New Jobs plan

[RGacky3]

Oh wonderful, Obama has a new Jobs plan, and guess what the GOP is on board. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/georgia-works-boehner-cantor-obama-jobless-plan_n_950687.html?ir=Business)

OH wait, its Georgia works .... unemployed people get to work ... FOR FREE, oh and its worked so well in Georgie ... 19 people signed up.

How the hell would this work? Why would'nt a buisiness love free labor and then just not hire, hey we need some temp workers lets hire some, or why not just use some free labor, we need some extra shifts, naww we don't need to hire, there are tons of workers that can work for free.

The idea is that they'll get training and then get hired, my ass, If companies were willing to do that they would have done it already.

This does nothing to solve the demand problem, nothing to solve outsourcing, nothing to solve the wage problem, nothing to solve the productivity problem.

And you don't think the republicans will wnat this to be mandetory for the unemployed???

You don't think this won't be used to bust unoins and drive down wages? Obama is a idiot, a moron, this is not a jobs plan this is a prelude to a slave plan.

Its not hard to fix employment, but Obama does'nt want to, he's a corporate poodle.

[citizen of industry]

God that's rich. 8 weeks of slave labor anyone? I wonder what kind of "training" it is. Probably jobs simple enough for training to be completed in a day or two so they can get the max labor out of the slave before it expires, in industries traditionally unionized.

Fortunately, I read through the comments and except for a couple "people should work for their unemployment checks!" idiots most people are abhorred.

[RGacky3]

You know instead of paying workers to to work for free, i.e. subsidizing companies.

Why not fund worker cooperative, give out grands for them to fill some need, its so simple and so basic, but won't get any traction ... why? Because it does'nt benefit corporations.

[citizen of industry]

You know instead of paying workers to to work for free, i.e. subsidizing companies.

Why not fund worker cooperative, give out grands for them to fill some need, its so simple and so basic, but won't get any traction ... why? Because it does'nt benefit corporations.

That would be competition for the corporations - it'll never happen. The corporations are already pumping out a bunch of crap they can't sell to fill every imaginable need. Slavery seems to be the preferred alternative.

There's also the 4 day work-week for 5 days pay scheme to end unemployment. That'll never happen either.

[RGacky3]

You also can have co-determination corporate law restructuring to protect jobs, again never will happen.

[citizen of industry]

What is co-determination law? Something like democracy in the workplace or collective bargaining?

[RGacky3]

Its a law in Germany that companies with over 500 employees must have half of their board of directors be representatives of the workers, i.e. voted in by the workers (usually union guys). So its sort of a partial workplace democracy.

[citizen of industry]

I wonder what that does to the unions? I can imagine corrupt labor leaders and an emphasis on board of director elections than direct action. How does it work out in Germany?

[RGacky3]

I don't know ... I'm not in germany, although I'm pretty sure the board of director labor rep has to be from the workplace, not union leaders.

But I'd imagen there is a lot less industrial action, mainly because there is less need for it.

[RichardAWilson]

Socialism for Big Business, Capitalism for You and I.

This sounds like an idea from Nazi-Germany.

[Rocky Rococo]

The Democratic Wing of the Hegemony Party "jobs plan" has all sorts of doozies in there, such as the Colombia Free Trade Agreement. Let's see how that "trade equalization" with the "prevailing labor standards" in Colombia works out for us, shall we?