The future of Cuba [Archive]

Le Libérer

26th October 2003, 19:32

After his recent seven-hour speech, Fidel announced his brother Raul will be successor. I have heard talk that Raul is a hard liner and will not be the force Fidel is.

Also Bush announced last week the US will tighten sanctions on Cuba. I'm truly worried about the future of Cuba. Any thoughts?

I can only imagine the people of Cuba are very worried.

Lardlad95

26th October 2003, 21:46

THe Senate and House voted to ease restrictions on travel to cuba and on sanctions...though bush will likely veto it

Le Libérer

26th October 2003, 22:01

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2003, 10:46 PM
THe Senate and House voted to ease restrictions on travel to cuba and on sanctions...though bush will likely veto it
I do beleive the senate and house vote will end in a veto. I found this a few days ago.

US President George W Bush has announced fresh measures designed to hasten the end of communist rule in Cuba.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3181048.stm

Invader Zim

26th October 2003, 22:20

I think that the very fact that Fidel is turning Cuba into a vertual hereditary monarchy is something to be worried about, it practically justifies everything that the yanks have been saying about Cuba. The people should deside who rules Cuba not Fidel.

Bush will also just implement another "batista" if he gets his grubby mitts on Cuba. Cuba for some time has been going down the China road as well, i believe that the next decade will see the end of socialism in Cuba.

UnionofSovietSocialistRepublics

26th October 2003, 22:25

i agree, i think socialism will come to an end there :( however i dont think nepatism is a problem in cuba, i meen raul is the only person related to fidel in any kind of position of power.

Le Libérer

26th October 2003, 22:45

Well Fidel isnt getting any younger. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39431000/jpg/_39431362_castro_stone203.jpg was reading this story about Oliver Stones new movie,Comandante , about Castro. Say, has anyone seen this movie? I didnt even know it was out yet.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3177946.stm

Bradyman

27th October 2003, 00:20

personally, I think that Castro should not appoint his successor. I think that the people should vote on the matter, and hopefully it will come with a good socialist leader. By appointing a successor, it just gives the US another bad thing to say about Castro and Cuba.

I do fear that socialist Cuba will fall, I fear it very deeply.

Fidelbrand

27th October 2003, 17:04

Hey.. Raul isn't much younger than Fidel~~~~ who will be the next oneafter Raul? :(

Why Granny Fidel don't let the peiople cast a new socialist leader as Bradyman says~~ <_< come on ~~!!

S.A.D. ~~

Fidelbrand

27th October 2003, 17:07

Originally posted by Debora [email protected] 26 2003, 11:45 PM
Well Fidel isnt getting any younger. http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/39431000/jpg/_39431362_castro_stone203.jpg was reading this story about Oliver Stones new movie,Comandante , about Castro. Say, has anyone seen this movie? I didnt even know it was out yet.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3177946.stm
"Stone declines to sit in judgement, although he does allow the camera to drift over the Communist leader's BMW and - most extraordinary of all - Nike trainers."

MY~~~~~~ :(

Danton

27th October 2003, 17:22

Say, has anyone seen this movie? I didnt even know it was out yet.

I kind of saw it a couple of weeks ago... The thing is, I went to the "other" cinema in covent garden and they have these leather couches at the back, anyway you know how Fidel kind of rambles a bit and those couches are so comfy and I'd had a couple of doobies and a few cans, well... I fell asleep.

What I do remember is that Stone was obviously charmed and exaltant to the point where his questioning was rather toothless and any difficult inquiries were easily deflected by Fidel...

Raul Castro is very popular amongst the communist youth of Cuba and has the support of the majority of high ranking officers and lest we forget he has had valuble input in the descision making process since Moncada...

Le Libérer

27th October 2003, 21:38

Originally posted by [email protected] 27 2003, 06:04 PM
Hey.. Raul isn't much younger than Fidel~~~~ who will be the next oneafter Raul? :(

Why Granny Fidel don't let the peiople cast a new socialist leader as Bradyman says~~ <_< come on ~~!!

S.A.D. ~~
Lets see, Raul is 70 Fidel is 76. Rauls the man. So if he does go into power, and Cuba can hold out against the US, maybe the ppl will have a chance to vote after Raul for the appropriate successor.

"Stone declines to sit in judgement, although he does allow the camera to drift over the Communist leader's BMW and - most extraordinary of all - Nike trainers."

MY~~~~~~

I know...............
I did find his comment about the skinny camera man funny. He told Stone to leave him behind in Cuba so Fidel could fatten him up! :D

ComradeRobertRiley

28th October 2003, 13:43

6 years between to two castros is not alot, so the people hopefully will be able to choose after raul.

I have heared that even if fidel hadnt said Raul will be his successor, that raul would be the best option anyway, also I have heard that raul is more of a commie than fidel is.

Fidelbrand

28th October 2003, 14:31

Comrades,

I found this dumb thing during internet search about Raul Castro:
http://www.usdoj.gov/marshals/wanted/major...ses/castro.html (http://www.usdoj.gov/marshals/wanted/major-cases/castro.html)
:D

but do any of u has the profile of Raul? date of birth , etc ?

thanks! :)

Severian

2nd November 2003, 02:20

Does anyone have a link on this alleged statement by Fidel?

Hawker

2nd November 2003, 17:26

Well I think this site has it:

My Webpage (http://www.ratb.org.uk)

Dr. Rosenpenis

2nd November 2003, 17:48

Castro ought to come up with a nice group of communists. Put 'em on the ballot and have open and free election. Giving the people a choice of capitalists ios pointless, because nobody with their own interests in mind would vote for him/her. Placing only commies on the ballot is perfectly democratic, and I hope the world could see that.

Nice website, hawker.

FistFullOfSteel

2nd November 2003, 17:50

Severian

2nd November 2003, 22:32

Originally posted by [email protected] 2 2003, 12:26 PM
Well I think this site has it:

My Webpage (http://www.ratb.org.uk)
I looked, and don't see it.

But I googled up some articles on it:
Assoc. Press: (http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/rcqastr10501.html)
"Fidel Castro, 74, has repeatedly referred to the 69-year-old Raul as his successor, and Raul Castro is first in the constitutional line of succession as second secretary of the Communist Party of Cuba and first vice president of both the governing Council of State and Council of Ministers."

Fidel Castro is first secretary of the CP and president of the Council of State. Raul Castro is second secretary and vice president. Most governments have similar constitutional provisions for the succession. There is nothing abnormal or undemocratic about it. Elections would presumably be held at the regularly scheduled time.

People's Daily: (http://fpeng.peopledaily.com.cn/200106/29/eng20010629_73814.html)

"Speaking for the first time about a possible successor since his fainting spell last weekend, Fidel Castro told NBC in an interview Thursday night that his brother Raul remains his likely replacement.

"Raul is very healthy ... undoubtedly, he's the comrade who has the most authority after me," Castro said in the report aired on NBC's Nightly News.

"And he has the most experience," Castro said. "Therefore I think he has the capacity to succeed me."

Sounds to me like expressing the opinion and hope that Raul would be chosen in elections following Fidel's death. IMO Fidel has every right to express this opinion.

Alejandro C

5th November 2003, 08:26

Originally posted by [email protected] 26 2003, 05:20 PM
I think that the very fact that Fidel is turning Cuba into a vertual hereditary monarchy is something to be worried about, it practically justifies everything that the yanks have been saying about Cuba.
that's rediculous. raul would be chosen succesor because of what he is not who he is. it is very typical of revolutionary sociey to have 2 generations. the first generation is the people who actually fought in the revolutionary war. the second is those who did not fight but follow ideologically what the first generation believes. the leadership positions will always be given to those first generation people until they are all too old or dead. this exact same thing happened in China. all the leaders until Deng (i think) were participants in the long march. Raul would be chosen because his experience and contributions demand respect and earn him a leadership position. During the war the 5 who were leaders were fidel, che, raul, bayos, and pais. che, bayo, and pais along with other possible leaders like camilo were killed in the war or shortly after. Raul and fidel have always been the two leaders since. it is natural for raul to be next in line.