Teachers and class.

[Ballyfornia]

What class are teachers? I don't mean in the Marxist way of Proletariat and bourgeois. But in the sociology way of working/lower class to middle class to upper.

[Wubbaz]

Depends on the salary, of course. I'd say that the primary school teachers are somewhat middle-class, while a college/university professor is upper middle-class or upper-class. The higher form of education, the higher sociological class.

[jake williams]

What class are teachers? I don't mean in the Marxist way of Proletariat and bourgeois. But in the sociology way of working/lower class to middle class to upper.
As far as bullshit bourgeois "social class" goes everyone who isn't either an aristocrat (only Europeans count even then) or living in a cardboard box is "middle class". Why on earth do you ask?

[Invader Zim]

Depends on the salary, of course. I'd say that the primary school teachers are somewhat middle-class, while a college/university professor is upper middle-class or upper-class. The higher form of education, the higher sociological class.


What absolute, pure, unmittigated rubbish. You don't join academia for the money.

[Nox]

What absolute, pure, unmittigated rubbish. You don't join academia for the money.

So true.

I doubt being a teacher could be considered upper class regardless of how much money you make, seeing as if you work at a private school you're being exploited for your labour and therefore are proletariat, and if you work at a public school you are serving society, but not in a bad way like a police officer, anyway as far as I know public school teachers get paid shit wages anyway.

[RED DAVE]

Teachers are actually working class. They are one of the most highly unionized groups in most countries and actually have been known to go on strike.

RED DAVE

[Wubbaz]

What absolute, pure, unmittigated rubbish. You don't join academia for the money.

You must've misunderstood my post. I never implied that. :)

[Kornilios Sunshine]

They are intellectuals,they are in the middle class.

[Ballyfornia]

Rightio then, What is the average salary of a teacher in comparison to the average worker in the first world.

[Pretty Flaco]

Rightio then, What is the average salary of a teacher in comparison to the average worker in the first world.

that's all going to depend on where they work, what degree they have, and what they're teaching. also what country they're in.

in the US, a college professor with a doctorate degree and a middle school teacher with a bachelors don't make the same paycheck. If I'm not mistaken, most public school teachers make at or a little above the median US salary.


They are intellectuals,they are in the middle class.

Bullshit, they're workers

[Invader Zim]

You must've misunderstood my post. I never implied that. :)
No, you didn't imply it, you were entirely explicit:

"Depends on the salary, of course. I'd say that the primary school teachers are somewhat middle-class, while a college/university professor is upper middle-class or upper-class. The higher form of education, the higher sociological class. "

See what you did there? First state that sociological class "depends on the salary", and then stated, based on this measure, that college level teaching is "upper middle-class or upper-class"?

Why back peddle and deny what you wrote when we can just go back read the post?

[Misanthrope]

Depends on the salary, of course. I'd say that the primary school teachers are somewhat middle-class, while a college/university professor is upper middle-class or upper-class. The higher form of education, the higher sociological class.

Of course they are overruling capitalists because they tell students what to do!!

What's wrong man? Get too much homework today?

What's middle class mean anyway? How are you a communist but don't abide by Marx's class analysis?

LOLWUT

[Wubbaz]

No, you didn't imply it, you were entirely explicit:

"Depends on the salary, of course. I'd say that the primary school teachers are somewhat middle-class, while a college/university professor is upper middle-class or upper-class. The higher form of education, the higher sociological class. "

See what you did there? First state that sociological class "depends on the salary", and then stated, based on this measure, that college level teaching is "upper middle-class or upper-class"?

Why back peddle and deny what you wrote when we can just go back read the post?

Yeah well, at least that is the case in MY country. ::)

[Invader Zim]

Yeah well, at least that is the case in MY country. ::)


So now you are saying it is about the money again?

Do you even know?

[TheGodlessUtopian]

Depends on how you define class and working I guess.From an economic standpoint you could say that they fit into the lower-middle class,but you can also say that they are proletarian because they are obviously exploited a great deal (as well as hardly ever actually thanked by their pupils or their parents).