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Révolutionnaire Acadien
31st August 2011, 05:07
As a former reactionary, I fancy myself able to look at things through a reactionary lens. I know quite a few right leaning workers, and I know the reactionary viewpoint of why they are who they are. As I've gained a revolutionary consciousness, I wonder the revolutionary reasonings of why they are they the way they are. Is it just that they are being duped by the elites, or is it more detailed and complex then that? Is the concept of a right leaning worker is a theoretical quagmire for non former reactionary Revolutionaries, or if the rightist worker is a well examined concept? I call out this humble question to all Revolutionaries more seasoned and learned than I. Merci Beaucoup!

Os Cangaceiros
31st August 2011, 06:54
"The ideas of the ruling class are in every epoch the ruling ideas, i.e. the class which is the ruling material force of society, is at the same time its ruling intellectual force." - Charlie Marx

I think that's a pretty good brief summary. Of course there's a lot written on this subject, because a lot of communists sometimes feel that compulsive urge to bang their head against the walls and scream, "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU FOOLS?! WHY DON'T YOU REALIZE THAT I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG?!" et cetera.

Ballyfornia
31st August 2011, 13:49
Look up Gramsci and Cultural Hegemony

Column No.4
31st August 2011, 14:32
I always thought Steinbeck said it best.

"Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires."

Aurorus Ruber
31st August 2011, 16:32
I have noticed this problem as well and it has long baffled me. It often seems like much of the working class favors authoritarian social movements and pure untrammeled to capitalism to an extent that capitalists themselves would often find rather excessive. Consider the militant libertarian philosophy pushed by people like Glenn Beck or the whole Christian fundamentalist movement. These movements are not only well to the right of what many capitalists themselves appear to support, but would pose some serious problems for the functioning of modern capitalism if actually implemented.

Much of this may stem from a distorted understanding of how the world works combined with some genuine hostility toward the ruling class buried deep underneath this false consciousness. Workers sense correctly that the world is not under their control, that people in power are exploiting and dominating them. But they perceive this domination through distorted lenses of ruling class ideology and their criticism gets directed away from criticizing capitalism itself and toward scapegoating or pursuing dead-end movements.

Commissar Rykov
31st August 2011, 18:05
I have noticed this problem as well and it has long baffled me. It often seems like much of the working class favors authoritarian social movements and pure untrammeled to capitalism to an extent that capitalists themselves would often find rather excessive. Consider the militant libertarian philosophy pushed by people like Glenn Beck or the whole Christian fundamentalist movement. These movements are not only well to the right of what many capitalists themselves appear to support, but would pose some serious problems for the functioning of modern capitalism if actually implemented.

Much of this may stem from a distorted understanding of how the world works combined with some genuine hostility toward the ruling class buried deep underneath this false consciousness. Workers sense correctly that the world is not under their control, that people in power are exploiting and dominating them. But they perceive this domination through distorted lenses of ruling class ideology and their criticism gets directed away from criticizing capitalism itself and toward scapegoating or pursuing dead-end movements.
The problem is the Working Class has the militancy this is why you see these right wing Proles. They want action to fix their situation but what they are really doing is just supporting Bourgeoisie pseudo-action or as I like to call it Mussolini Style Action that accomplishes absolutely nothing while looking busy. Underdeveloped Class Consciousness, lack of a solid actual Left Wing, and almost a century of Anti-Worker Anti-Revolutionary Left propaganda has led the Workers to be rather disconnected to reality. The point now is to educate and get the Workers reintegrated with the reality that their Masters are so glad they haven't a clue about at the moment.

Pioneers_Violin
1st September 2011, 18:22
I'm a worker here in America and have noticed the same thing.

We blame ourselves first when exploited by others.

I feel that it's a cultural thing. We are brought up to believe that "anyone can make it in this great Land of Opportunity" and if you fail, it's nobody's fault but your own. :rolleyes:

It is often possible to change peoples minds about this, especially now during the current Crisis.
A whole lot more people than usual now perceive that the system is just plain awful and I've found some people willing to listen in some unlikely places.

We Lefties need to get out more and talk with people.