Well done, you got me restricted!

[Column No.4]

Now all you have to do is get the other member who admitted hed entertained joining the Legion, the member whos planning on joining the Australian militaries OCS and the members that are active duty military and your utopian forum where no one disagrees with each other will become a reality!

[Che a chara]

Bollox. I've seen several of your posts. You're reactionary as fuck dude. I first thought you were a troll or an ex-banned member over here to spam shite. Maybe you're just a little wet behind the ears though ...

[thefinalmarch]

Believe me, the conditions for my personal "utopian forum" are far from being met; you've not been banned and the stalinists are still frolicking freely in the sunshiney meadow that is revleft.

[Column No.4]

Bollox. I've seen several of your posts. You're reactionary as fuck dude. I first thought you were a troll or an ex-banned member over here to spam shite. Maybe you're just a little wet behind the ears though ...

Yeah, you got me, because thinking about enlisting makes you reactionary. Do me a favor and explain to me how seeing nothing wrong with spanking makes me reactionary or thinking those who eat from the table should contribute something to it as well?

[Thirsty Crow]

Now all you have to do is get the other member who admitted hed entertained joining the Legion, the member whos planning on joining the Australian militaries OCS and the members that are active duty military and your utopian forum where no one disagrees with each other will become a reality!
I don't think that you understand the purpose of OI which will be your online dwelling place.

[Column No.4]

I don't think that you understand the purpose of OI which will be your online dwelling place.

Thats it, ban me for responding to someone elses thread.

[StoneFrog]

Well with your aggressive tendencies and almost idolizing violent behavior, im not surprised about your restriction.

[PhoenixAsh]

Now all you have to do is get the other member who admitted hed entertained joining the Legion, the member whos planning on joining the Australian militaries OCS and the members that are active duty military and your utopian forum where no one disagrees with each other will become a reality!

You are restricted to give you a chance to learn and develop and, if you so wish to do, to show that the general opinion of you is no longer valid or was invalid in the first place.

You were not restricted for responding to someone elses thread. You weren't even restricted for your intent to join the military/LE. You were restricted for your overall behaviour and opinions.

As it stands now...you were the one who was defending by denial imperialism, who was glorifying the legion, who was itching for a fight/violence, who was advocating severe child abuse and for several other reasons all of which are considered reactionary in anarchist/communist/socialist terms...and that goes beyond simply planning to join the military. So take responsibiliy for your own actions and try to understand the difference between you and them...and that that really has no bearing on your own behaviour.

Perhaps if you try to learn instead of constantly being overly defensive and taking everything as a personal attack...

[Le Libérer]

Now all you have to do is get the other member who admitted hed entertained joining the Legion, the member whos planning on joining the Australian militaries OCS and the members that are active duty military and your utopian forum where no one disagrees with each other will become a reality!
You forgot the part where you advocate (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2228340&postcount=64) beating children.

[Le Libérer]

Thats it, ban me for responding to someone elses thread.
If only passive-aggressive rants were bannable offensives.....

[ZeroNowhere]

Well done, you are getting closer to getting yourself banned.

[The Dark Side of the Moon]

Believe me, the conditions for my personal "utopian forum" are far from being met; you've not been banned and the stalinists are still frolicking freely in the sunshiney meadow that is revleft.
and whats wrong with us stalinists?

[Column No.4]

Well with your aggressive tendencies and almost idolizing violent behavior, im not surprised about your restriction.

You mean the foul language and personal attacks, sorry i havent utilized any of that.

[Commissar Rykov]

and whats wrong with us stalinists?
Too technicolor.

[Column No.4]

You are restricted to give you a chance to learn and develop and, if you so wish to do, to show that the general opinion of you is no longer valid or was invalid in the first place.

You were not restricted for responding to someone elses thread. You weren't even restricted for your intent to join the military/LE. You were restricted for your overall behaviour and opinions.

As it stands now...you were the one who was defending by denial imperialism, who was glorifying the legion, who was itching for a fight/violence, who was advocating severe child abuse and for several other reasons all of which are considered reactionary in anarchist/communist/socialist terms...and that goes beyond simply planning to join the military. So take responsibiliy for your own actions and try to understand the difference between you and them...and that that really has no bearing on your own behaviour.

Perhaps if you try to learn instead of constantly being overly defensive and taking everything as a personal attack...

Wow, restricted for your opinions, if that doesnt sound a bit dictatorial i dont know what does.

[thefinalmarch]

and whats wrong with us stalinists?
Nothing, nothing at all. ;)

[Column No.4]

You forgot the part where you advocate (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2228340&postcount=64) beating children.

Point that out to me where i said "beat your children"?

[Column No.4]

Well done, you are getting closer to getting yourself banned.

"The nail that sticks out"

[Commissar Rykov]

"The nail that sticks out"
Being a reactionary dipshit isn't being a nail that sticks out. I do enjoy your martyr complex though it is hilarious.

[ColonelCossack]

Believe me, the conditions for my personal "utopian forum" are far from being met; you've not been banned and the stalinists are still frolicking freely in the sunshiney meadow that is revleft.

Oi, mate.

By "stalinists" I assume you mean M-Ls.

M-Ls want the forcible downthrow of capitalism (revolution), and our ultimate aim is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are democratically controlled (leftist... not half).

Therefore, we are revolutionary leftists... so we belong on revleft! :blink:

Anyway, it's not like we're entirely uncritical of Stalin...

lol I'm not trying to start a tendency war and I bet you've heard it all before .:rolleyes:

[thefinalmarch]

M-Ls want the forcible downthrow of capitalism (revolution), and our ultimate aim is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are democratically controlled (leftist... not half).
Humor, mate, humor :tt2:
I understand this is the stated position of most ML's.

[Column No.4]

Being a reactionary dipshit isn't being a nail that sticks out. I do enjoy your martyr complex though it is hilarious.

I enjoy your insults and personal attacks.

[#FF0000]

cryin hard or hardly crying

cryin hard

[ZeroNowhere]

Walk on water, and we might take you seriously.

[StoneFrog]

Walk on water, and we might take you seriously.

Or burn you as a witch.

[Column No.4]

cryin hard or hardly crying

cryin hard

Pointing out the fact that youve reinforced the stereotype that leftists are for the equality of only those that share their exact opinions on everything. And all this time ive been arguing that theres no such thing as a Communist dictatorship.

[Column No.4]

Or burn you as a witch.

I entertained different career paths, youll burn me anyways.

[The Douche]

Come on then, explain why serving in an imperialist army is compatible with communism.

While you're at it, explain what's so great about combat.

[Nox]

Restriction really isn't that big of a deal, and you can't really complain considering that you wanted to join an imperialist army and advocated beating children.

Just step back for a minute and think about whether joining the French Legion or whatever it's called is really a good idea, and whether beating children really solves problems in the long term or just makes them afraid of you in the short term.

[Column No.4]

Come on then, explain why serving in an imperialist army is compatible with communism.

While you're at it, explain what's so great about combat.

I never said it was compatible, i said it was an option id entertained. Combat, ive enjoyed it, whether it be video game, sport or armed, that doesnt make me a reactionary simply because i enjoy competition of any kind.

[#FF0000]

Pointing out the fact that youve reinforced the stereotype that leftists are for the equality of only those that share their exact opinions on everything. And all this time ive been arguing that theres no such thing as a Communist dictatorship.

except that this forum is loaded w/ people arguing and you're still allowed here - you're just restricted.

tho i don't think anyone should be restricted i still have to point out how hard you are crying here

[The Douche]

Listen kid, you've never been in combat.

I have.


If you openly want to do things which are incompatible with communism, then you are not a communist, and this is a message board for communists, we restrict people who are not communists, because we want discussions to be productive. We do, however, give you a space (here) to voice your opinions, try and teach us something, and an opportunity to learn from us.

But you will also loose that privilege if you act like a brat and throw a fit in every thread.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Ok I now have a question
Everyone is say that when you are willing to see the error of your previous ways you can get a restriction lifted
But, like, how exactly do you do that?
Do you like, message a mod and say "I'm cool now"?

[Column No.4]

Restriction really isn't that big of a deal, and you can't really complain considering that you wanted to join an imperialist army and advocated beating children.

Just step back for a minute and think about whether joining the French Legion or whatever it's called is really a good idea, and whether beating children really solves problems in the long term or just makes them afraid of you in the short term.

I entertained the thought, thats not the same as wanting to, its that it crossed my mind. This bollocks about beating children, it amazes me how one person can twist your words and it becomes the truth, this is an excellent example of telephone. You know whats not a good idea, living under a bridge, eating roadkill, bathing in an aquaduct. Your second reference to this child beating crap im not going to respond to since i already answered it in this first portion of this post.

[Che a chara]

And all this time ive been arguing that theres no such thing as a Communist dictatorship.

In a sense there is. The dictatorship of the proletariat.

[Column No.4]

except that this forum is loaded w/ people arguing and you're still allowed here - you're just restricted.

tho i don't think anyone should be restricted i still have to point out how hard you are crying here

Its a matter of how this left wing site is in fact no different from the right wing ones.

[#FF0000]

Ok I now have a question
Everyone is say that when you are willing to see the error of your previous ways you can get a restriction lifted
But, like, how exactly do you do that?
Do you like, message a mod and say "I'm cool now"?

yeah this is one of the big reasons why i don't like restriction. and even when people do change their minds i remember as a mod the discussion was like "HOW CAN WE BE SURE!?????" which is dumb

[Column No.4]

Listen kid, you've never been in combat.

I have.


If you openly want to do things which are incompatible with communism, then you are not a communist, and this is a message board for communists, we restrict people who are not communists, because we want discussions to be productive. We do, however, give you a space (here) to voice your opinions, try and teach us something, and an opportunity to learn from us.

But you will also loose that privilege if you act like a brat and throw a fit in every thread.

Finally, someone that knows me personally, do tell me more about myself!

[#FF0000]

Its a matter of how this left wing site is in fact no different from the right wing ones.

nor is it really different from any other political forum dedicated to one particular ideology. i dont see your point

[The Douche]

Finally, someone that knows me personally, do tell me more about myself!

I know you haven't been to war because you just compared it to a video game, nerd.

[Column No.4]

nor is it really different from any other political forum dedicated to one particular ideology. i dont see your point

The left has always touted itself as the fair and balanced side of the political spectrum, open to others opinions, thoughts and cultures?

[Column No.4]

I know you haven't been to war because you just compared it to a video game, nerd.

Wow, you really are a one dimensional thinker. Ive never compared video game combat to actual combat.

[o well this is ok I guess]

yeah this is one of the big reasons why i don't like restriction. and even when people do change their minds i remember as a mod the discussion was like "HOW CAN WE BE SURE!?????" which is dumb That's dumb.
That's what we all ought to be mad about, instead of this guy.

[Tjis]

Pointing out the fact that youve reinforced the stereotype that leftists are for the equality of only those that share their exact opinions on everything. And all this time ive been arguing that theres no such thing as a Communist dictatorship.

Revleft is a message board, it's not a communist society.

[#FF0000]

That's dumb.
That's what we all ought to be mad about, instead of this guy.

I agree. I mean C-No4 here is a big ol' dummy and there's no getting around that but I think it's more constructive that we roll big dummies around in the rock polisher of harsh criticism and personal attacks on the main board to make him not a dummy, or, at least, less of a dummy.


The left has always touted itself as the fair and balanced side of the political spectrum, open to others opinions, thoughts and cultures?

I don't think those are characteristic to any specific part of the political spectrum. I mean communists have always been big on "don't be racist or sexist" but yeah.

[Commissar Rykov]

I agree. I mean C-No4 here is a big ol' dummy and there's no getting around that but I think it's more constructive that we roll big dummies around in the rock polisher of harsh criticism and personal attacks on the main board to make him not a dummy, or, at least, less of a dummy.
Does anyone have that much time to polish this rock?:D

[#FF0000]

Does anyone have that much time to polish this rock?:D

honestly i dont think column no 4 is that bad. he just hit all the wrong buttons (corporal punishment, military service). and i mean his logic for the former is so lacking that if you punch him in the face with reason enough he'd probs come around, or something.

[Column No.4]

Revleft is a message board, it's not a communist society.

Aaah so youre all Socialists, Communists and Anarchists but you moderate your forum like fascists?

[The Douche]

Wow, you really are a one dimensional thinker. Ive never compared video game combat to actual combat.

You said:


Combat, ive enjoyed it, whether it be video game, sport or armed

That means you think a video game is "combat".

And what I assume is sparring (sport and armed?) you also think is "combat".


The kind of combat you see in the military is far more horrifying than the worst thing that can happen to you and your juggalo friends in your backyard wrestling match. And no, you don't know anything about it.

[o well this is ok I guess]

The left has always touted itself as the fair and balanced side of the political spectrum, open to others opinions, thoughts and cultures? Of course we are open to other opinions and thoughts
That is why you reactionaries get your own little board

[The Douche]

Aaah so youre all Socialists, Communists and Anarchists but you moderate your forum like fascists?

Yeah, if you don't like it don't log in.:rolleyes:

[Le Libérer]

Why does this thread make me smile? :D

[Commissar Rykov]

Why does this thread make me smile? :D
It is pretty lulzy.

[Column No.4]

I agree. I mean C-No4 here is a big ol' dummy and there's no getting around that but I think it's more constructive that we roll big dummies around in the rock polisher of harsh criticism and personal attacks on the main board to make him not a dummy, or, at least, less of a dummy.



I don't think those are characteristic to any specific part of the political spectrum. I mean communists have always been big on "don't be racist or sexist" but yeah.

They shouldnt be characteristics of any particular political spectrum but due to the combination of the right attracting the inherently racist, sexist, etc. and the left typically attracting minorities, women, etc. the left has become the spectrum of fairness, equality, ect.

[Kamos]

Oi, mate.

By "stalinists" I assume you mean M-Ls.

M-Ls want the forcible downthrow of capitalism (revolution), and our ultimate aim is a classless, stateless society where the means of production are democratically controlled (leftist... not half).

Therefore, we are revolutionary leftists... so we belong on revleft! :blink:

Anyway, it's not like we're entirely uncritical of Stalin...

lol I'm not trying to start a tendency war and I bet you've heard it all before .:rolleyes:

Every time you respond to a tendency bait a capitalist kills a kitten. So please think of the kittens!

[Column No.4]

You said:



That means you think a video game is "combat".

And what I assume is sparring (sport and armed?) you also think is "combat".


The kind of combat you see in the military is far more horrifying than the worst thing that can happen to you and your juggalo friends in your backyard wrestling match. And no, you don't know anything about it.

Video game combat is a form of combat as your partaking in a past time that involves the elimination of your opponent, it is on par with MMA or armed combat, no, but i didnt say it was. MMA is in fact combat, its called a combat sport. Now armed combat, i know what it is and dont take my words out of context, twist them, and turn try to turn them into something you can use in your argument.

[The Douche]

I'm all for restricting people who just disagree and are willing to have conversations.


But I thought we banned trolls?

[ColonelCossack]

Humor, mate, humor :tt2:
I understand this is the stated position of most ML's.

I Know

I haz trollolol'd you XD

only jokin'

[Die Rote Fahne]

Aaah so youre all Socialists, Communists and Anarchists but you moderate your forum like fascists?
Godwin's law, inevitable.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Aaah so youre all Socialists, Communists and Anarchists but you moderate your forum like fascists?
Exactly, if you're a revolutionary socialist, communist, or anarchist you belong on the forum. But if you're not we send you to the camps(this section of the forum) and if you're a fascist we send you straight to the gas chambers.

I'm surprised you didn't get restricted when you started saying Americans deserved anything that happened to them because Bush got elected twice, that's not internationalism, and then you say you considered joining an imperialist military!

[crazyirish93]

Just stop taking him seriously just search his first quote and u will see why.....

[Column No.4]

I'm all for restricting people who just disagree and are willing to have conversations.


But I thought we banned trolls?

Like ive said several times before, "the nail that sticks out".

[Column No.4]

Exactly, if you're a revolutionary socialist, communist, or anarchist you belong on the forum. But if you're not we send you to the camps(this section of the forum) and if you're a fascist we send you straight to the gas chambers.

I'm surprised you didn't get restricted when you started saying Americans deserved anything that happened to them because Bush got elected twice, that's not internationalism, and then you say you considered joining an imperialist military!

So you are in fact validating the oxymoron "Communist dictatorship". My god, for the millionth time stop lying, i never said Americans deserved anything, i said i didnt feel sorry for them. As far as this enlistment is concerned i entertained the idea, for christs sake ive entertained lots of ideas, thought doesnt make you a fascist you morons.

[No_Leaders]

Nobody hammered you down, you did that all on your own bud. I don't see how hard it is for you to grasp in your tiny pea-brain what's wrong with the views you zealously defend. I think a good lot of us responded to your failed explanations of justifying it. So yes i do think this is a good restriction. This is a forum for REVOLUTIONARY leftists. Think about it, take a deep breath and let it sink in. Maybe you will have something important to say after doing so rather than whining. :thumbup1:

[Column No.4]

Nobody hammered you down, you did that all on your own bud. I don't see how hard it is for you to grasp in your tiny pea-brain what's wrong with the views you zealously defend. I think a good lot of us responded to your failed explanations of justifying it. So yes i do think this is a good restriction. This is a forum for REVOLUTIONARY leftists. Think about it, take a deep breath and let it sink in. Maybe you will have something important to say after doing so rather than whining. :thumbup1:

Ok fascist, silence anyone that thinks even slightly differently than you do.

[Rooster]

Your lack of any kind of leftish (never mind Marxist) thought and your almost biblical like "spare the rod, spoil the child" got you restricted. Quit complaining.

[Column No.4]

Your lack of any kind of leftish (never mind Marxist) thought and your almost biblical like "spare the rod, spoil the child" got you restricted. Quit complaining.

Sure, i lack leftist thought because i thought about something, see no problem with spanking and dont think half of society should work and the other half laze around simply because they wish not to work.

[eric922]

You know Revleft is actually more tolerant of opposing views than some political forums I've seen. The conservative forum Free Republic is very strict,even when dealing with moderate Republicans and if you say the wrong thing to Jim Rob(site owner) you'll get banned in a heartbeat. Keep in mind this is all hearsay as I've never had the desire to troll them long enough to find out.

However, I do post on Democratic Underground and while they do let socialists talk about their views and theories fairly openly, if you advocate voting third party they will close the thread and possibly ban you. Admitted Republicans are outright banned, there is no OI.

I don't know what Scumfront does to members who break the rules, ban them I'm sure and likely sound insults and deaththreats their way.

[Die Rote Fahne]

Sure, i lack leftist thought because i thought about something, see no problem with spanking and dont think half of society should work and the other half laze around simply because they wish not to work.

The issues with spanking are well known and easily accessible.

Where, in your warped view, do half of the people want to laze around? Even 10% want to laze around?

[Column No.4]

The issues with spanking are well known and easily accessible.

Where, in your warped view, do half of the people want to laze around? Even 10% want to laze around?

Yes, both for and against spanking. The reference to people lazing around came from an earlier debate about whether people should be able to eat from a table that they do not contribute to. I think people should have to contribute if they are going to partake, others think people should not have to contribute if they are going to partake. I subcribe to "he who doesnt work, doesnt eat" and others dont.

[RED DAVE]

"The nail that sticks out"Is flattened by the union carpenter. :D

Actually, you're just an angry punk without an idea in your head.

RED DAVE

[Column No.4]

Is flattened by the union carpenter. :D

Actually, you're just an angry punk without an idea in your head.

RED DAVE

And thats proven by my failure to get angry even once and my slight difference in opinion when it comes to certain subjects.

[Dzerzhinsky's Ghost]

I tried mate, I tried.

[Column No.4]

I tried mate, I tried.

I just dont understand how you can restrict one person for a difference in opinion and not another for an equal difference in opinion.

[Hit The North]

I just dont understand how you can restrict one person for a difference in opinion and not another for an equal difference in opinion.

It would help if any of your opinions were communist. They just aren't, as far as I can see.

Maybe you could use this thread in order to demonstrate your credentials and why we should take you seriously as "one of us".

[A Revolutionary Tool]

So you are in fact validating the oxymoron "Communist dictatorship".It's an internet forum, get the fuck over it.


My god, for the millionth time stop lying,This is the first time you're telling me to stop lying, not the millionth. Just saying.
i never said Americans deserved anything, i said i didnt feel sorry for them.Okay fine you said you don't care if Americans die, fuck you, that's why you're not an internationalist, it's why you can't be a communist. It sounded like a little more than just not caring, it sounded more like you were clapping watching it happen. And why? Because Bush got elected? Yeah, fuck you.


As far as this enlistment is concerned i entertained the idea, for christs sake ive entertained lots of ideas, thought doesnt make you a fascist you morons.It doesn't but your positions make you a reactionary motherfucker that doesn't belong outside of OI.

[Le Libérer]

Point that out to me where i said "beat your children"?


im more and more for physical punishment the more and more i see how badly behaved the current generation is.


Whats the one thing lacking from the current generation that wasnt lacking from mine, the spanking, whipping, etc


I dont believe beating your child works but spanking, whipping, etc. has done alright.

Reactionary from that thread?

Capitalism definately plays a part in the way people act in regards to things like theft of food, squatting and some instances of drug dealing, but definately not when it comes to ones individual decision.

I suggest you find your corner in the OI room and set up house.

[Column No.4]

It would help if any of your opinions were communist. They just aren't, as far as I can see.

Maybe you could use this thread in order to demonstrate your credentials and why we should take you seriously as "one of us".

No ones asked me anything about my stances on Communism, im actually far enough left to get hassled on a regular basis, or it could be because im a familiar face at rallies, i dont know. Im leftist, i just dont share identical views as every other leftist.

[Commissar Rykov]

No ones asked me anything about my stances on Communism, im actually far enough left to get hassled on a regular basis, or it could be because im a familiar face at rallies, i dont know. Im leftist, i just dont share identical views as every other leftist.
Far enough left in the United States means you could be Center-Right.:lol:

[El Louton]

Woah Woah Woah Woah! This isn't a strictly communist forum! It's RevLEFT! 'Welcome to revleft.com, one of the world's largest leftist forum communities where over 10000 leftists from around the world come to discuss..' I think we should all take ten deep breaths and calm down!

[Column No.4]

It's an internet forum, get the fuck over it.

This is the first time you're telling me to stop lying, not the millionth. Just saying. Okay fine you said you don't care if Americans die, fuck you, that's why you're not an internationalist, it's why you can't be a communist. It sounded like a little more than just not caring, it sounded more like you were clapping watching it happen. And why? Because Bush got elected? Yeah, fuck you.

It doesn't but your positions make you a reactionary motherfucker that doesn't belong outside of OI.

A "Communist" dictatorship is what your striving for i imagine? Not caring is a big difference from promoting.

[Commissar Rykov]

Woah Woah Woah Woah! This isn't a strictly communist forum! It's RevLEFT! 'Welcome to revleft.com, one of the world's largest leftist forum communities where over 10000 leftists from around the world come to discuss..' I think we should all take ten deep breaths and calm down!
No I think we should all panic then loot then burn down the thread. Not even in that order either.

[Column No.4]

Reactionary from that thread?


I suggest you find your corner in the OI room and set up house.

Dear god, not spanking! I dont care who has a go at me, Capitalism doesnt drive people to break other peoples things for entertainment.

[Column No.4]

Far enough left in the United States means you could be Center-Right.:lol:

Thats true, however im definately not right or centre right.

[Commissar Rykov]

Dear god, not spanking! I dont care who has a go at me, Capitalism doesnt drive people to break other peoples things for entertainment.
Some Leftist. God you can't even get the right views to troll here. Tsk tsk. Better luck next time.

[Commissar Rykov]

Thats true, however im definately not right or centre right.
You are definitely not Left either probably some Bourgie Liberal Whiner more like it. Same shit, slightly different arrangement on the tune.

[Column No.4]

Some Leftist. God you can't even get the right views to troll here. Tsk tsk. Better luck next time.

So you think Capitalism drives people to destructive entertainment?

[El Louton]

I have to agree with him there, not with capitalism, but smashing the state isn't demolishing peoples private property.

[Column No.4]

You are definitely not Left either probably some Bourgie Liberal Whiner more like it. Same shit, slightly different arrangement on the tune.

Even if that were true it would be a hell of a lot better than a fascist in Socialist, Communist or Anarchist garb.

[El Louton]

Really? So you'd support a racist political theory. But yet your profile picture shows Che Guevara, a socialist? And your quotes!?
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."- Mahatma Gandi.

[Commissar Rykov]

So you think Capitalism drives people to destructive entertainment?
Yes it does due to its concentration of wealth in the hands of the few thus creating desperate situations for those in areas where they are literally ghettoized by the Bourgeoisie. It is a means of control that is why crimes that the Working Class commit are punished harder than anything the Bourgeoisie do. This is why in the criminal justice system you get the prison sentence of 1 gram of crack is equal to the amount of 35 grams of powdered cocaine. Why is that? The Bourgeoisie can afford the powdered cocaine whereas the Proletariat can not thus the harsher punishment of Crack. Everything in our society is based on the power dynamics that Capitalism has provided for the Bourgeoisie.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

A "Communist" dictatorship is what your striving for i imagine? Not caring is a big difference from promoting.
No, I just make a distinction with how things will run in the real world and how they do on an internet forum. Like I said what you were saying was more along the lines of you saying America got what it deserved because it elected Bush. For some reason you're under the illusion that voting for Democrats matters.

[Column No.4]

Really? So you'd support a racist political theory. But yet your profile picture shows Che Guevara, a socialist? And your quotes!?
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."- Mahatma Gandi.

No, i wouldnt, and what of my quotes?

[Column No.4]

No, I just make a distinction with how things will run in the real world and how they do on an internet forum. Like I said what you were saying was more along the lines of you saying America got what it deserved because it elected Bush. For some reason you're under the illusion that voting for Democrats matters.

I couldnt care less about what happens to the US, whether it happened or not makes no difference to me. As far as voting Democrat, i do, but i dont expect anything major from them.

[El Louton]

Just rather interesting people to quote!

[El Louton]

For someone who would prefer to be a fascist.

[Column No.4]

Just rather interesting people to quote!

My stance on violence is best summed up by the verse "violence in all hands, embrace it if need be". Im not pro nonviolence, it relies on the chance that theres someone in power with a conscience.

[Column No.4]

For someone who would prefer to be a fascist.

Where did i say id rather be a fascist?

[El Louton]

Ah. Crap.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I couldnt care less about what happens to the US, whether it happened or not makes no difference to me. As far as voting Democrat, i do, but i dont expect anything major from them.
You're a fucking moron, what happens in the U.S. affects the entire world. 3,000 civilians dead has meant millions of refugees in the Middle East, hundreds of thousands if not a million dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, the destruction of those countries infrastructure, the rise in authoritarian tendencies in American politics and the decline of the left(Which affects you), billions spent on destruction, more aid and training to authoritarian right-wing regimes who use violence against their people, etc. But who cares, it doesn't make a difference to me personally? GTFO!

[Die Rote Fahne]

Yes, both for and against spanking. The reference to people lazing around came from an earlier debate about whether people should be able to eat from a table that they do not contribute to. I think people should have to contribute if they are going to partake, others think people should not have to contribute if they are going to partake. I subcribe to "he who doesnt work, doesnt eat" and others dont.
Yeah, arguments in support of spanking are usually not scientifically backed up.

They certainly should be able to eat. This won't be feasible in a DOTP setting, however, in a communist society should someone not want to work, they should be able to make that choice. However, you have to look at the likelihood of that as well.

Work hours would be drastically reduced, work conditions drastically improved, and much broader access to education and training. Therefore, people can do exactly what they want, for the most part.

[Revolution starts with U]

The only thing worse than the restriction system is when someone whines about it like a petulant child when they get restricted :rolleyes:
Get over it dude.

[S.Artesian]

Please don't feed the troll. It just means more shit will be piling up.

[Le Libérer]

Well C#4 look at it this way. You got what you set out for, a whole lot of attention and two threads in your honor. Besides admin poll threads, Ive never had the pleasure! Its not a bad day after all.

Signed:
The Polly Anna Admin

[RED DAVE]

Dear god, not spanking! I dont care who has a go at me, Capitalism doesnt drive people to break other peoples things for entertainment.Actually, it does. Here's some late night entertainment broadcast live a few years ago, from a reality TV show called "Shock and Awe." Or maybe it was a sit-com.

http://teachdylan.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/shock_and_awe_2.jpg

RED DAVE

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

I have to agree with him there, not with capitalism, but smashing the state isn't demolishing peoples private property.

Yes, yes it is.

Who owns the national economy? Who owns the politicians who control the national economy?

Private property is Capitalism. Don't cry over the demolition of either!

Also, this has been a rather enjoyable thread. :)

[Column No.4]

You're a fucking moron, what happens in the U.S. affects the entire world. 3,000 civilians dead has meant millions of refugees in the Middle East, hundreds of thousands if not a million dead civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan, the destruction of those countries infrastructure, the rise in authoritarian tendencies in American politics and the decline of the left(Which affects you), billions spent on destruction, more aid and training to authoritarian right-wing regimes who use violence against their people, etc. But who cares, it doesn't make a difference to me personally? GTFO!

No, 3,000 deaths here has not meant millions of refugees in the Middle East, a man with lack of respect and understanding of of the outside world and its cultures brought that.

[Column No.4]

Yeah, arguments in support of spanking are usually not scientifically backed up.

They certainly should be able to eat. This won't be feasible in a DOTP setting, however, in a communist society should someone not want to work, they should be able to make that choice. However, you have to look at the likelihood of that as well.

Work hours would be drastically reduced, work conditions drastically improved, and much broader access to education and training. Therefore, people can do exactly what they want, for the most part.

And thats what im talking about, aiming not for allowing those to choose to work to do so and those who choose not to work not having to but for everyone only having to work one or two days a week.

[Column No.4]

The only thing worse than the restriction system is when someone whines about it like a petulant child when they get restricted :rolleyes:
Get over it dude.

You and Rykov should get to together and start a "useless posters" club.

[Column No.4]

Actually, it does. Here's some late night entertainment broadcast live a few years ago, from a reality TV show called "Shock and Awe." Or maybe it was a sit-com.

http://teachdylan.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/shock_and_awe_2.jpg

RED DAVE

'Tele is not reality.

[Column No.4]

Yes, yes it is.

Who owns the national economy? Who owns the politicians who control the national economy?

Private property is Capitalism. Don't cry over the demolition of either!

Also, this has been a rather enjoyable thread. :)

So i can smash your car and break every window in your house and i could use Capitalism as my motive?

[mykittyhasaboner]

'Tele is not reality.

wow............

[Column No.4]

wow............

If that is in fact a still from the bombing of Baghdad, as i originall thought it was but the picture is terrible, than that bombing was not simply about destroying things for entertainment.

[Rusty Shackleford]

If that is in fact a still from the bombing of Baghdad, as i originall thought it was but the picture is terrible, than that bombing was not simply about destroying things for entertainment.
Yeah, thats why bombing started at Prime time on a week night and aired live on all news channels. i was 12-13 at the time and what did my family do? we ate popcorn and watched it. and when that stupid made for tv movie about the captured US soldier aired a few weeks/months after the war started, we watched that too. thats how fucked up shit was back then.

[Column No.4]

Yeah, thats why bombing started at Prime time on a week night and aired live on all news channels. i was 12-13 at the time and what did my family do? we ate popcorn and watched it. and when that stupid made for tv movie about the captured US soldier aired a few weeks/months after the war started, we watched that too. thats how fucked up shit was back then.

It was shown on the news wasnt it? I dont remember having my regularly scheduled programming interrupted for it. Either way i dont remember watchin very much of it, a bit here and there to keep up with what was going on.

[Rusty Shackleford]

It was shown on the news wasnt it? I dont remember having my regularly scheduled programming interrupted for it. Either way i dont remember watchin very much of it, a bit here and there to keep up with what was going on.
no, if i remember correctly, shit was interrupted.

then after that came the flurry of embedded journalists showing cool shots of Tanks and trucks and Humvees driving across the desert, people shooting at no enemy, and then fallujah. cool shots of cruise missiles taking off at night. cool shots of B2s taking off. Cool shots. it was glorification. it almost looked like no one was dying. just a lot of big explosions and shooting.

[Column No.4]

no, if i remember correctly, shit was interrupted.

then after that came the flurry of embedded journalists showing cool shots of Tanks and trucks and Humvees driving across the desert, people shooting at no enemy, and then fallujah. cool shots of cruise missiles taking off at night. cool shots of B2s taking off. Cool shots. it was glorification. it almost looked like no one was dying. just a lot of big explosions and shooting.

Well i cant say i dont like big explosions. To this day i point out the incompetence of leadership in the bombing of water treatment facilities, power grids, etc.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Well i cant say i dont like big explosions. To this day i point out the incompetence of leadership in the bombing of water treatment facilities, power grids, etc.

But the invasion itself wasnt a problem?


the whole point of the bombings of the 90s was to take out "strategic" infrastructure. Railroads, Railyards, Canals, Dams, Power Plants, Factories, Bridges and so on werent bombed in WWII for no reason. They did the same thing in Iraq in '03 and in Libya in the past 6 months.

[Commissar Rykov]

no, if i remember correctly, shit was interrupted.

then after that came the flurry of embedded journalists showing cool shots of Tanks and trucks and Humvees driving across the desert, people shooting at no enemy, and then fallujah. cool shots of cruise missiles taking off at night. cool shots of B2s taking off. Cool shots. it was glorification. it almost looked like no one was dying. just a lot of big explosions and shooting.
There is a reason Media coverage tapered off after they finally made contact with the enemy. Guess it isn't glamorous to show average Iraqis getting sawed apart by gunfire or smashed to pieces by tank and artillery fire. Fallujah was definitely the final death knell for media coverage as it was completely unflattering what with Marines getting caught throwing White Phosphorous into civilian buildings to drive people out.

[No_Leaders]

Well i cant say i dont like big explosions. To this day i point out the incompetence of leadership in the bombing of water treatment facilities, power grids, etc.

So you're okay with all the other targets that were bombed?

[Column No.4]

So you're okay with all the other targets that were bombed?

No but i cant get bent out of shape over every single bombing, warmongers are going to wage war, i cant change that. I would have preferred no bombing but if they are going to bomb at least dont target civilian infrastructure.

[Rusty Shackleford]

No but i cant get bent out of shape over every single bombing, warmongers are going to wage war, i cant change that. I would have preferred no bombing but if they are going to bomb at least dont target civilian infrastructure.
hence, you were restricted.

[Column No.4]

hence, you were restricted.

For not getting bent out of shape over every little case of violence, capitalism or imperialism?

[Rusty Shackleford]

For not getting bent out of shape over every little case of violence, capitalism or imperialism?
for being ok with imperialists bombing people because 'you cant get bent out of shape over every 'little' instance of imperialism.'(Paraphrasing)

its called half-assing it. that, or just apologizing for it because "it is what it is"

posters on here were banned for defending, or apologizing for, rapes committed by some soldiers in the red army in WWII because war "is what it is." in the worst instance "nazi women deserve it." that was unacceptable.

[Property Is Robbery]

I wouldnt hesitate to swat my kid, im more and more for physical punishment the more and more i see how badly behaved the current generation is
Hitting kids is reactionary. I don't see why you haven't been banned. :glare:

Edit: I'm obviously not kidding troll

[Column No.4]

for being ok with imperialists bombing people because 'you cant get bent out of shape over every 'little' instance of imperialism.'(Paraphrasing)

its called half-assing it. that, or just apologizing for it because "it is what it is"

posters on here were banned for defending, or apologizing for, rapes committed by some soldiers in the red army in WWII because war "is what it is." in the worst instance "nazi women deserve it." that was unacceptable.

I never said i was ok with it, i said i cant get bent out of shape over ever instance of it, twisting words again.

[W1N5T0N]

"not entirely uncritical"...does that mean just about 99 percent of the time?

Stalin was batshit crazy lunatic, no better than Hitler or Pol Pot.

Bring your tendency war.

[Column No.4]

Hitting kids is reactionary. I don't see why you haven't been banned. :glare:

I hope to god youre being sarcastic.

[Sperm-Doll Setsuna]

I hope to god youre being sarcastic.

I pray to Azathoth everything you've ever said is a bad attempt at trolling or a failed joke that has passed the best-before date.

[Property Is Robbery]

I hope to god youre being sarcastic.
Obvious troll
http://about-face.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/good-luck-troll-dolls1.jpg

[W1N5T0N]

on a totally unrelated note...who...is azathoth?

[Property Is Robbery]

on a totally unrelated note...who...is azathoth?
H.P. Lovecraft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft) god

[Property Is Robbery]

Stalin was batshit crazy lunatic, no better than Hitler or Pol Pot.

You should watch less History Channel.:laugh:

Edit: And trust me, I am nowhere near a Stalin apologist.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I never said i was ok with it, i said i cant get bent out of shape over ever instance of it, twisting words again.
complacency is acceptance.

[W1N5T0N]

what exactly do you mean?
I think its pretty obvious stalin was a ruthless monster.
He ordered mass killings, torture, suppression of any dissent or free though...
lets not forget katun/katyn shall we?

[Column No.4]

complacency is acceptance.

How am i complacent simply because i think its against my own interest to be spitting piss mad twenty four hours a day, seven days a week?

[Property Is Robbery]

what exactly do you mean?
I think its pretty obvious stalin was a ruthless monster.
He ordered mass killings, torture, suppression of any dissent or free though...
lets not forget katun/katyn shall we?
I don't like Stalin and I think he was a totalitarian leader but i don't think he was a monster, The mass killing statistics are highly over exaggerated by capitalist historians

[Le Rouge]

Well done, you got me restricted!

Thank you! :)

[Revolution starts with U]

You and Rykov should get to together and start a "useless posters" club.

Why, are you the president?

I really can't believe you're trying to deny they showed the "shock and awe" bombing of baghdad non primetime television. They did, I watched it (cuz I didnt have cable at the time).

[DarkPast]

posters on here were banned for defending, or apologizing for, rapes committed by some soldiers in the red army in WWII because war "is what it is." in the worst instance "nazi women deserve it." that was unacceptable.

Ironically they were just repeating ol' Dzugashvili's stance there:

Can't he understand it if a soldier who has crossed thousands of kilometers through blood and fire and death has fun with a woman or takes some trifle?
-Stalin

[RED DAVE]

Well i cant say i dont like big explosions.http://toryardvaark.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/state_department_images_wtc_9-11_the_twin_towers_right.jpg


Yeah, this must really have been one of your fun days.

RED DAVE

[Rusty Shackleford]

How am i complacent simply because i think its against my own interest to be spitting piss mad twenty four hours a day, seven days a week?
a communist doesnt place self interest over the interests of working class and oppressed people.

[Ele'ill]

I'm so gonna close this thread

[Commissar Rykov]

I'm so gonna close this thread
Don't kill the LULZ! They demand sanctuary!

[Ele'ill]

Mod duties come before lulz.

Thread closed.


Column 4, the threads you want are inmates introductions (http://www.revleft.com/vb/inmates-introductions-ii-t152767/index4.html) and Unfair Restrictions (http://www.revleft.com/vb/unfair-restriction-v-t140025/index18.html)

Pay attention to the thread guidelines on the first page of those threads.