Questions about Anarchism and Communism

[D-MITCH777]

I have been reading about ideologies of the left and i have to questions to ask

(1) when communism reaches it's final stage or Anarchism is established and there is no government who has the authority to make new laws or punish some one any for committing a crime

(2)will there be a army

(3)even though the state will be gone will there be councils govern the same area as the where the nation-states are today

(4)what will motivate people to work any more

(5) Do you think the socialist states which exist today and former one's like USSR do you think they would dissolve there state and step down from power

[ArrowLance]

I have been reading about ideologies of the left and i have to questions to ask

(1) when communism reaches it's final stage or Anarchism is established and there is no government who has the authority to make new laws or punish some one any for committing a crime

Hopefully crime should be diminished as many crimes today are crimes against property for property. However some laws may exist or they may not, or that is they would not be necessary. It may become just for the people to pass judgement without any need for the constraints of law. So simply put the population as a whole in a most likely democratic fashion would have the authority. It is still difficult to flesh out exactlies because no real practical application of end stage communism has ever occurred, there are still many unknowns.



(2)will there be a army
No. There will be no need for an army in end stage communism as it is only achievable when there is no longer the external threat of capitalism. At least that is the ideal.



(3)even though the state will be gone will there be councils govern the same area as the where the nation-states are today
I doubt it. The role of the state is to consolidate the means of violence. There will be no need for such monopolies in final stage communism. While there may be councils to govern various things they will not be comparable to the state as their main concern would be production and distribution.



(4)what will motivate people to work any more
There are many reasons people work. Money being a rather small incentive it seems to me. But reasons include pride, will to power, social expectations, and personal gain. The last one may be the least obvious but if a person does not work there will be less social surplus, the less social surplus there is the less likely they are to get the things they want in the future.



(5) Do you think the socialist states which exist today and former one's like USSR do you think they would dissolve there state and step down from powerIt would likely be a natural process as communist states would be incompatible with end stage communism.

[Tim Cornelis]

1) Customary law + rotating juries judging aggressions against persons, IMO

2) There's no need for it.

3) No, that would be very coindicental. Popular councils would form based on practical considerations, country's borders are arbitrary. So there won't a "Belgium council".

4) Community solidarity, mutual aid. Scarce goods may also be rewarded to the most productive members.

5) No.

[D-MITCH777]

thanks for the answers

but what if some decided to try and bring back capitalism or the state wouldn't there be a need for a army then

and would there be laws so no can just take your stuff

[Sensible Socialist]

(1) when communism reaches it's final stage or Anarchism is established and there is no government who has the authority to make new laws or punish some one any for committing a crime
There will be democratic councils established and run by the people in the community the councils effect.


(2)will there be a army
No, but I would imagine there would be weapons and arms training for the average citizen, as well as higher-end arms knowledge for certain professions.


(3)even though the state will be gone will there be councils govern the same area as the where the nation-states are today

Political borders would fade away as people are united more by workers councils that focus on organization and distribution of goods, as well as developement and such.


(4)what will motivate people to work any more
People will do what the feel to be productive. Someone could go into research for science, someone else could help design a new transportation system, someone else might act, or others could do all three. For the jobs that most people don't want to do, and have a lack of people willing to do them, the sheer number of people in a community would allow the work to be divided in even amounts to the people who live in the community.


(5) Do you think the socialist states which exist today and former one's like USSR do you think they would dissolve there state and step down from power
There are no socialist states that exist today.

[syndicat]

(1) when communism reaches it's final stage or Anarchism is established and there is no government who has the authority to make new laws or punish some one any for committing a crime

There will be a governance system, and thus a government but not a state. A state isn't just a way for people to govern themselves. It is a bureaucratic apparatus with top-down hierarchies of managers over workers, officers over troops, etc. But there won't be such a system unless the state itself is destroyed and replaced by this directly democratic governance system in the revolution

this has to happen when socialism is brought about in the beginning or there will never be a real socialism.



(2)will there be a army

in the revolution this is replaced by a militia, accountable to the mass worker organizations, and with a democratic character, with elected officers etc.



(3)even though the state will be gone will there be councils govern the same area as the where the nation-states are today

yes.



(4)what will motivate people to work any more

the workers may decide to require people to work to gain consumption entitlement for personal items through their work effort. people will also be motivated to put their creative abilities to use, since workers will run the industries, and also to contribute to the wellbeing of the society.



(5) Do you think the socialist states which exist today and former one's like USSR do you think they would dissolve there state and step down from power

no. no dominating class ever gives up its power voluntarily.

[Tim Cornelis]

thanks for the answers

but what if some decided to try and bring back capitalism or the state wouldn't there be a need for a army then

and would there be laws so no can just take your stuff

Presumably and hopefully, long after the revolution and pure communism is established no one will want to bring capitalism back. At least, not many.

Those who wish to re-impose class rule will be fought back with workers' militia's, but no standing army would be needed.

Customary law develops through practice, therefore stealing, murder, rape, etc. are universally denounced and under customary law would be "illegal".

Customary law governs relations between people rather than people, so voluntary relations would not become subject to customary law. Only when a relation between people is involuntary (e.g. rape) it becomes subject to customary law and a council courts of a jury, experts, witnesses, defendant and accuser would arbitrate and reach a conclusion on what is to be done with the accused.

More information on stateless society:

www.anarchyFAQ.org (section I)