Star wars: the old republic

[Princess Luna]

Anybody else hyped about it?
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[The Man]

No. I don't think it's going to live up to the hype.

[Tablo]

Not at all. If it were more sandboxy like galaxies I would be excited. I would much much much rather have KOTOR 3.

[Nox]

I was always skeptical of games such as Warhammer Online, Aion and Rift when people said that they would be the game that removed WoW's majority share of the MMORPG market. And I was right every time.

However, I do think that SWTOR will at least remove WoW's dominant share, if not knock it off the top spot. And I know Guild Wars sucks, but the release of Guild Wars 2 will certainly help with this.

They have been working on SWTOR for around 6-8 years. It's totally unique which is what WoW was when it was released, and they are advertising it alot. I really think SWTOR will go somewhere. Me and my friends (who all play WoW) are quitting when SWTOR comes out - even the top youtube WoW players are quitting WoW for SWTOR e.g. Swifty.

I have always been a fan of WoW, and I've watched it grow from just 2-3 million players to the ~13 million it has today. I personally think WoW's already dying. Wrath of the Lich King was a bad expansion for both PvE and PvP, and now Cataclysm has gone and totally ruined all the storylines of Azeroth, so there is huge nostalgia for TBC and Vanilla - To the extent that I believe Blizzard will release Vanilla and TBC servers. But WoW is definitely dying out - the game is totally centred around level 85, so less and less people are levelling and having fun at lower levels, most people migrate to the 'good' raiding/pvp servers, leaving many servers totally dead. I personally witnessed, over the course of 3 years, Darkspear EU going from being one of the most popular servers in Europe to being nearly dead. Go on any server on alliance, there is nobody in Goldshire, before, it was always packed with people of all levels having so much fun. WoW is definitely dying, and I think soon their player figures will start to slow down then decrease.

[Tablo]

Wow wasn't unique when it released. It gained its initial popularity due to Blizzard's warcraft fanboys.

[Luisrah]

Very hyped yes haha

[Nox]

Wow wasn't unique when it released. It gained its initial popularity due to Blizzard's warcraft fanboys.

The similarities between WoW and games such as Aion, Warhammer Online and Rift are far greater than the similarities between WoW and the games it supposedly took ideas from.

As a matter of fact, I had a similar conversation with a friend who used to play Everquest (the game that WoW supposedly copied), and he said that there are some similarities but really WoW is totally different in most ways.

Even if WoW did take ideas from other games, isn't that just a good strategy? WoW is so popular today for these reasons:

- The fact that they took some tried and tested good ideas from various other games and put them in their game, as virtually every other game in history has done.
- They based their storylines on a very popular game series (Warcraft).
- They added many unique things to it.
- The endgame in WoW is the main focus of the game.

I've played many other MMORPGs (Ultima, EVE Online, Guild Wars, Runescape, Aion, Rift) and although some of them (Aion and Rift) are blatent copies of WoW, none of them are anywhere near as good in terms of entertainment and addiction.

The way I see it, in the MMORPG market you have 5 main players if you include SWTOR & the Guild Wars series:

- World of Warcraft
- Runescape
- EVE Online
- Guild Wars Series
- SWTOR

If you look at all 5 of those games, you realise that they are all fairly unique. Most games that came after the release of WoW, Runescape, and Guild Wars copied alot of ideas from one specific game, e.g. Aion and Rift copied most aspects of their game from WoW and added their own awful touch to it.

This debate is about whether SWTOR will live up to its hype, and their strategy is very similar to WoWs, e.g.

- They based their game on a very popular Movie series, which will make it instantly popular with Star Wars fans. WoW took a similar strategy.
- They have taken some tried and tested good ideas from a range of other successful games and added their own touch to it. WoW did the same.
- The game is very unique, from what I can tell it's unlike any other MMORPG I've played. WoW did the same to an extent.
- They've been working on it for a very long time, they're putting alot of effort into making the game brilliant. WoW did the same.

I guess the only way we will find out is by waiting until maybe a year after its release. I'm not saying that it will destroy WoW, I'm just saying that with the introduction of SWTOR as well as Guild Wars 2 in a short time period, WoW will certainly lose its domination of the MMORPG market and we will start to see the downfall of WoW (in my opinion it's been going downhill ever since part-way through WOTLK).

[bcbm]

Not at all. If it were more sandboxy like galaxies I would be excited. I would much much much rather have KOTOR 3.

this. looks kind of cool, but i liked the style of swg more