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Mythbuster
6th September 2011, 23:11
I have begun a new journey as to counter the missionaries and the religious Bible thumpers. The site is counterapologetics.blogspot.com

I need feedback so please help me out.

Revolution starts with U
7th September 2011, 02:30
Its pretty good. When you get a few more posts on there I would look into making it more easily navigable. Also, your one argument is posted twice, one after another... kind of redundant lol.
My one last bit of advice, is I would like to see more unfulfilled prophecy, and you also stated

This is the most major out of context prophecy. I will respond more in part 2 of this series.
I would like to see more about the out of context and flat-out unfulfilled prophecy.
Overall, a good read tho. I enjoyed it :D

Mythbuster
7th September 2011, 02:43
Thanks! I'm glad to recieve positive feedback. You're right that it is redundant. Perhaps I should have brought up another issue like if a Christian can lose salvation

eyeheartlenin
7th September 2011, 03:42
In response to mythbuster, if I understand correctly, you are calling a blog that promotes atheism, a "ministry," a word that denotes a religious undertaking? I just wondered why you used that word.

The objections under "Biblical defects" can be answered by a believer fairly easily; s/he would reply that human hands and human efforts put the Bible together, so that any defects would reflect human shortcomings and are secondary; if it is the Deity's will to express certain truths in scripture, those truths would be conveyed, in spite of the defects. Any believer who is not a fundamentalist (and there are a lot of non-fundamentalists who are believers) would probably not conclude that the defects invalidate the truth they find in scripture.

I hope you are aware there is an awful lot of variety in the way that people believe; my impression is that most believing adults have made their peace with the imperfections, contradictions, etc. in scripture. I respect all the work you must have done to begin to put the blog together; I just doubt that any nonfundamentalist Christian is going to be convinced by a frontal attack on her/his convictions.

Another thing that occurs to me is that religious belief is usually enacted in a group setting, i.e., Sunday School, Sunday morning worship, Wednesday night Bible study or prayer meeting, etc. So there is a de facto support group of like-minded people, reinforcing each individual believer. Again, logical argument is probably not gonna separate believers from their friends, who share their faith and offer them their acceptance. An atheist agitator would be trying to dismantle an already-existing community.

In a country where there is genuine proletarian culture, like places in Latin America or Europe, there is an attractive alternative to the community that religions offer individuals and families. In the US, that is emphatically not the case, which is another consideration relevant to your undertaking.

The other thing that occurs to me is that the argument that religion is invalid because of things like a lack of clarity (Have you ever tried reading Georg [György] Lukacs?) or "contradictory things" from different sources (Is "socialism in one country" a possibility or not? How can you know?) could easily be applied to Marxism.

I am all for the freedom not to believe and freedom for atheists (and every other non-fascist) to argue their points (I love the Bill of Rights and believe it gets stronger the more people discuss and debate); I just think convincing people to become atheists would likely be a by-product of first winning them to active participation in the workers' movement, rather than through appeals to logic or the shortcomings of the Bible.

Mythbuster
7th September 2011, 03:50
"In response to mythbuster, if I understand correctly, you are calling a blog that promotes atheism, a "ministry," a word that denotes a religious undertaking? I just wondered why you used that word."

You bring up a good point. The name of the blog is a pun on CARM.org which is the Christian apologetics and research ministry.

Revolution starts with U
7th September 2011, 06:21
I think that's a good point tho; most people, myself included, largely live in a socially created echo chamber. Tho the ultimate goal is to get the believer to question his belief, perhaps it is smarter, from a marketing standpoint, to target fellow atheists, post-theists, and anti-religious folks.
This way you still give like minded folks the ammunition they need to do by far the most powerful form of propaganda (take all negative connotations from that word :lol:); face-to-face interaction. And you are still getting your message across.
My response to you, Eyeheartlenin, would be then; what reason would anyone have to believe ANY portion of the Bible is divinely inspired then? I would have every reason to believe A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is just as divinely inspired as the Bible.