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CynicalIdealist
29th August 2011, 22:27
I've heard Marxists critical of Maoism say that it's a bankrupt doctrine because he essentially called for "New Democracy" to build capitalism under feudal conditions. If that's the case, what is the alternative for peasants in countries with no working class?

Die Neue Zeit
30th August 2011, 02:36
New Democracy's flaw is the inclusion of supposedly "national"/"patriotic" bourgeois elements and also not-so-patriotic elements of the urban and rural petit-bourgeoisie. However, state capitalism (not liberal capitalism or dirigisme) of some sort is necessary.

CynicalIdealist
30th August 2011, 05:08
So what's the difference, exactly?

DaringMehring
30th August 2011, 05:26
What the Bolsheviks did (when they were revolutionary).

Expropriate rather than ally with the domestic bourgeoisie.

Try to spread the revolution to more developed countries.

Survive as best they can.

Obs
30th August 2011, 11:34
I've heard Marxists critical of Maoism say that it's a bankrupt doctrine because he essentially called for "New Democracy" to build capitalism under feudal conditions. If that's the case, what is the alternative for peasants in countries with no working class?
No such country exists to this day, so that's really not a very relevant question.

RHIZOMES
30th August 2011, 12:50
No such country exists to this day, so that's really not a very relevant question.

I think the findings of modern-day anthropology, sociology and political science would disagree with your assertion that there are no countries with peasant-majority populations. Latin America, Asia, Africa... all contain many countries with rather sizable peasant populations.

That type of thinking seems to believe that countries can only be either capitalist or feudal at any given time, rather than what is often in the case 'in the real world': a complex social interaction between two competing and antithetical economic systems.

Obs
30th August 2011, 17:36
I think the findings of modern-day anthropology, sociology and political science would disagree with your assertion that there are no countries with peasant-majority populations. Latin America, Asia, Africa... all contain many countries with rather sizable peasant populations.
Of course they do, I'd be an idiot to suggest otherwise. Here's what I said didn't exist:

countries with no working class