues...if you want, i&#39;ll stay out of the economic ones...i also agree with you, as i&#39;ve said before, that i should be able to post in the science forum....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...a lot of people are jumping to conclusions about me, and they don&#39;t even know me...it&#39;s all about casting stones to some

[Blackberry]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...
This is a message board for leftists. Consequently, only leftists are allowed access to almost all/all forums.

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.

...I don&#39;t know how hard it can be for a capitalist/pro-capitalist to go to a capitalist board to talk about science...

[Blackberry]

Originally posted by Comrade James+Oct 29 2003, 02:31 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Comrade James @ Oct 29 2003, 02:31 PM)
[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...
This is a message board for leftists. Consequently, only leftists are allowed access to almost all/all forums.

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.

...I don&#39;t know how hard it can be for a capitalist/pro-capitalist to go to a capitalist board to talk about science... [/b]
And besides, the leftists of this forum have voted on the subject, and the vote is well against you being unrestricted.

[Bodyguard]

I am sure it will not change anything but can you explain how this vote was taken and what were the actual numbers for and against?

[commie kg]

Originally posted by [email protected] 28 2003, 10:48 PM
I am sure it will not change anything but can you explain how this vote was taken and what were the actual numbers for and against?
The votes are taken in the private leftist forum. You can&#39;t see it, because you don&#39;t have access.

There was a vote for your restriction as well.

[Bodyguard]

Originally posted by commie kg+Oct 29 2003, 06:59 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (commie kg @ Oct 29 2003, 06:59 AM)
[email protected] 28 2003, 10:48 PM
I am sure it will not change anything but can you explain how this vote was taken and what were the actual numbers for and against?
The votes are taken in the private leftist forum. You can&#39;t see it, because you don&#39;t have access.

There was a vote for your restriction as well. [/b]
I assumed I would be restricted, I read the rules of this forum and dont have a problem with the them. I asked one of the Mods what would get one banned or restricted the day after I joined. I was just wondering if you would be open enough to show the actual vote for ProMyIdeals since he seemed to really want to post on the Science forum. I find the forum stimulating to read and post on. The OI forum has the most activity anyway, so thanks for not banning me.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Comrade James+Oct 29 2003, 03:31 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Comrade James @ Oct 29 2003, 03:31 AM)
[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.

[/b]
Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...

[BuyOurEverything]

And besides, the leftists of this forum have voted on the subject, and the vote is well against you being unrestricted.

I voted to keep him restricted because I dono&#39;t want him posting in political forums but I still think he should be allowed to post in Sci&Environ and Philosophy etc.

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Desert Fox+Oct 29 2003, 09:44 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Desert Fox @ Oct 29 2003, 09:44 AM)
Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ... [/b]
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up

[Jesus Christ]

Ideals, just give it a rest
ure not making any progress here
all you are doing is making people angry
either accept that you are restricted or LEAVE
NO means NO
look it up in the dictionary, a REAL dictionary

[(*]

He was restricted for saying he was a cappie. Eventhough his posts never actually reflected that ideology. However, he also said some of his views are on the socialistic side.

How many people are pure communists, or socialists, or anarchists? Most people like certain aspects from each ideology.

capitalism is private or corporate ownership of goods (or whatever), and competing in a free market. I have no problem with this. I take issue with corporations exploiting people, and taking part in collusion etc...

So some of my ideals are akin to capitalism, is that so bad?

[elijahcraig]

Yes/.

[Rastafari]

I think I would have been restricted my whole first month here if these rules had been so strict back in the day. I had to interact with the good people here before I developed strong convictions from my weaker views(not like some of the damn RATM communists who are because Tom Morello said it was cool).

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:13 PM
Yes/.
Why is that?

Is it the idea of a free market or a business (or individual) making any kind of profit ?

[elijahcraig]

You really haven&#39;t picked up on why Capitalism is bad yet?

:lol:

[(*]

I know how capitalism is put into practice.
I&#39;m merely talking theory, in its strictest definition

Same way when I talk about communism, I don&#39;t take into consideration the so called "Communist" Countries.

[elijahcraig]

Marx explained how capitalism misunderstands the relations of value and exchange to people. Capitalism=personal property, Communism=social property.

Is it a private relation or a social relation to exchange and make goods? I think the former is infinitely illogical.

[synthesis]

So some of my ideals are akin to capitalism, is that so bad?

What ideals? Religion? Nationalism? The "free market"? A class system? Racism?

All those are intrinsic to capitalism; you should be more specific, Pepe.

[(*]

Free market. Private ownership of certain goods and services.

[(*]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 12:34 AM
Marx explained how capitalism misunderstands the relations of value and exchange to people. Capitalism=personal property, Communism=social property.

Is it a private relation or a social relation to exchange and make goods? I think the former is infinitely illogical.


In terms of production of goods. How does one socially produce a good, or socially perform a service?

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by [email protected] 30 2003, 01:48 AM
Ideals, just give it a rest
ure not making any progress here
all you are doing is making people angry
either accept that you are restricted or LEAVE
NO means NO
look it up in the dictionary, a REAL dictionary
listen up, bud...it&#39;s all gravy...i just don&#39;t appreciate all the insults being flung around based on presumptions....get to know someone before you attempt to defile him

[synthesis]

Originally posted by (*@Oct 30 2003, 05:40 AM
Free market. Private ownership of certain goods and services.
Um, that would make you a capitalist.

[(*]

Originally posted by DyerMaker+Oct 30 2003, 03:08 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DyerMaker @ Oct 30 2003, 03:08 AM)
(*@Oct 30 2003, 05:40 AM
Free market. Private ownership of certain goods and services.
Um, that would make you a capitalist. [/b]
Like I said before, their are aspects of different ideologies that I find appealing.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Pro-MyIdeals+Oct 29 2003, 11:51 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pro-MyIdeals @ Oct 29 2003, 11:51 PM)
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 29 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up [/b]
Well the fact you are a attention whore, b*tch alot about you don&#39;t get your desire, etc ... Make you as ignorant as them and that is why I categorise you with them. Since they don&#39;t know when it&#39;s time to shut up :P

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Desert Fox+Oct 30 2003, 09:01 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Desert Fox @ Oct 30 2003, 09:01 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 29 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up
Well the fact you are a attention whore, b*tch alot about you don&#39;t get your desire, etc ... Make you as ignorant as them and that is why I categorise you with them. Since they don&#39;t know when it&#39;s time to shut up :P [/b]
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[elijahcraig]

In terms of production of goods. How does one socially produce a good, or socially perform a service?

Production is a social relation. Each product has a social value, an objective value, which it gains through coming into the market of the society. Trade, exchange of goods, these things are not done privately.

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Pro-MyIdeals+Oct 31 2003, 01:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pro-MyIdeals @ Oct 31 2003, 01:27 AM)
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 30 2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 29 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up
Well the fact you are a attention whore, b*tch alot about you don&#39;t get your desire, etc ... Make you as ignorant as them and that is why I categorise you with them. Since they don&#39;t know when it&#39;s time to shut up :P
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: [/b]
Really mature how you handeld that. I request that a staff member closes this thread since he got his attention and nothing else will come out of this topic but spam. In my honest opinion it should have been closed down much earlier since it was only a cry for attention :P

[Pro-MyIdeals]

Originally posted by Desert Fox+Nov 1 2003, 09:24 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Desert Fox @ Nov 1 2003, 09:24 AM)
Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 30 2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 29 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up
Well the fact you are a attention whore, b*tch alot about you don&#39;t get your desire, etc ... Make you as ignorant as them and that is why I categorise you with them. Since they don&#39;t know when it&#39;s time to shut up :P
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Really mature how you handeld that. I request that a staff member closes this thread since he got his attention and nothing else will come out of this topic but spam. In my honest opinion it should have been closed down much earlier since it was only a cry for attention :P [/b]
it honestly looks as though you are the one who is looking for attention and is sore for some reason...i was posting an honest question because i got no replies from my sent e-mail...that is when you started jumping all over me...you really need to handle this like an adult rather than lash out

[Desert Fox]

Originally posted by Pro-MyIdeals+Nov 2 2003, 01:02 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pro-MyIdeals @ Nov 2 2003, 01:02 AM)
Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 1 2003, 09:24 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 31 2003, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 30 2003, 09:01 AM

Originally posted by [email protected] 29 2003, 11:51 PM

Originally posted by Desert [email protected] 29 2003, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Comrade [email protected] 29 2003, 03:31 AM

[email protected] 29 2003, 02:04 PM
....i don&#39;t know how hard science can be leftist...

You&#39;re lucky enough that this board has a forum for Opposing Ideologies. Hardly any other partisan message boards allow this.


Yeah, if you don&#39;t like it here go to *************** they will welcome your kind PMI. Try to post there a leftist idea, you will recieve a instant ban. So don&#39;t be a d*ck and be glad Malte doesn&#39;t ban your kind on sight. You should try to reconsider your ideology since it is wrong and maybe if you think hard enough you will see the flaws in your ideology like I did ...
that&#39;s avery arrogant and offensive statement...i have said before i am not a right winger, so what makes you think i&#39;d fit in the website you mentioned...get to know me forst before you jump to conclusions about me....you know nothing about my "kind"...grow up
Well the fact you are a attention whore, b*tch alot about you don&#39;t get your desire, etc ... Make you as ignorant as them and that is why I categorise you with them. Since they don&#39;t know when it&#39;s time to shut up :P
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Really mature how you handeld that. I request that a staff member closes this thread since he got his attention and nothing else will come out of this topic but spam. In my honest opinion it should have been closed down much earlier since it was only a cry for attention :P
it honestly looks as though you are the one who is looking for attention and is sore for some reason...i was posting an honest question because i got no replies from my sent e-mail...that is when you started jumping all over me...you really need to handle this like an adult rather than lash out [/b]
I will be honest, I like attention like every other human being. But if they don&#39;t reply your mails, they are ignoring you. Don&#39;t you find it strange that the persons who you mailed didn&#39;t even reply on this topic. Geez even I understand when I am being ignored :P