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Sinister Cultural Marxist
19th August 2011, 00:36
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-14584095


Chile recognises 9,800 more victims of Pinochet's rule

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/54686000/jpg/_54686316_pinochet.jpg Gen Pinochet ruled Chile for 17 years from 1973 to 1990
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A Chilean commission investigating human rights abuses under the former military leader Gen Augusto Pinochet says there are many more victims than previously documented.
Commission director Maria Luisa Sepulveda said they had identified another 9,800 people who had been held as political prisoners and tortured.
The new figures bring the total of recognised victims to 40,018.
The survivors will get lifetime pensions of about $260 (£157) a month.
An earlier report by the commission recognised 27,153 people who suffered human rights violations under military rule.
The official number of those killed or forcibly disappeared now stands at 3,065.
'Peace and reconciliation'
Ms Sepulveda said the commission had examined 32,000 new claims of human rights abuses over the past 18 months.
She said of those, 9,800 were found to fulfil the commission's criteria.
In order to be officially recognised as victims, people had to have been:


Detained and/or tortured for political reasons by agents of the state or people at its service
Victims of forced disappearances or been executed for political reasons by agents of the state or people at its service
Been kidnapped or been the victims of assassination attempts for political reasons

Furthermore, all the cases had to have happened between 11 September 1973 and 10 March 1990, when Gen Pinochet was in power.
The BBC's Gideon Long in Santiago said Ms Sepulveda did not give details of the kind of abuses the victims had suffered, nor did she release the names of the victims.
The report was presented to Chilean President Sebastian Pinera at a ceremony in the presidential palace.
Justice Minister Teodoro Ribera said the document would contribute to peace and reconciliation in Chile.


Something to think about whenever someone tells you about the "evils of Communism". It is good that the history books are being tied more closely to reality.

Iron Felix
19th August 2011, 21:16
A total of 40,000? Is this a joke? Perhaps 400,000. Videla, Somoza, Stroessner, Banzer, Batisa, Branco, Monnt, Noriega, Cerezo, Cordova, the Duvaliers, Martinez, all these Latin American dictators either installed or kept in power by killed millions of innocent people, using Western, mostly American, guns, with the CIA's huge help. Yet no one remembers that. We only remember the Stalins and the Maos.

RadioRaheem84
19th August 2011, 21:30
I knew it was never that bullshit 3000 figure! I mean the Reconciliation Report was just a huge cover up.

Red Commissar
23rd August 2011, 08:28
I knew it was never that bullshit 3000 figure! I mean the Reconciliation Report was just a huge cover up.

If we are to believe the article, the ~3,000 figure represents direct murders and deaths. This particular figure refers to the victims of repression in some form- being detained as political prisoners and/or tortured.

What I find interesting is that the article also says that the earlier report stood at 27,153- more and more have been added to that figure.

My question is with this many years after the fall of Pinochet, why are these numbers so slow to come in? Much less why were the people previously discounted as victims of human rights violations, and later counted?

I still think the death tally of 3,065 is too low though. Just within the short span of the coup and the aftermath, the military easily killed thousands, and along side with subsequent political hits and Operation Condor, that tally looks awfully low. I guess they're only going by who they can "identify" as dead- if someone left no trace of themselves or anyone who could show that they were definitely killed when they "disappeared", the commission doesn't count them.

Ismail
23rd August 2011, 13:10
My question is with this many years after the fall of Pinochet, why are these numbers so slow to come in? Much less why were the people previously discounted as victims of human rights violations, and later counted?In Spain there are still issues about the number of deaths caused by the Francoists during the civil war. Reactionaries in Spain denounce, slander, and even in some cases intimidate judges, authors, writers, journalists, and others who want more research into the numbers.

Keep in mind that both Spain and Chile ended their reactionary regimes with calls for "national reconciliation." A part of this involved not "reopening the wounds of the past" in order to appease said reactionaries.

tom1992
25th August 2011, 07:05
The worst thing is that people still support Pinochet, generally rich or blind poor people. Note that people that follow Pinochet are one of the worst types of humans you can find.
It is victims of torture not of murder...But the number 3000 is very small...I do not believe it. But oh well the "left wing" (in reality they are pigs) goverment never hated Pinochet, they loved him they love the neoliberal system...When they were in power they said that Pinochet will be in jail...The bastard died without a jail sentence .