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Dasein
18th August 2011, 12:07
The Illusion of Free Will, an excerpt from The Moral Landscape by Sam Harris. Dr. Harris holds a degree in philosophy from Stanford University and a Ph.D. in neuroscience from UCLA.

Brains allow organisms to alter their behavior and internal states in response to changes in the environment. The evolution of these structures, tending toward increased size and complexity, has led to vast differences in how the earth's species live.
The human brain responds to information coming from several domains: from the external world, from internal states of the body, and, increasingly, from a sphere of meaning--which includes spoken and written language, social cues, cultural norms, rituals of interaction, assumptions about the rationality of others, judgments of taste and style, etc. Generally, these domains seem unified in our experience: You spot your best friend standing on the street corner looking strangely disheveled. You recognize that she is crying and frantically dialing her cell phone. Did someone assault her? You rush to her side, feeling an acute desire to help. Your "self" seems to stand at the intersection of these lines of input and output. From this point of view, you tend to feel that you are the source of your own thoughts and actions. You decide what to do and not to do. You seem to be an agent acting of your own free will. As we will see, however, this point of view cannot be reconciled with what we know about the human brain.
We are conscious of only a tiny fraction of the information that our brains process in each moment. While we continually notice changes in our experience--in thought, mood, perception, behavior, etc.--we are utterly unaware of the neural events that produce these changes. In fact, by merely glancing at your face or listening to your tone of voice, others are often more aware of your internal states and motivations than you are. And yet most of us still feel that we are the authors of our own thoughts and actions.
All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion. For instance, the physiologist Benjamin Libet famously demonstrated that activity in the brain's motor regions can be detected some 350 milliseconds before a person feels that he has decided to move. Another lab recently used fMRI data to show that some "conscious" decisions can be predicated up to 10 seconds before they enter awareness (long before the preparatory motor activity detected by Libet). Clearly, findings of this kind are difficult to reconcile with the sense that one is the conscious source of one's actions. Notice that distinction between "higher" and "lower" systems in the brain gets us nowhere: for I no more initiate events in executive regions of my prefrontal cortex than I cause the creaturely outbursts of my limbic system. The truth seems inescapable: I, as the subject of my experience, cannot know what I will next think or do until a thought or intention arises; and thoughts and intentions are caused by physical events and mental stirrings of which I am not aware.
Many scientists and philosophers realized that free will could not be squared with out growing understanding of the physical world. Nevertheless, many still deny this fact. The biologist Martin Heisenberg recently observed that some fundamental processes in the brain, like the opening and closing of ion channels and the release of synaptic vesicles, occur at random, and cannot, therefore, be determined by environmental stimuli. Thus, much of our behavior can be considered "self-generated," and therein, he imagines, lies a basis for free will. But "self-generated" in this sense means only that these events originate in the brain. The same can be said for the brain states of a chicken.
If I were to learn that my decision to have a third cup of coffee this morning was due to a random release of neurotransmitters, how could the indeterminacy of the initiating event count as the free exercise of my will? Such indeterminacy, if it were generally effective throughout the brain, would obliterate any semblance of human agency. Imagine what your life would be like if all you actions, intentions, beliefs, and desires were "self-generated" in this way: you would scarcely seem to have a mind at all. You would live as one blown about by an internal wind. Actions, intentions, beliefs, and desires are the sorts of things that can exist only in a system that is significantly constrained by patterns behavior and the laws of stimulus-response. In fact, the possibility of reasoning with other human beings--or, indeed, of finding their behaviors and utterances comprehensible at all--depends on the assumption that their thoughts and actions will obediently ride the rails of a shared reality. In the limit, Heisenberg's "self-generated" mental events would amount to utter madness.
The problem is that no account of causality leaves room for free will. Thoughts, moods, and desires of every sort simply spring into view--and move us, or fail to move us, for reasons that are, from a subjective point of view, perfectly inscrutable. Why did I use the term"inscrutable" in the previous sentence? I must confess that I do not know. Was I free to do otherwise? What could such a claim possibly mean? Why, after all, didn't the word "opaque" come to mind? Well, it just didn't--and now that it vies for a place on this page, I find that I am still partial to my original choice. Am I free with respect to this preference? Am I free to feel that "opaque" is the better word, when I just do not feel that it is the better word? Am I free to change my mind? Of course not. It can only change me.
It means nothing to say that a person would have done otherwise had he chosen to do otherwise, because a person's "choices" merely appear in his mental stream as though sprung from the void. In this sense, each of us is like a phenomenological glockenspiel played by an unseen hand. From the perspective of your conscious mind, you are no more responsible for the next thing you think (and therefore do) than you are for the fact that you were born into this world.
Our belief in free will arises from our moment-to-moment ignorance of specific prior causes. The phrase "free will" describes what is feels like to be identified with the content of each thought as it arises in consciousness. Trains of thought like, "What should I get my daughter for her birthday? I know, I'll take her to a pet store and have her pick out some tropical fish," convey the apparent reality of choices, freely made. But from a deeper perspective (speaking both subjectively and objectively), thoughts simply arise (what else could they do?) unauthored and yet author to our actions.




As Daniel Dennett has pointed out, many people confuse determinism with fatalism. This give rise to questions like, "If everything is determined, why should I do anything? Why not just sit back and see what happens?" But the fact that out choices depend on prior causes does not mean that they do not matter. If I had not decided to write this book, it wouldn't have written itself. My choice to write it was unquestionably the primary cause of its coming into beings. Decisions, intentions, efforts, goals, willpower, etc., are causal states of the brain, leading to specific behaviors, and behaviors lead to outcomes in the world. Human choice, therefore, is as important as fanciers of free will believe. And to "just sit back and see what happens" is itself a choice that will produce its own consequences. It is also extremely difficult to do: just try staying in bed all day waiting for something to happen; you will find yourself assailed by the impulse to get up and do something, which will require increasingly heroic efforts to resist.
Of course, there is a distinction between voluntary and involuntary actions, but it does nothing to support the common idea of free will (nor does it depend upon it). The former are associated with felt intentions (desires, goals, expectations, etc.) while the latter are not. All of the conventional distinctions we like to make between degrees of intent--from the bizarre neurological complaint of alien hand syndrome to the premeditated actions of a sniper--can be maintained: for they simply describe what else was arising in the mind at the time an action occurred. A voluntary action is accompanied by the felt intention to carry it out, while an involuntary action isn't. Where our intentions themselves com from, however, and what determines their character in every instant, remains perfectly mysterious in subjective terms. Our sense of free will arises from a failure to appreciate this fact: we do not know what we will intend to do until the intention itself arises. To see this is to realize that you are not the author of your thoughts and actions in the way that people generally suppose. This insight does not make social and political freedom any less important, however. The freedom to do what one intends, and not to do otherwise, is no less valuable than it ever was.

PopulistPower
18th August 2011, 20:18
The only reason we have such odd views of free will in the first place is because our ideas of the self are based on a monotheistic conception of the self as some Cartesian homunculus. As soon as one begins separating their 'self' from one's brain, its neural connections, and one's relations to other objects in the environment, one has already restricted what the self is to something only the religious could believe in. Taken as whole organisms interacting with complex environments, we still exist, and, as the author admits, can still have lives as meaningful as before we began pontificating whether free will was real or not.

W1N5T0N
18th August 2011, 20:38
In my opinion, there is free will to the extent as how other peoples choices influence our choices, or warp their outcome. Its all intertwined...

Philosopher Jay
18th August 2011, 23:56
The author, although he is not wrong, speaks, perhaps, too abstractly about free will.

The stoics used the idea of "free will" to blame people for their own miseries. After all, they argued, you can end your misery anytime you want to by committing suicide. The Christians used the term "free will" to get their God off the hook for the evils in the world. God gave you free will and you chose your miseries and evils, not the omnipotent one.

"Free will," if it means anything at all means the choice people make between positive alternatives. If I am at a party and both Angelina Jolie and Julia Roberts suggest they want to sleep with me, it is a free choice and an exercise of my free will in determining which one I will sleep with. One might always postulate that hidden factors in my DNA or events in my childhood predetermined my choice, but for me it seems like a free choice and that is good enough. Now, if Brad Pitt says he will kill me if I sleep with Angelina, the choice is not so free.

Communists are certainly in favor of free choices and believe in free will when free choice is really free choice without hidden agendas promoting capitalist slavery.

Rafiq
19th August 2011, 02:54
Free will is a bourgeois concept, used to tell the masses it's their fault that they're poor because they didn't use their 'free will' correctly.

Kronsteen
19th August 2011, 03:58
Free will is a bourgeois concept, used to tell the masses it's their fault that they're poor because they didn't use their 'free will' correctly.

There is a bourgeois concept of free will - as transgression, offence, breaking laws, disobedience, and indeed evil. There is a different bourgeois concept of free will as self-determination and strengh of will against both the physical world and the desires of others.

That doesn't mean there can't be other concepts of free will - ones which don't think of it either as breaking the natural order, or stamping down on other people.

Rafiq
19th August 2011, 04:11
That doesn't mean there cannot be other concepts, but modern scientific analysis of the brain can.

Free choice is limited to the surroundings that present themselves to you, and therefore free will is a stupid idea. Like Nietzche said, and a user here pointed out, a "will' is something you cannot isolate and decide whether it's free or not. Our brains are like computers playing chess. Accept a lot more advanced.

Ose
19th August 2011, 05:13
The only reason we have such odd views of free will in the first place is because our ideas of the self are based on a monotheistic conception of the self as some Cartesian homunculus. As soon as one begins separating their 'self' from one's brain, its neural connections, and one's relations to other objects in the environment, one has already restricted what the self is to something only the religious could believe in.

One might always postulate that hidden factors in my DNA or events in my childhood predetermined my choice, but for me it seems like a free choice and that is good enough.
Yes. The self is merely an abstraction, the synthetic totality of the mental events which supervene on one's neural processes. Free will cannot exist if our definition of it is based on the self as a concrete entity possessing of causal power. However, the 'illusion' of free will (i.e. the unknowability of the future with regard to human actions), to all intents and purposes, is free will.

The Vegan Marxist
20th August 2011, 05:48
In my opinion, there is free will to the extent as how other peoples choices influence our choices, or warp their outcome. Its all intertwined...

:confused:

So you're claiming that free-will exists on a socially-conditioned basis? We do not choose our choices. We may have choices in life, but that doesn't then mean free-will exists.

In fact, most acts we make in life are done so through our unconscious. And rightfully so, or else you'd probably be dead in a car wreck, because you allowed yourself to go through a conscious decision of whether or not you should hit the breaks.

Thirsty Crow
21st August 2011, 00:10
That doesn't mean there cannot be other concepts, but modern scientific analysis of the brain can.

Free choice is limited to the surroundings that present themselves to you, and therefore free will is a stupid idea. Like Nietzche said, and a user here pointed out, a "will' is something you cannot isolate and decide whether it's free or not. Our brains are like computers playing chess. Accept a lot more advanced.
The problem here is in your interpretation of "freedom".
The most sensible interpretation of the concept of free will refers to the ability of people to choose, as PhilosopherJay pointed out, between alternatives, without direct interference from other people, which then becomes the basis for holding those people responsible for an action of theirs.

As you can see, there could be no corrective social mechanism for disruptive behaviour, such as a premeditated murder, and that does not only apply to the social formation corresponding to the capitalist mode of production, but rather to any kind of mode of production, communism included. It is necessary to distinguish specific occurences (for example, the biological brain processes processes) which enable a person to be held responsible for her actions, laying the groundwork for possible corrective social mechanisms designed to minimize or prevent the damage from specific choices.
Of course, I don't think I have to mention that this does not stand in opposition to what I think about a good deal of crimes in contemporary: that people do not have an infinite range of choices, all of them very nice, but rather that most of the people are faced with harsh social conditions, regardless of their choice, which means that this antagonistic for of society is predicated on one group's domination, effective restriction and diminishing of freedom, over another group (a heterogenous group, but loosely unified by similar conditions of existence).
This also holds with what I view as the only way of the before mentioned corrective social mechanisms to work: rehabilitation.

That's why I don't think your simplistic notion of the concept as a "bourgeois concept" is really useful (apart from the fact that a version of it is used to systematically mistify facts of social domination and inequality).

Kronsteen
21st August 2011, 05:00
Our brains are like computers playing chess. Accept a lot more advanced.

First, go and look up the difference between 'Accept' and 'Except'.

After that, go and read some neurology written after 1950.

Here are some neurology blogs I read, to get you started:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/neurophilosophy
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/category/frontal-cortex/
http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/
http://schwitzsplinters.blogspot.com/
http://frontierpsychiatrist.co.uk/
http://mindhacks.com/

Islamosocialist
24th August 2011, 04:07
To me, free will is our ability to make choices.

Even something as simple as choosing... do I wear my hairs straight today, or let them curl? To me, that's free will. And every little choice we make can have a big impact on our lives--up to and including saving or ending them.

The closest I ever came to dying during the war was waiting in line one day for water and the sniper... where did he come from? We had blankets strung between the buildings, there was no line for him to see. But pop... crack... whistle... ... pop... crack... whistle...

And before I realized what was happening, I felt the tickle of rock and dust hitting my leg from where the bullet impacted beside me. And then I ran.

And I keep playing over and over in my head...

How many choices I made that day, that week, that year... that led to me being just enough centimeters away?

That's free will.

It's one of those things that is best described by, I think I was Shakespeare? "Nothing is either good nor bad, thinking makes it so." But I quote it wrong, I'm sure.

rland
27th August 2011, 21:12
I feel my 'free will' to be ochestrated as well as an ochestra...

People may allow themselves as reactors do; our many synapse reactions occur due to physical sense stimuli, as well as our perceptive cognition of them. The streets are a play, unpracticed to an extent, yet the people that walk on them are on repeat; its the same old, daily play, generation after generation, with, seemingly, only minor differences. However, these differences seem to be thickening. Behaviours thought as art are bold, yet often hollow, as they are usually a copy of a previous attraction to what our experiences make us familiar to, or what we cognitively calculate to be beneficial. They are on the streets, but their source is in their minds, which cannot be seen. Beyond the eyes is an elaborate and powerful self, but due to a lack of stimulation, I think the majority are lying dormant. This is why psychological experimentation can be out of touch with the potential of the human mind. Boundaries between identitis and cultures create mental boundaries between relations and association, which distinguishes behaviour depending on the stimuli present, even if it is similar. Two people you know will give you a different reaction to them, even if they say the same thing, using the same tone of voice. Association plays a large role in behaviour, and this is only so because of the brains ability to transport miniscule, irrelevant information, to certain areas, in order for the correctly calculated reaction to take place. But those informations become coordinated, conditioned and continue to correspond because of the self, which is thus created from experimental intake of information from environment play. The mind, and free will, either become encouraged and motivated and tolerant enough to continue their enquiring nature, or strangled. The strangling is not a choice, it is put upon us by our environment. If our environment no longer stimulates our motivation, or give us encouragement via benefit to enquire, then the nature given to us by birth deteriorates and lies dormant. The majority of people, even in democracy, are suffering due to their lack of self-priority, of which is never given to them. They have free will, but not choice of how to use it. Lifestyle choice is an illusion.

jke
15th September 2011, 11:24
I don't find even a much weaker notion of free will convincing. 'Choice' is always an illusion.

"Free will" and it's corollary, "moral responsibility", seem incompatible with communism (with communism here meaning a stateless, classless society; and as revolutionary practice). Everything has a cause, including 'immoral' acts. If we morally blame individuals and groups of individuals for their mistakes and immoral acts, then our attention is drawn away from the material causes. We find individuals abhorrent, rather that the institutions which caused those individuals to act abhorrently. Thus, attention is drawn away from the causes which we should be rebelling against, undermining our efforts.

Meridian
17th September 2011, 23:20
We find individuals abhorrent, rather that the institutions which caused those individuals to act abhorrently. Thus, attention is drawn away from the causes which we should be rebelling against, undermining our efforts.
You have a regression problem here. If individuals should be free of charge due to their choices not really being "choices" (as far as you can see), then surely so should institutions, because they too have come to be due to other "causal mechanisms".

You say the causes we should be rebelling against are those institutions, but you are simply moving your entire problem one step down the line.

By the way, what I made here is is not an argument against rebelling against institutions, this is an argument against absolving individuals of blame in all cases by philosophical reasoning.

jke
21st September 2011, 10:01
You have a regression problem here. If individuals should be free of charge due to their choices not really being "choices" (as far as you can see), then surely so should institutions, because they too have come to be due to other "causal mechanisms".

You say the causes we should be rebelling against are those institutions, but you are simply moving your entire problem one step down the line.Theoretically there might be a regression problem.
But if we're considering the social world, prevailing human behaviour is the end result of a complex causal chain. We could trace causes for current human behaviour back to the prehistoric times; or we could look at the most recent, modifiable causes. I think the concentrating on the latter causes is more appropriate.


By the way, what I made here is is not an argument against rebelling against institutions, this is an argument against absolving individuals of blame in all cases by philosophical reasoning.We can be blamed for our actions if and only if we have choice. An argument is presented in the original post which shows that choice is an illusion. If the argument is correct (yes, it might be wrong), then we can't be blamed for our actions.

There, philosophical reasoning against moral blame. Sure, I might get the regression problem which means that if I was to be philosophically consistent, I couldn't blame institutions either. But (it seems wise to quote Marx around here), "the philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it."