Should Gladiatorial matches be legal?

[Princess Luna]

I was thinking today, people have a right to control their own bodies and since in a socialist society people would not be driven to things solely out desperation for money to buy food, should be people (provided they are rational adults) be allowed to kill eachother for public enjoyment?

[thesadmafioso]

Nice troll, certainly not lacking in creativity at the very least. I'd give it a 8/10.

[Stalin Ate My Homework]

should be people (provided they are rational adults) be allowed to kill eachother for public enjoyment?

:lol: Something of a contradiction...

[Nox]

Trolling or not, it seems like a pretty interesting question to me.

[ColonelCossack]

Lol I nearly voted yes 4 teh luhlz

[Bud Struggle]

Internet forums are as close as I want to come to such things. :)

[thriller]

I wondered this too. Maybe we should try and bring back duels in order to to solve disputes between adults.

[DarkPast]

I think people who'd kill each other purely for enjoyment need psychiatric help... :mellow:
Hopefully a socialist society would reduce the number of suicidal people within it.

Hm... maybe it'd be OK if they were terminally ill or something and wanted to go out in a blaze.

[Bud Struggle]

Hm... maybe it'd be OK if they were terminally ill or something and wanted to go out in a blaze.

Yea, but what if that person killed an innocent person in the duel? Naw--everyone should just behave.

[Column No.4]

I voted yes, if youre two consenting adults why do i care if you two choose to duel to the death, its not hurting me.

[electro_fan]

umm ... how about ... no??

[Pretty Flaco]

This topic is silly

[Xenophiliac]

I would not support gladiatorial combat for public amusement or sport, but I would the idea of two adults settling a personal matter with a duel. In any society.

[o well this is ok I guess]

I don't think it's a question of whether or not we should make it legal.

Who gets up in the morning and think "man, I sure would love to brutally kill a man for a jeering audience"?

[Le Rouge]

No, by a overwhelming majority

[Column No.4]

I don't think it's a question of whether or not we should make it legal.

Who gets up in the morning and think "man, I sure would love to brutally kill a man for a jeering audience"?

If my opponent were consenting as well i would entertain the thought.

[o well this is ok I guess]

If my opponent were consenting as well i would entertain the thought. "Entertaining" a thought is quite a bit different than the action of the thought. I mean, how much do we entertain, in comparison to how much we do?

[Ocean Seal]

So what you're saying is that socialists should support a sport which once featured societies "undesirable's" killing each other for necessity to please the masses and the elite classes. Wonderful... This is what internet forums are for.

[Column No.4]

"Entertaining" a thought is quite a bit different than the action of the thought. I mean, how much do we entertain, in comparison to how much we do?

Ive done quite a bit of what ive entertained. I said id entertain it because in the socialist world that would allow it my life would almost certainly be different, therefore i cant say with certainty that i would duel someone.

[o well this is ok I guess]

Ive done quite a bit of what ive entertained. I said id entertain it because in the socialist world that would allow it my life would almost certainly be different, therefore i cant say with certainty that i would duel someone. I do not understand your reasoning. You say that because your life would be this magical "different", you would then decide it a-ok to arbitrarily take a life.

What difference in life is there for one to justify taking life, in our "socialist world"?

[Misanthrope]

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[MarxSchmarx]

I voted yes, if youre two consenting adults why do i care if you two choose to duel to the death, its not hurting me.

I think you're on to something, but it's only half the story. Gladiators are a spectacle, and there must be a sufficiently large audience for this nonsense to be realized. My guess is that under socialism there will not, so such combats would be basically on the level of a brawl. I highly doubt even boxing matches or wwe, much less fights to the death, would have any spectators, or even a venue willing to put together the psychos that would enjoy such a thing. They may in some sense be "allowed" but in any half-decent society, hardly anybody would care to partake in them.

[Magón]

I have a question: Who the hell, in this day and age, is still thinking of hosting Gladiatorial fights?

[Column No.4]

I do not understand your reasoning. You say that because your life would be this magical "different", you would then decide it a-ok to arbitrarily take a life.

What difference in life is there for one to justify taking life, in our "socialist world"?

What does it matter to you if it doesnt effect you? I say my life would be different because it almost certainly would in a socialist state, i could be married, have children, etc.

[Column No.4]

I think you're on to something, but it's only half the story. Gladiators are a spectacle, and there must be a sufficiently large audience for this nonsense to be realized. My guess is that under socialism there will not, so such combats would be basically on the level of a brawl. I highly doubt even boxing matches or wwe, much less fights to the death, would have any spectators, or even a venue willing to put together the psychos that would enjoy such a thing. They may in some sense be "allowed" but in any half-decent society, hardly anybody would care to partake in them.

It really makes no difference to me whether they take place or not, so long as they dont effect me. Back in the day people dueled all the time to settle disputes and it seemed to work perfectly fine.

[thefinalmarch]

situation is entirely hypothetical

thread is fucking dumb

OP is trippin' balls

[Princess Luna]

I wondered this too. Maybe we should try and bring back duels in order to to solve disputes between adults.
Dueling is extremely archaic and I doubt in this day and age anybody would want to, however if someone did want to settle a dispute that way and the other person agreed, than it's their lives and if they want to be idiots amd kill themselves, what right do you or me have to tell them otherwise? I apply the same logic to gladotorial matches

[RGacky3]

Why would anyone ask this question? Or even think this is an issue that needs bringing up.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Who says that socialist societies can't become decadent? In a society where nobody wants for anything, people are living longer and healthier lives, people are still going to be human; some of them will be thrillseekers, and extreme sports may become passe or be seen to lack a certain something. Gambling won't have the same level of risk associated with it as in capitalist economies. All it takes is one pair of individuals willing to risk the one thing of true value to them - their lives - in a test of skill against each other.

I think the difference between a duel and a gladiator match in such a society would be more a case of whether there is a public audience or not. Speaking for myself, I think my curiosity would get the better of me; I'm not sure how I would react to the sight of someone being killed for real.

[DarkPast]

Yea, but what if that person killed an innocent person in the duel? Naw--everyone should just behave.

I meant if both participants were in such a state.

[ComradeMan]

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[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Gladiator clip

One of my favourite films. It has just the right mix of action and drama. Although I don't think they had crossbows back then.

[#FF0000]

One of my favourite films. It has just the right mix of action and drama. Although I don't think they had crossbows back then.

They had something like it. So did the Greeks

[Mather]

A big no from me. Thankfully we have moved beyond such times and hopefully we won't be returning to such times anytime soon.

[ComradeMan]

One of my favourite films. It has just the right mix of action and drama. Although I don't think they had crossbows back then.

No one is 100% sure but it seems they did.

http://dagr.univ-tlse2.fr/sdx/dagr/feuilleter.xsp?tome=1&partie=1&numPage=400&filtre=arbal%C3%A8te%20&nomEntree=ARCUBALLISTA

The Italian word "balestra" seems to derive from a Latin term too...