breast augmentation

[Fawkes]

Anyone have any experience with it? Particularly if you're biologically male.

It's something that's been kind of kicking around in the back of my head for a long time and is seeming more and more like something I may actually end up doing. I feel like I'm reaching a point in my life where I would find a great amount of fulfillment in doing it. Anyone have any experience or advice regarding the procedures involved? Costs? Happiness with results? Complications? Peoples' reactions?

Also, I'm interested in learning more about hormone therapy/treatments if any of you have experience with that as well.


P.S. I'm male but don't really have an interest in any sex reassignment surgery or other plastic surgeries beyond breast augmentation.

[The Douche]

Are you trans?

You can PM me or whatever, or not.

[Il Medico]

I'd reckon Esperanza or Iseul would be the people to ask about this.

Though, having tits myself, I can say its pretty fucking sweet, I think you'd probably be fairly happy with it.

[gendoikari]

I'd reckon Esperanza or Iseul would be the people to ask about this.

Though, having tits myself, I can say its pretty fucking sweet, I think you'd probably be fairly happy with it.

Dude I'm male with Man boobs I can't understand how any female can stand them, the sole motivating factor for me to loose weight is to get rid of them.

[PhoenixAsh]

man boobs /= breasts

[Pioneers_Violin]

Because I'm smallish on top I considered it for a time.
There's two basic placements and a few different types of implants.
You can have them put above or underneath the chest muscles, and the implants are either filled in place with saline which leaves a smaller scar or they are full-sized before insertion which requires a larger incision.

Implants are a foreign object and the body will tend to reject them. A hard "capsulation" can form around them and require daily massaging to prevent becoming hard as a rock.

Possible REALLY bad things that can happen:
1- Silicone implants can leak and poison you. Well, it isn't exactly "poisoning" in the traditional sense but it's bad. Once spread throughout the body, it can't really be cleaned out. I met someone who had this happen. The look of pain in her eyes was unbelievable.

2- Saline implants can grow fungi inside the saline solution. This can also cause problems especially if it ruptures.

Some of my friends got it done.
Results varied. One in particular who is very athletic was in pain for months and had the whole hardening thing for a long time afterwards. She had the over-muscle placement and filled-in-place saline implants.
Her own sister got it done in the same fashion and hardly noticed any pain and it went a lot better for her. She was not very athletic.

I know someone that got it done in her 60's! She hurt a lot for awhile. A co-worker of mine did too, she was fine in a few weeks.

Personally, I would never go with saline. They look fake to me, they're often hard and the risk of fungal trouble is too great.

They're working on "cohesive gel" silicone ones which hold some promise. These are anatomically shaped and look more natural. Because they're solid they can't really leak. This is what I would do but I changed my mind.

For me, the costs and risks are not worth it. I'll just continue along feeling a bit self-conscious about being small on top.

For you? If you just gotta have boobs you might want to consider cohesive gel ones if you want a natural look or saline if you want very obvious ones.

I can relate to feeling inadequately endowed. :blushing:
I'm sure you've considered the reactions of others so you must want it a lot.
May you find happiness with your decision.

[gendoikari]

man boobs /= breasts

True, but I can't imagine them not being annoying.

[freya4]

Why on earth would you possibly want boobs? I think they're annoying. Bras are uncomfortable and can be pretty damn expensive. Boobs also get in the way when it comes to sports. When I'm running or something, I have to wear multiple sports bras, so those things will stay in place. I mean, just imagine your balls, inflated and attached to your chest. Anyways, my point is that boobs are overrated and inconvenient. Plus, breast implants tend to be expensive. Don't do it.:(

[Il Medico]

Dude I'm male with Man boobs I can't understand how any female can stand them, the sole motivating factor for me to loose weight is to get rid of them.
I feel the exact opposite, if I could lose my extra pounds and keep my boobs I so would.


man boobs /= breasts
I don't really see the difference outside functionality. Sack of fat hanging off your chest that produces milk vs sack of fat hanging off your chest.

[gendoikari]

I feel the exact opposite, if I could lose my extra pounds and keep my boobs I so would.


I don't really see the difference outside functionality. Sack of fat hanging off your chest that produces milk vs sack of fat hanging off your chest.

lol actually in times of severe stress men can lactate. But there are differences, for instance most men find women with breasts attractive.... Breasts on men, not so much. I'm having trouble thinking of others and that onse subjective because there are a lot of men who like small breasts. Myself included.

[PhoenixAsh]

I don't really see the difference outside functionality. Sack of fat hanging off your chest that produces milk vs sack of fat hanging off your chest.

Breasts are a little more than sacks of fat. In fact the female breasts only consists about 1/3 to 1/2 of fatty tissue....depending on age and if lactating or not...gets higher after meno pause or with excess adipose tissue through "abnormal" fat build-up. The majority of the breast consists of glandular tissue, Lobulea, the milk ducts and elastin.

Now...with Gynecomastia the glandular tissue which is only marginal in men will increase so that it will become visible, mostly in the form of puffy nipples. This is because of hormonal imbalance. In order for that to become so expressed that we are actually talking breasts there needs to be high and prolonged steroid use of either testosterone or estrogen. The first means AAS use which will aromatise the excess testosterone into estrogen...simplified I know...but tahts more or less what happens. Or a man needs to use estrogen on purpose. Now...since that appears not to be the case here...

....we are not talking about true gynecomastia here.But instead breast-like protrusions through excess adipose tissue. That means he is talking about pseudo-gynecomastia which means that all of his man-breasts are caused by fatty tissue and none of it, aside from what he normally has or when he has puffy nipples as well, by Lobula and other tissue which make up the female breast.

Not only does that mean that the anatomy of the breasts is completely different; but also that this feels different; looks different and behaves different.

The only way for male breasts to accurately emulate female breasts is through hormonal therapy. They can be accurately mimiced by prostesis/implants.


edit: this post is not meant as a judgement of anything at all.

[Magón]

True, but I can't imagine them not being annoying.

Women say the same thing about guys having a penis.

[gendoikari]

Women say the same thing about guys having a penis.

well to be fair. it is a bit annoying. I mean it's tolerable because of it's function but it is annoying.

[Jazzratt]

well to be fair. it is a bit annoying. I mean it's tolerable because of it's function but it is annoying. Aside from one incident when I was young that involved barbed wire and can more properly be described as "harrowing" than "annoying" I'm quite happy with my arrangement, genital-wise.


Why on earth would you possibly want boobs? I think they're annoying. Bras are uncomfortable and can be pretty damn expensive. Boobs also get in the way when it comes to sports. When I'm running or something, I have to wear multiple sports bras, so those things will stay in place. I mean, just imagine your balls, inflated and attached to your chest. Anyways, my point is that boobs are overrated and inconvenient. Plus, breast implants tend to be expensive. Don't do it. I'm fairly positive that Fawkes can speak for himself on this matter, but I'd like to imagine I can stick vaguely on topic rather than going off on a tangent about my cockular happenings so I'll stick my oar in: I think the main reason is probably one of aesthetics. I think that alone justifies the expense (that and given that he is, as he pointed out in the OP, a bloke there isn't much in the way of a cheaper "grow-your-own" method available). As for the discomfort, it seems that purely synthetic breasts would not have as many complications in terms of discomfort as real ones with all sorts of nerves and shit and, again, people do all sorts of crazily uncomfortable (or uncomfortable sounding) things for the sake of aesthetics.

[gendoikari]

Aside from one incident when I was young that involved barbed wire and can more properly be described as "harrowing" than "annoying" I'm quite happy with my arrangement, genital-wise.

Spoiled for speaking frankly.
Really I find it annoying when they hang out the bottom of your briefs and flap around. JK JK, in all seriousness the same reason I can't imagine boobs being fun is the same reason as testicals. With the advent of clothing they are pressed against your body and being one of the five hot spots tend to sweat alot. and they do flap around alot, get caught in crevices and readjusting in public to keep from tearing your scrotum is not fun.

[PhoenixAsh]

I think if Fawkes wants breast he should get breasts.

Is this not covered by medical insurance?

[danyboy27]

I think if Fawkes wants breast he should get breasts.

Is this not covered by medical insurance?

i doubt something like that could be covered, since its purely esthetical.

[gendoikari]

i doubt something like that could be covered, since its purely esthetical.

I know a few surgeries are, Breast reduction is, but that has actual medical benefits, as does stomach staple. So I couldn't say for sure.

[gendoikari]

I think if Fawkes wants breast he should get breasts.

Is this not covered by medical insurance?

oh of course. I'm not trying to stand in his way.

[PhoenixAsh]

i doubt something like that could be covered, since its purely esthetical.


Yeah I kind of thought it might be considered as such. How about if he argues that this will improve the quality of his life and imrpove his mental health?

Would it be covered as psychological treatment?

[gendoikari]

Yeah I kind of thought it might be considered as such. How about if he argues that this will improve the quality of his life and imrpove his mental health?

Would it be covered as psychological treatment?

hadn't thought of that. But at the end of the day it's all about what's in his contract. if its not in there, then he doesn't get it. It ain't right but it's how it works.

[danyboy27]

I know a few surgeries are, Breast reduction is, but that has actual medical benefits, as does stomach staple. So I couldn't say for sure.

if you life or psychological well being os threatened, they could pay for the operation, but the proofs must be overwhelming.

for exemple here in canada, you can have your stormach stapled, but in order to do so you must demostrate out of the shadow of a doubt that your life is at risk.

you go to the doctor, if he is convinced he will put you on a list for revision by a panel of experts, if they deem it necessary, they put you on the waiting list.

Some women here had brest implant pay by the NHS but those where relative exceptionnal case, 17 year old girls with deep psychological trauma.

[praxis1966]

Yeah I kind of thought it might be considered as such. How about if he argues that this will improve the quality of his life and imrpove his mental health?

Would it be covered as psychological treatment?

I seriously doubt it. The only way I've heard of this sort of thing qualifying that way (and someone can correct me if I'm wrong about this) is if one were to undergo full gender reassignment surgery and even then there's a million and one hoops you have to jump through here in the States before the doctors will even consider you as a candidate... hoops which have nothing to do with insurance but indeed the medical practitioners themselves. It's very rarely approved AFAIK. From what I understand, what generally winds up happening is people who have the means usually wind up flying out of the country.

Working from there, I'm almost positive that this would wind up getting classed as an "elective" procedure, much like a facelift or something, and would therefore be something that wouldn't be covered. The only time I've ever heard of breast augmentation being covered more or less automatically in the US is if you're a woman who has had a mastectomy. All things considered, the US is ridiculously backward when it comes to this sort of thing... Probably even more so than the way Dany describes Canada if I had to guess.