Good ol' fashioned Opinion Poll

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If you had to (gun to your head, nuts in a vice, whatever) vote in a General Election in England tommorrow, which of the parties listed would get your vote?

*I know a lot of you would not vote for any or vote at all, anarachists in particular, but for the sake of this poll, pretend you have no choice*

Cons, BNP, UKIP etc excluded for obvious reasons.
Labour, Lib Dems included because, on a purely technical level, they considered on the left of the political spectrum.

[Tommy4ever]

I'm in Scotland, but put TUSC.

They didn't stand in the recent Scottish election, but intend to stand in the local elections in May 2012, so I may well vote for them then.

[Susurrus]

I shouldn't think that anarchists don't vote, due to the fact that they should want to better the situation of the working class.

[Sentinel]

If I lived in those parts, I would in the last elections have voted for the Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition, which contains the Socialist Party of England and Wales (CWI). Voted accordingly in this poll.

[Cencus]

I vote for banging the heads of the 500(slight exageration) leftist parties in the UK together til they could come up with some sort a popular front for elections. If they got it together there might actually be a chance of beating the BNP at the ballot box.

[A Revolutionary Tool]

I put Worker's Revolutionary Party because it sounds cool :cool:

[o well this is ok I guess]

The Tory Party

Who else would be holding a gun to my head?

[Tim Finnegan]

I currently live, and am moving to, areas where it tends to go to either Labour or the SNP, and I really couldn't care which of them got it, so if it was possible I'd vote for the Greens or TUSC just to put in another vote for something different, and maybe even because they have half a shot in the Scottish and local elections. I'd rather spoil my ballot than vote for the fringe sects, though.


I put Worker's Revolutionary Party because it sounds cool :cool:
Picture every stereotype of the militant left that you have ever encountered. Even if they're completely baseless, even if they don't make sense, even if they actively contradict each other! That is the Workers' Revolutionary Party. :bored:

[Lenina Rosenweg]

For those of us who don't live in the UK a bit more explanation might be helpful
Which of the following parties would you vote for?
Labour Party

nope, nyet, nein, non. A US Labor Party would be good. Driving on the wrong side of the road, "ou" instead of "o" and London is only a few hours from Amsterdam. I wish I was a Brit!

Liberal Democrats

No way, Jose

Green Party of England and Wales

Wouldn't join, maybe vote for? I have voted for individual Green candidates in the US. How left are the UK Greens? I may vote for them in a local election.

Respect Party

Didn't they implode? Are they really the SWP?

Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition

Yes, oui, ja, da tovarish!

Socialist Alternative

Which one? SA is the US CWI and the Australian SWP franchise.

Communist Party of Britain

Probably not but if they want to send me free literature that's fine. As long as Mike McNair or Karl Kautsky doesn't knock at my door, its all good.

Socialist Labour Party

Don't know anything about them. Tony Scargill's group?

Alliance for Green Socialism

Don't know much about them. Right Greens?

Worker's Revolutionary Party

Cool name,although a bit cliche. Are they Maoist?

[Tifosi]

If they got it together there might actually be a chance of beating the BNP at the ballot box.

This is the main objective people! :glare:

[Tommy4ever]

Some up of parties listed:

Labour Party - one of the two main parties in Britain, formely social democrats they are now basically a liberal party that supports neo-liberal economics, nanny statism and foriegn interventionism (or atleast they used to).

Lib Dems - for awhile people thought they were more left than Labour, their voters are basically middle class liberals who don't want to vote for Labour. For reasons power hunger they entered into a coalition with the Tories (the main right wing party) that was very popular with Tory supporters but extremely unpopular with Lib Dem supporters. Scotland (especially the Highlands and Islands) is a traditional Liberal stronghold and in the Scottish elections in May they lost just over half their votes and 12 out 17 seats in the Scottish Parliament. In the English local elections at the same time they did slightly better - losing just under half of their vote, councillors and councils.

Greens - They got their first ever seat in the 2010 General elections. Your usual sort of soft left Green. More socialist than any other party of any note, but not left enough to deserve our attention.

Respect - they did basically die, but some ex-members continue to fight random elections under the name - George Galloway recently tried and failed (narrowly) to get into the Scottish Parliament as a Respect candidate.

TUSC - a pretty new group consisting of an assortment of leftist parties - SPEW in England and Wales and Solidarity in Scotland are the biggest parties, SWP and other smaller parties have been involved as have some trade unionists. The latest attempt at some sort of left unity. They got 15,000 votes in the 2010 general election (around 1% in each seat they contested) so pretty damn small.

Socialist Alternative - I didn't know what this was, so I googled it and it says its SPEW?

CPB - You know the score, an old CP with few supporters.

SLP - Yeah.

Alliance for Green Socialism - Again, I'd never heard of them. Turns out they are some Leeds based eco-socialists. Whilst the CPB got 950 votes in the last general election, they got 1,580. So I guess they dwarf Communist Party.

Workers' Revolutionary Party - Already been mentioned. Bad.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

Labour Party.

Not because I support them, but because the Con-Dem government is currently not only hostile to the working class (As New Labour was/is), but is also massively inept. I don't think George Osbourne knows what an interest rate is, tbh.

And also that answer is in the context of this thread. If there were an election tomorrow it would be pointless, as a revolutionary, to vote for a dead horse like TUSC, because the point of revolutionaries fighting bourgeois elections is not that we're realistically going to win, but that we can use it for educational and agitation purposes, to raise our profile amongst the working class. If there were an election tomorrow we'd not be able to do that and TUSC would probably get 10,000 votes or so nationwide.

[Vladimir Innit Lenin]

So yeah, if the question was changed to 'an election in a month/half a year/a year', i'd obviously not choose Miliwank's band of Blue Labour arseholes.

[Cencus]

This is the main objective people! :glare:

Well if the combined efforts of all the left can't get more folks to vote for em than the BNP then we really are in trouble. We aint gonna get any power of substance via the ballot box, all we can use it for is a way to spread our ideas and discredit others, and to be honest getting one up on the BNP would bring a smile to my ugly face. :lol:

[Tommy4ever]

Well if the combined efforts of all the left can't get more folks to vote for em than the BNP then we really are in trouble. We aint gonna get any power of substance via the ballot box, all we can use it for is a way to spread our ideas and discredit others, and to be honest getting one up on the BNP would bring a smile to my ugly face. :lol:

In the last election the combined vote of all 'leftist' candidates (excluding Norther Ireland) was 1/10 the BNP vote.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Labour Party is a hoxhaist party yeah?

[o well this is ok I guess]

As long as Mike McNair or Karl Kautsky doesn't knock at my door, its all good. The first image that came to my head was a zombie Kautsky.

[Pioneers_Violin]

Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition.
Trade Unionists rule! Yes, Ja, Si and Da, tovarisch! ;)

Second choice - Communist Party of Britain.

The Worker's Revolutionary Party does have the best name though.

[Tim Finnegan]

The Worker's Revolutionary Party does have the best name though.
Well, the most pompous, certainly.

[Aspiring Humanist]

The workers party of Korea

VIVA KIM!!

[Crux]

With a name like TUSC, how could I not? Also politically, yes.

[CHE with an AK]

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[Tim Finnegan]

That's the second thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2209604&postcount=33) you've posted this in. You're getting a bit one-note.

[CHE with an AK]

That's the second thread (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2209604&postcount=33) you've posted this in. You're getting a bit one-note.
If I find something that I find relevant to more than one of the dozens of ongoing conversations every few minutes then I reserve the right to apply something to a second conversation. Especially since not all users have the time to read all threads, in all forums, and all new posts each day. So, instead of re-posting about the way that I'm posting (for the second time as well), how about you add something at least tangentially relevant to the conversation? Surprise me. :)

[Ose]

No SPGB option?

[Tim Finnegan]

If I find something that I find relevant to more than one of the dozens of ongoing conversations every few minutes then I reserve the right to apply something to a second conversation.
And I'd go to the barricades to defend that right, sure. It's posting things that are of no relevance whatsoever (in both cases, the only reason to post that was that the word "anarchist" happened to have been used) that I take issue with. :p


So, instead of re-posting about the way that I'm posting (for the second time as well), how about you add something at least tangentially relevant to the conversation? Surprise me. :)I already did (http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2209361&postcount=8). It's yourself who managed to skip that part.


No SPGB option?
No SPGB candidates. http://www.v-strom.co.uk/phpBB3/images/smilies/smiley_shrug.gif

[CHE with an AK]

No SPGB option?
Socialist Party of Great Britain?

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