View Full Version : Dutch Prince Bernhard 'was member of Nazi party'
Delenda Carthago
15th August 2011, 10:13
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/7377402/Dutch-Prince-Bernhard-was-member-of-Nazi-party.html
Prince Bernhard, the father of Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, was a member of the Nazi party, a new book has claimed, contracting the German-born Dutch war hero's life-long denials.
"Bernhard, a secret history" has revealed that the prince was a member of the German Nazi party until 1934, three years before he married Princess Juliana, the future queen of the Netherlands.
Annejet van der Zijl, a Dutch historian, has found membership documents in Berlin's Humboldt University that prove Prince Bernhard, who studied there, had joined Deutsche Studentenschaft, a National Socialist student fraternity, as well as the Nazi NSDAP and its paramilitary wing, the Sturmabteilung.
He left all the groups on leaving university in December 1934, when he went to work for the German chemical giant, IG Farben.
The prince always denied having been a member of the Nazi party, although he admitted that he briefly had sympathised with Adolf Hitler's regime. In one of the last interviews he gave before his death in 2004, he said: "I can swear this with my hand on the Bible: I was never a Nazi."
As the Nazis invaded Holland in 1940, the young prince consort, then aged 28, organised a group of palace guards that engaged in combat with German forces.
Denied the chance to stay and organise resistance by the then Queen Wilhelmina, he became head of the Dutch Royal Military Mission based in London.
As "Wing Commander Gibbs" – an honorary rank he held in the RAF – the prince later flew Allied bombing raids over occupied Europe before returning in 1944 as a Dutch war hero.
Not new, but I thought it might not be known, so I copy it.
Ravachol
15th August 2011, 15:16
This is kind of public knowledge in the Netherlands. Apart from that, he was a general reactionary, chauvinist pig later on as well. He played a prominent role in a scandal involving accepting $1 million in bribes from Lockheed to influence the Governments decisions regarding aircraft purchases as well as involvement in training members of the South African Apartheid regime-affiliated counter-insurgency unit Koevoet. Bernhard played a prominent role in the construction of the Dutch Intelligence services after World War II.
The head of the post-WWII Dutch security services, Louis Einthoven was also the head of the intelligence section of the Dutch Gladio branch and knew Bernhard fairly intimately. Einthoven collaborated with the Gestapo in the '30s and founded a right-wing conservative movement during WWII called "Dutch Union". Eventually, he met Prince Bernhard after the south of the Netherlands was liberated and was appointed chief of the intelligence services two years later.
Bernhard played a role in the re-construction of the conservative, right-wing 'Studentenweerbaarheden' (Student Defence Squads) affiliated to the fraternaties. These fraternaties had played a rather prominent role in the right-wing conservative, nationalist resistance to the German occupation and Bernhard envisioned a similar role for them in the event of 'Soviet Occupation' or a Communist insurgency. It is possible Gladio members were recruited from these groups.
Das war einmal
17th August 2011, 09:22
He betrayed dozens of dutch communists and delivered them into the hands of the SD when the WWII was reaching its end. He had a great influence on the execution of Hanny Schaft.
AntifaArnhem
19th August 2011, 10:11
He betrayed dozens of dutch communists and delivered them into the hands of the SD when the WWII was reaching its end. He had a great influence on the execution of Hanny Schaft.
I've never heard this story before, is this somekind of conspiracy or do you have actuall sources?
piet11111
19th August 2011, 11:52
To the English speaking members prins Claus the husband of Beatrix was a member of the Hitlerjugend and briefly served in the wehrmacht but was captured before he saw action.
The hitlerjugend part was mandatory but i think his service in the wehrmacht was also forced on him.
Sasha
19th August 2011, 12:18
I've never heard this story before, is this somekind of conspiracy or do you have actuall sources?
http://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=velser+affaire&go=Go
http://www.velseraffaire.nl/
http://www.afvn.nl/archief/velser_affaire.htm
http://www.dedokwerker.nl/velser_affaire.html
Honggweilo
19th August 2011, 15:22
I've never heard this story before, is this somekind of conspiracy or do you have actuall sources?
http://www.afvn.nl/archief/velser_affaire.htm
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velser_Affaire
alot of sources in the links, and also Harry Mulisch and Theun de Vries have wrote about it in their novels "The Girl with the Red Hair" and "The Assualt"
Honggweilo
19th August 2011, 15:29
Also
"I can swear this with my hand on the Bible: I was never a Nazi."
Said the most hypocritcal godless sinner in the whole history of the dutch royal family XD
Also, he was one of the most prominent founding figures in the Bilderberg Conference and had very close personal relations with the Videla regime of Argentina (not coincidently the biggest safehaven for nazi-exciles), The Colonel regime is Greece, the spanish monarchy under Franco, ect ect ect. The list just goes on and on and on...
Sasha
19th August 2011, 17:08
Not to mention that he strongly argued for not reinstating parliamentary democracy after the war and tried to pull an defacto coup when trying to lock his wife, the queen, up in a mental hospital during the greet hofman affair.
Ravachol
19th August 2011, 21:46
Bernhard was also a close friend of an employee of his, Baron van Lynden, a conservative ex-resistance member of the G7 group who went on to have a prominent function in the Operational branch of Gladio. Another personal friend and ex-member of the conservative-nationalist resistance was wealthy banker-heir Bib van Lanschot (of the Van Lanschot private bankers family/enterprise) who reputedly had a large role in financing the stay-behind. In this Dutch investigative report: http://parlis.nl/pdf/bijlagen/BLG5887.pdf, by the Ministry of Defence there are many more links between the royal family (and Bernhard in particular) and the schemes of the Cold War.
Whether Gladio actually operated in the Netherlands is unknown though many incidents (like the far-right Amsterdam metro bomb plot, the 2nd wave of RaRa bombings and several bombings supposedly from the autonomous movement) have dubious qualities. Ofcourse it's perfectly possible that these attacks were genuine or that they were 'casual' manipulations by the Intelligence Services. It's also possible that the actual stay-behind never amounted to much and provided more of a logistic role to the other european stay-behinds, which would be typical for Dutch military operations :rolleyes:
Tjis
20th August 2011, 16:46
Whether Gladio actually operated in the Netherlands is unknown though many incidents (like the far-right Amsterdam metro bomb plot, the 2nd wave of RaRa bombings and several bombings supposedly from the autonomous movement) have dubious qualities.
With second wave of RaRa bombings, do you mean the ones against the anti-immigration apparatus that was under construction then? Each of those actions was accompanied by a communique, and during this time RaRa also released a self-interview explaining their motivations.
I've read some of their communiques of this time as well as that interview and there's nothing dubious about them. If they were indeed a Gladio plot then they were one that knew their socialism and anti-fascism. Also, you might disagree with their tactics, but nobody ever died or got hurt during any RaRa action (probably thanks to careful planning) which doesn't really fit the image of a Gladio action.
I mean, compare this with the strategy of tension in Italy where hundreds of people died in terror attacks that were ascribed to anarchist groups. If RaRa was part of Gladio, they really weren't very good at it.
So what are these dubious qualities you're talking about?
Sasha
20th August 2011, 17:53
I would second what tjis said, while one could argue that blowing up costo's house by the rara and the failed bomb attack by amsterdam autonomen on the mayor house after the death of Hans kok where of an before that unknown militancy and technical expertise by that time enough dutchies been to el salvador and nigaragua to pick up those skills and there where also enough ira, Tamil tigers, rz, 2nd of June, pflp, raf and eta contacts to be found in the scene to acquire explosives and/or a ready made bomb.
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