Can You Be Blacklisted In the 21st Century if...

[RedMarxist]

Can you be blacklisted in the 21st century if you are a 'open' Communist, specifically in the United States?

Right now I am young(and most likely stupid for posting this).I don't yet have a job, have not left high school yet, and have not decided on what university I plan to go to yet.

But, once I get to college I was planning to get in touch with my local Communist Party(I'd even join the CPUSA if that was all there was, better than nothing I guess) and join it's Youth Branch. I was planning to join my local socialist movement on campus if they have one too.

My burning question is, can I be blacklisted by certain reactionary groups/the US government/my future employer?

Will they blacklist me for simply being on this website and posting this?

-Red Marxist-

[Nox]

I don't think the US government could blacklist you for being a Communist, but I do know that there are anti-Communist laws in many states. A future private employer could blacklist you for whatever-the-hell reason they want.

[piet11111]

I think you can be legally blacklisted for certain government positions but we all know you will be illegally blacklisted anyway.

[pluckedflowers]

Given the rise in online background checks, I'd say real life involvement in a communist group might be safer than posting on Facebook, at least as far as getting a job with a private company is concerned.

As for the government, I don't think there's any specific anti-communist blacklist anymore, but the FBI is quite active in targeting activists of all stripes and either trying to entrap them into illegal activity or bust them on specious charges of aiding foreign terrorist groups.

[RedMarxist]

I have been very vocal on this website. Is it possible "they" know who I am?

And, furthermore, why do anti-Communist laws still exist? I thought the Cold War ended 20 years ago!

[TheGodlessUtopian]

There is always the chance that you might be blacklisted, but as said before, the government will go after anyone, of any age, that goes against it even slightly. But as far as group involvement goes I wouldn't worry about it too much. Maybe just keep slightly toned down rhetoric when you are near your boss.

[Luc]

Not anymore, they black list you if your a muslim.

/joke

[#FF0000]

You should be fine unless you're going for some government job

[a rebel]

You guys know that movie 7 with Brad Pitt and Morgan Freeman? cause in the movie they talk about the government blacklisting books, and if you go the library and check one out they have your name. What do you think are the chances of that being real are? and if so I really hope they don't to it to Amazon....

[thesadmafioso]

This isn't the 1950's, your fine. The US government doesn't really consider communism to be an active threat to its interests at the moment, so they could care less what jobs we do or don't have, as long as we are not in the state department or something.

[TheGodlessUtopian]

I have been very vocal on this website. Is it possible "they" know who I am?

And, furthermore, why do anti-Communist laws still exist? I thought the Cold War ended 20 years ago!

Maybe,but than again that is only if you have done something.Why would they want to go after a "kid" posting on a leftist forum? Ultimately is doesn't really matter how active you are online since the government doesn't really need the internet to find you.

You seem paranoid,just take a breath and relax,if you haven't done anything that threatens their interest you are fine.If you think they have a profile of you somewhere just because you post here than consider that everyone else here also has a profile.Meaning,it means nothing.

Why do the anti-communist laws still exist? Because the bourgeoisie never knows when the socialists and communists and other revolutionaries will have a surge again.They are still afraid.

[Tommy4ever]

Well, I know that even in the UK, in the 1990s Peter Madelson was investigated by MI5 due to the fact he was in the Young Communist League. :lol: If an employer is able to find a link between you and some socialist group through just googling your name, then that won't help your chances of getting a job. But you won't have government agents smashing through your windows and black bagging you unless you are involved into something majorly illegal.

[The Idler]

Yes, you may be blacklisted though I think it is illegal to do so in some jurisdictions, it still goes on.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

If a prospective employer finds out you advocate the abolition of wage slavery, you can probably expect that they'll reject your application.

The same goes if you have been involved in a union or union organizing and they find out.

It doesn't matter whether or not it's officially legal. Bourgeois law serves the bourgeoisie. They use it as they see fit. If need be, they will just say there was another "more qualified" candidate... if they say anything at all.

You can also come under the focus of law enforcement, secret police, etc.

In some places it can get you beaten or killed, whether by rightists, vigilantes, company thugs or some official or semi-official arm of the bourgeois state.

It can interfere with travel, migration, etc.

[Commissar Rykov]

If a prospective employer finds out you advocate the abolition of wage slavery, you can probably expect that they'll reject your application.

The same goes if you have been involved in a union or union organizing and they find out.

It doesn't matter whether or not it's officially legal. Bourgeois law serves the bourgeoisie. They use it as they see fit. If need be, they will just say there was another "more qualified" candidate... if they say anything at all.

You can also come under the focus of law enforcement, secret police, etc.

In some places it can get you beaten or killed, whether by rightists, vigilantes, company thugs or some official or semi-official arm of the bourgeois state.

It can interfere with travel, migration, etc.
Agreed, I have found that since I fought my last employer to get the Unemployment I was due it has lead to people just outright rejecting my applications citing that my last employer stated I created problems for them. Damn right I did and my State came down on my side...too bad that means now I am pretty damn fucked as it shows to anyone looking to hire me that I understand my rights within the current system and I could be a problem for any company that is just looking for workers they can quickly dump when profits need to be padded.

[BostonCharlie]

If you go overt in your Communism, forget about getting any job requiring a security clearance. Even if you are not on a formal blacklist, if the investigation finds your political activity, you won't get your ticket.

[Dumb]

Pain in the neck that it may be, blacklisting shows you're relevant.

[black magick hustla]

It can interfere with travel, migration, etc.

idk, it can bur tbh either u have to be important or you did some illegal shit that is in the system. the state can be really disorganized and not every shit the local police keeps tabs of is going to appear on another state.

[Chris]

I've have had great trouble in finding job. When googling my name, wiki page Young Communists of Norway is the first result. Maaaay have something to do with it. Then again, it's normally a hell to get a job in Norway if you don't already know someone working there.

[Nothing Human Is Alien]

idk, it can bur tbh either u have to be important or you did some illegal shit that is in the system. the state can be really disorganized and not every shit the local police keeps tabs of is going to appear on another state.

I don't think you have to be "important." If you need to apply for a visa, residency, citizenship, etc. in some places they ask questions and do searches.

For example, if you belonged to the Communist Party in China because that's what you do to get a better job in your auto plant, and then later want to enter the U.S., you'll be asked about it. You can be denied on that basis too.

Or maybe you have to Burmese-born parents and belong to some leftist activist grouping in England, and write about the military regime in Myanmar in their press. When you apply in advance for a visa to Myanmar and they give your name a quick google search, guess what happens?

Two examples of many.

[black magick hustla]

I don't think you have to be "important." If you need to apply for a visa, residency, citizenship, etc. in some places they ask questions and do searches.

For example, if you belonged to the Communist Party in China because that's what you do to get a better job in your auto plant, and then later want to enter the U.S., you'll be asked about it. You can be denied on that basis too.

Or maybe you have to Burmese-born parents and belong to some leftist activist grouping in England, and write about the military regime in Myanmar in their press. When you apply in advance for a visa to Myanmar and they give your name a quick google search, guess what happens?

Two examples of many.

this is true. there is a whole forum about "chinese members of the "communist party"" in the web. i don't think it has to do with the bourgeosie being afraid of beign against wage slavery or some shit though. that stupid law is a remnant of the cold war and it will probably dissappear (in the same way the embargo on cuba will)-

[runequester]

In certain states (California of all places) you can be denied certain jobs if you have political views that advocate overthrowing the US government.

On immigration papers, you have to verify if you have ever been a member of "the communist party"