View Full Version : Francisco "Pancho" Villa
Hawker
26th October 2003, 06:34
I think that he's a great man who fought not only for the freedom and equality of the Mexican people but he also fought against American imperialism and he was the first person to successfully invade US soil.
marxstudent
26th October 2003, 07:43
One of the greatest men who ever lived. He's awesome.
marxstudent
27th October 2003, 01:39
I think he's cool cause he didn't know shit about military tactics or politics but just did what he felt was right.
RBG Soldier
28th October 2003, 03:28
Pancho Villa is truly a Revolutionary hero. Like marxstudent said he had no political message, and also he couldn't even read. Which let me know that the masses don't learn from books, but actions. Zapata is the same, he had no message to preach to the people but that the system was unjust and he was going to change it. That's RBG right there, Revolutionary But Gangsta wit it.............
Hawker
28th October 2003, 04:07
Villa was a true revolutionary and a vanguard of the people because he did what was right and had no political purpose,his only purpose was helping the Mexican people.
marxstudent
29th October 2003, 05:26
Revolutionary But Gangsta wit it.............
LOL!
It sucks though because you can't find much information on Villa or Zapata- or at least I can't. I'm convinced my internet researching skills are very limited.
Hawker
29th October 2003, 22:12
Here's his biography:
Born Doroteo Arango in San Juan del Río, Durango, in 1877 (1879 according to some sources), the man most of the world knew as Pancho Villa spent much of his life in Durango until, at age 16, he killed a man who had raped his younger sister. Little record exists of the next four or five years of his life, during which time he changed his name to Francisco Villa to evade the law. By the time he was 20, Villa had moved northward to Chihuahua, working on and off as a miner in Parral while selling stolen cattle in Chihuahua (official government biographies list his occupation then as "wholesale meat-seller"). In 1899 he returned to mining, this time in Santa Eulalia near Chihuahua, but he soon tired of the laborer's life and added bank robbery to cattle rustling and murder on the list of crimes for which he was wanted by the Díaz government.
Villa's Robin Hood story began after he established himself and his bandit followers in the sierras in 1900. Officially, the years 1900-09 are "unaccounted for," but it was during this period that he became a legendary hero to the poor for skillfully evading the Porfiriato's oppressive rurales. In 1910 Villa and his men came down from the hills to join Francisco I. Madero's revolutionary forces, thereby making a historical transition from bandidos to revolucionarios. The charismatic figure was able to recruit an army of thousands, including a substantial number of Americans, some of whom were made captains in the División del Norte. Villa even created one squadron made up entirely of Americans under the leadership of Capt. Tracey Richardson, a man who apparently fought with many different insurgent armies around the world at that time.
Following Madero's short-lived victory and assassination, Villa remained in command of his División del Norte army in resistance--along with Coahuila's Venustiano Carranza and Sonora's Alvaro Obregón--against the 1913-14 Victoriano Huerta dictatorship. Around this time Villa also became something of a folk hero in the U.S, and Hollywood filmmakers as well as U.S. newspaper photographers flocked to Northern Mexico to record his battle exploits--many of which were staged for the benefit of the cameras.
Villa's forces were based in Chihuahua, where Villa ruled over northern Mexico like a medieval warlord. Villa financed his army by stealing from the endless cattle herds in northern Mexico and selling beeves north of the border, where he found plenty of U.S. merchants willing to sell him guns and ammunition. Faced with a stagnant economy, he issued his own money; if merchants refused to take it, they risked being shot. Executions, which Villa often ordered on a whim, were usually left to his friend Rodolfo Fierro, best known by his nickname "El Carnicero" ("the Butcher"). In true Robin Hood style, he broke up the vast land holdings of local hacendados and parceled them out to the widows and orphans of his fallen soldiers.
During fiestas the mustachioed legend would dance all night with female camp followers, although he didn't drink. When Emiliano Zapata insisted Villa join him in a toast when their two armies met outside Mexico City in December 1914, Villa gagged on a swig of brandy. He was an avid swimmer and would run to stay in shape. According to one of Villa's last surviving widows, he officially married 26 times.
A split among the revolutionary leaders soon pitted Villa against Obregón and Carranza. When the U.S. government came out openly in support of the Carranza presidency, Villa retaliated by raiding U.S border towns, most notably Columbus, New Mexico. On the U.S. side of the border, Villa's image plummeted while many in Mexico saw Villa as an avenger of decades of yanqui oppression. Despite his popularity, the combined forces of Carranza and Obregón defeated the Villistas in one battle after another After two U.S. Army "punitive expeditions" into Mexico in 1916 and 1919 failed to route Villa, the Mexican government accepted his surrender and retired Villa on a general's salary to Canutillo, Durango. In 1923 he was assassinated while returning from bank business in Parral, Chihuahua.
Today Villa is remembered with pride by most Mexicans for having led the most important military campaigns of the constitutionalist revolution, in which his troops were victorious as far south as Zacatecas and Mexico City, east as far as Tampico, and west as far as Casas Grandes. Because of Villa's Columbus escapade and subsequent evasion of U.S. troops, he is also often cited as the only foreign military personage ever to have "successfully" invaded continental U.S. territory. When speaking with Mexicans--especially norteños--about Villa, don't underestimate the respect his name still garners in Mexico.
Hawker
29th October 2003, 22:16
Here's a picture:
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/villao.jpg
FatFreeMilk
29th October 2003, 23:05
Pancho Villa is tight! I had his picture on my folder for a while and I loved telling everybody who asked "who's that?" who he was :D
My dad has this mercedes benz truck (unimog) which looks totally militaried out. He's gonna get a mural of Pancho and Zapata on it so it won't look so ..yeah. :D
FatFreeMilk
29th October 2003, 23:21
Why is only Pancho in quotes in the thread title? It's just an observation...
marxstudent
30th October 2003, 00:34
Good stuff Hawker thanks.
Fatfree I got a pic of Villa on the back of my binder. :D
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
30th October 2003, 22:38
Here a few links to cheer you up
http://ojinaga.com/villa/
http://www.sp.utexas.edu/jrn/cwp/pvg/columbus.html
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/pan...nchovilla1.html (http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/panchovilla1.html)
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/panvill.html <-- Article of Pancho supposedly beeing a German agent :)
Anyway these links are just the result of a simple www.google.com search on "Pancho Villa"
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