Stupidity of fascists

[Game Girl]

Okay. So I got into a "debate with this guy on youtube....Then this happens. (see attatchment)

Hahahaha wow.

[Azula]

Nowadays, most Fascists have either very low intelligence or are socially disabled.

One just needs to throw a casual look at their communities.

[ColonelCossack]

grammar nazi... literally.

[Susurrus]

Hate to be picky, but that's technically not a fascist, most likely a conservative, possibly a neo-nazi.

[Game Girl]

Hate to be picky, but that's technically not a fascist, most likely a conservative, possibly a neo-nazi.

My bad. Sorry. I'll fix that. lol

EDIT: I don't think I can edit the title. Fail. D:

[ВАЛТЕР]

No sense in arguing with people like that, you cannot change their mind. The only solution for shitheads like that is locking them up so they don't infect the youth with such ridiculous concepts.

[Aspiring Humanist]

Hate to be picky, but that's technically not a fascist...possibly a neo-nazi.
Synonyms

[Tim Finnegan]

Synonyms
Jobbik begs to disagree.

[Susurrus]

Synonyms

no, fascists have actual economic and political theories, and some types are non-racist. neo-nazis only have racism as their theory.

[Ocean Seal]

Okay. So I got into a "debate with this guy on youtube....Then this happens.
Hahahaha wow.
What are you doing debating on youtube? Intelligence does not win youtube debates, so they're practically useless.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

Nowadays, most Fascists have either very low intelligence or are socially disabled.

One just needs to throw a casual look at their communities.
Wow am I the only one that found this pretty insulting? Considering these communities are the communities we should be getting to join the movement. It's like when people call white people rednecks, just don't.

[Leftsolidarity]

Wow am I the only one that found this pretty insulting? Considering these communities are the communities we should be getting to join the movement. It's like when people call white people rednecks, just don't.

Almost everything Azula types is insulting. Not quite sure why she's on this board to be honest.

But to the topic, what is with all this 'white genocide' talk?

[ВАЛТЕР]

Nowadays, most Fascists have either very low intelligence or are socially disabled.

One just needs to throw a casual look at their communities.


They are generally misguided working class youth for the most part. Precisely because they are disadvantaged is why we should do everything in our power to help them and steer them away from this self destructive path.

The hardcore fascists who cannot be swayed need to be isolated to prevent the spread of their damaging ideals.

[Madslatter]

Nowadays, most Fascists have either very low intelligence or are socially disabled.

One just needs to throw a casual look at their communities.
If your using the term 'communities' to refer to the social scene of fascist groups, then I see where your coming from. If your using it to refer to the working class neighborhoods most fascists grew up in: fuck off.

[Tim Finnegan]

They are generally misguided working class youth for the most part.
Actually, I'm not so sure of that. You're stereotypical white power skinhead boot boy is, sure, but a lot of the "respectable fascists", BNP types and that, are from a middle class background, petty bourgeoisie and professional. The BNP has more members in Surrey than in Greater Birmingham (http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=16518), ferchrissake.

[Leftsolidarity]

Actually, I'm not so sure of that. You're stereotypical white power skinhead boot boy is, sure, but a lot of the "respectable fascists", BNP types and that, are from a middle class background, petty bourgeoisie and professional. The BNP has more members in Surrey than in Greater Birmingham (http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=16518), ferchrissake.

But I think in the states it is more of a working class problem. Sure you have your upper-class racists but they are no neo-nazis, just hardcore conservatives.

[CommunityBeliever]

I could be wrong about this but isn't there a difference between "immigration" and "genocide"? Why do these racists use them like they mean the same thing?

[Azula]

If your using the term 'communities' to refer to the social scene of fascist groups, then I see where your coming from. If your using it to refer to the working class neighborhoods most fascists grew up in: fuck off.

I mean their internet communities.

[Ocean Seal]

I could be wrong about this but isn't there a difference between "immigration" and "genocide"? Why do these racists use them like they mean the same thing?
Because they exaggerate to ridiculous proportions. They believe that immigration is white genocide because it brings about race-mixing therefore destroying the white "race" as race-mixing causes the birth of mixed-race people who are no longer white enough for them, therefore decreasing the number of "white people" who are born. Now if this is as painful for you to read as it was for me to write, then you're doing it right. Basically its idiocy and they like to victimize themselves. And they use the terms opportunistically, and to bring more attention to their illegitimate cause.

[ВАЛТЕР]

Actually, I'm not so sure of that. You're stereotypical white power skinhead boot boy is, sure, but a lot of the "respectable fascists", BNP types and that, are from a middle class background, petty bourgeoisie and professional. The BNP has more members in Surrey than in Greater Birmingham, ferchrissake.

I was referring to those stereotypical skinheads. They however are very much so run by the petty-bourgeoisie and upper class racists.

[Leftsolidarity]

I was referring to those stereotypical skinheads.

I would like to clear this up right now. Skinheads =/= Boneheads

[ВАЛТЕР]

I would like to clear this up right now. Skinheads =/= Boneheads

I know this, I know about SHARP and what not.

However, the Boneheads have stained the name of all skinheads. The first thing I think of when I hear the term "skinhead" is "Neo-Nazi" even though I know better the word is immediately associated with it almost instinctively and I know I am not the only one who does this.

[Kornilios Sunshine]

Ha! Neonazi got pwned!

[Game Girl]

Because they exaggerate to ridiculous proportions. They believe that immigration is white genocide because it brings about race-mixing therefore destroying the white "race" as race-mixing causes the birth of mixed-race people who are no longer white enough for them, therefore decreasing the number of "white people" who are born. Now if this is as painful for you to read as it was for me to write, then you're doing it right. Basically its idiocy and they like to victimize themselves. And they use the terms opportunistically, and to bring more attention to their illegitimate cause.

I guess someone forgot to tell them that if they don't like race mixing, then don't marry a non-white. SIMPLES!

[electro_fan]

i do think though that azula has a point here.

fascists do make a point of recruiting among the vulnerable, people who have problems (and i mean serious problems) the very young and people who for some reason do not have much of a social support structure, an incredibly predatory recruitment strategy.

the fascist cadre however know exactly what they're doing

[Comrade1]

The person you are arguing with seems like someone who is not aware that this entire country is based on immigrants or that the "Founding fathers" were immagrants...

[Xenophiliac]

Because they exaggerate to ridiculous proportions. They believe that immigration is white genocide because it brings about race-mixing therefore destroying the white "race" as race-mixing causes the birth of mixed-race people who are no longer white enough for them, therefore decreasing the number of "white people" who are born. Now if this is as painful for you to read as it was for me to write, then you're doing it right. Basically its idiocy and they like to victimize themselves. And they use the terms opportunistically, and to bring more attention to their illegitimate cause.

The Asshats over on Stormfront like to use the following definition of genocide.




Here is the United Nations Convention on Genocide. Take note that the United States and its allies are guilty by its definition of gencide against the German people both in the Reich and to the east during and after World War II.

There is a lesser-known Covenant on Social, Economic, and Cultural rights.


Article 1
1. All peoples have the right of self-determination. By virtue of that right they freely determine their political status and freely pursue their economic, social and cultural development.

Article 2

In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:

· (a) Killing members of the group;
· (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
· (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
· (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
· (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

I dont know whether there is international consensus regarding the applicability of these conventions to white societies. Probably not. Poplation displacement by force or coercion should also be a part of the definition of genocide.

[electro_fan]

that's utter nonsense. by "conditions of life" it must mean things such as not being able to buy food in shops because of your race, curfews, removal from the economy and the employment market (ie by not being allowed to work in any but the most menial jobs or being allowed to own a business) and then the denial of benefits, wanton home demolitions, being forced to wear identifying clothing, etc etc etc.

i don't see how "conditions of life" such as these apply to immigration. they don't. but to them it's more a propaganda thing and not particularly something most of them probably believe anyway.

[Lirwin2]

I literally had a fascist on youtube tell me that if the jews didn't exist, hitler never would have come to power. Therefore, Jews were at fault for the holocaust. Seriously. I think brain damage is a prerequisite for becoming a fascist.

[ColonelCossack]

If your using the term 'communities' to refer to the social scene of fascist groups, then I see where your coming from. If your using it to refer to the working class neighborhoods most fascists grew up in: fuck off.

Maybe they're referring to internet communities, ie... scumfront.