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Red Future
21st August 2011, 13:58
If the Maoists were still dominant in the PRC, do you reckon the attack on Vietnam would have still occurred...... or would it have not ?

What are peoples thoughts.I would particularly like to hear from fellow MLs and Maoists.

Azula
21st August 2011, 14:00
I think it is possible it would.

Mao did provoke the Soviet Union in 1969, though that was half-justified by a territorial dispute and by the revisionism of the USSR leadership.

Mao was also a strong ally of the Khmer Rogue.

Mao's foreign policy during the last years were pro-imperialistic under the guise of anti-imperialism.

RED DAVE
21st August 2011, 14:31
Mao's foreign policy during the last years were pro-imperialistic under the guise of anti-imperialism.And how did it happen that the Great Leader and his party became the butlers for capitalism?

RED DAVE

Gustav HK
21st August 2011, 14:35
Because he was a revisionist.

Azula
21st August 2011, 14:35
And how did it happen that the Great Leader and his party became the butlers for capitalism?

RED DAVE

The Soviet Union under it's revisionist leadership was actually threatening to the People's Republic.

Comrade1
21st August 2011, 14:52
The Soviet Union under it's revisionist leadership was actually threatening to the People's Republic.
Mao tendened to stick with the only socialist state that was still true to Marxism-Leninism which was Albania. But Mao himself became a revisionist and class collaberator in the 70's

Azula
21st August 2011, 14:56
Yes for revisionism, but in the national sense Mao was not a class-collaborator. The Cultural Revolution if anything is a testament to that.

Gustav HK
21st August 2011, 15:02
He was a class-collaborator and a revisionist long before the 70´ies. The theory of New Democracy, if anything, is a testament to that.

Gustav HK
21st August 2011, 15:03
He was a class-collaborator and a revisionist long before the 70´ies. The theory of New Democracy, if anything, is a testament to that.

Sperm-Doll Setsuna
21st August 2011, 15:05
Yes for revisionism, but in the national sense Mao was not a class-collaborator. The Cultural Revolution if anything is a testament to that.

He was not? How does New Democracy and The Bloc of Four Classes fit into that?

milk
22nd August 2011, 07:54
He was a class-collaborator and a revisionist long before the 70´ies. The theory of New Democracy, if anything, is a testament to that.

New Democracy was the Chinese approximation of what the Soviet Union had with the post-WWII People's Democracies in eastern Europe, which would temporarily maintain capitalism under Soviet guidance. It was soon redefined, however, in line with the Soviet Union re-jigging the nature of the People's Democracies, from being progressive anti-fascist coalitions, to being fundamentally heading towards socialism, so long as they followed the trail earlier blazed by Stalin in the USSR. The CPSU declared its earlier position as being 'reformist twaddle.'

RED DAVE
23rd August 2011, 15:57
New Democracy was the Chinese approximation of what the Soviet Union had with the post-WWII People's Democracies in eastern Europe, which would temporarily maintain capitalism under Soviet guidance. It was soon redefined, however, in line with the Soviet Union re-jigging the nature of the People's Democracies, from being progressive anti-fascist coalitions, to being fundamentally heading towards socialism, so long as they followed the trail earlier blazed by Stalin in the USSR. The CPSU declared its earlier position as being 'reformist twaddle.'But the whole notion of New Democracy or People's Democracy was twaddle.

Either we are dealing with working class ruled societies, socialism, or some other class is running the show and exploiting the working class: the bourgeoisie itself or some portion of the petit-bourgeoisie standing in for the bourgeoisie until conditions became ripe for full capitalism.

RED DAVE

ModelHomeInvasion
23rd August 2011, 16:07
Mao tendened to stick with the only socialist state that was still true to Marxism-Leninism which was Albania. But Mao himself became a revisionist and class collaberator in the 70's
"Hoxhaists" :laugh:

Obs
23rd August 2011, 17:02
"Hoxhaists" :laugh:
Dude, Hoxhaists (on this site, at least) tend to know what they're talking about.

milk
23rd August 2011, 20:03
But the whole notion of New Democracy or People's Democracy was twaddle.

Either we are dealing with working class ruled societies, socialism, or some other class is running the show and exploiting the working class: the bourgeoisie itself or some portion of the petit-bourgeoisie standing in for the bourgeoisie until conditions became ripe for full capitalism.

RED DAVE

I was pointing out where New Democracy came from, how Stalinist it was, and how its defining characteristics could be changed so quickly (falling in line with Moscow).

Have you just assumed that because I have talked about a position, it means that I support it?

ModelHomeInvasion
25th August 2011, 13:03
Dude, Hoxhaists (on this site, at least) tend to know what they're talking about.
"policy of the dollar" :laugh: