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Morpheus
20th October 2003, 03:36
World War One:
Germany
Austria
Major Powers:
Britain
United States
Japan
Minor Powers:
Poland
The Czech Legion
France attempted to intervene, but it's troops mutinied.
Am I missing any countries?
Pete
20th October 2003, 13:27
Canada came in through the North, at Archangel.
YKTMX
20th October 2003, 17:13
I think there was some Finnish troops aswell.
the SovieT
20th October 2003, 21:22
Poland tried to conquer Moscow..
filthy pigs...
but they shouyld know that the People united shall never be defeated...
Al Creed
20th October 2003, 23:44
EDIT: I thought this post was about WWI :S
El Commandante
21st October 2003, 15:31
But SovieT relating the Poland's invasion of Russia they had actually been attacked first as the territory which was Poland had been made out of land which the Russians had given to the Germans in 1917 in Brest Livotsk which they were trying to reclaim. The Russians managed to get to the gates of Warsaw but were pushed back with the help of the British and Americans who used planes to bomb supply lines.
So the Polish were actually retaliating to push the Russians out of their own country and giving the Russians a bloody nose by pushing further in country. But the reason for the Polish pushing in further was because the Americans and British threatened to cut supplies to them if they did not continue to advance so they decided that they had no choice but to follow the orders of the coalition because they were such a new and weak state compared to the nations which bordered them - Russia and Germany - who both had claims on their territory.
Al Creed
21st October 2003, 15:56
What about...Afghanistan?
El Commandante
21st October 2003, 19:28
What about Afghanistan; a personally don't see the link, can you elaborate please and explain your view?
Al Creed
21st October 2003, 19:46
Actually, I just threw out that name, hoping I would be right:P
I think you guys covered them all.
El Commandante
23rd October 2003, 15:41
Ah ... I understand now, I thought it was a counter to my previous arguement about retaliation with you citing Afghanistan as an example - never mind.
Ian
26th October 2003, 00:23
Many soldiers from the British Empire fought as well, that is where people get figures like "20+ countries" invading Russia.
Australia contributed 200 soldiers I believe.
Severian
2nd November 2003, 02:58
Turkey. Possibly Estonia? Germany continued to intervene after WWI was over, in the Baltic states and the Ukraine. The "Freikorps" raised for this purpose also crushed the German revolutionaries, and were important precursors of Hitler's Brownshirts.
Not Afghanistan. In fact, the then-king of Afghanistan, Amanullah, was quite hostile to the British Empire, and attempted to bring about some modest progressive changes domestically. In the early 20s, Afghanistan received Soviet aid for an invasion of India that forced the Brits to recognize Afghanistan as fully independent. (Previously it had been a protectorate of the Empire.)
El Comandante is mistaken. Prior to the events he describes, Poland started the war against Soviet Russia. The Soviet government had tried hard to avoid war, even offering territorial concessions to Poland, which were refused due to greed and anticommunism. Following that, the Red Army carried out a counteroffensive almost to Warsaw, hoping to bring about a revolution there. This failed, the Red Army outran its supply lines, and then Poland carried out its counter-counter-offensive, and did in fact expand its borders even further.
The regime in Poland was, as El Comandante says, acting as a proxy for the major imperialist powers. But it was also pursuing its own capitalist interests by attacking Soviet Russia.
Also should be mentioned: Romania attacking and helping destroy Soviet Hungary around the same time.
Non-Sectarian Bastard!
2nd November 2003, 19:23
Afganistan has never been part of the Empire. The Brittish were defeated in all their attempts to conquer the country.
Soviet power supreme
2nd November 2003, 19:58
I think there was some Finnish troops aswell.
No there weren't Finnish troops.Maybe some inviduals went there but Finland didn't send troops.
Severian
2nd November 2003, 22:50
Originally posted by Non-Sectarian Bastard!@Nov 2 2003, 02:23 PM
Afganistan has never been part of the Empire. The Brittish were defeated in all their attempts to conquer the country.
True, it was not part of the Empire. But it was a protectorate - a semi-independent country that accepted British control over its foreign affairs.
British outrage over the uninvited arrival of a Russian diplomatic envoy in Kabul in 1878 resulted in the Second Anglo-Afghan War. Again the British were able to occupy all of the major cities, but unlike the last time, the British got wind of an impending rebellion against their occupation, and brutally crushed it in a pre-emptive move. They did subsequently withdraw, but not before they set up a puppet ruler and forced the country to hand over control of its foreign affairs to Britain.
Afghanistan would remain a British protectorate until 1919. Then, following the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917 and the wave of popular rebellions that rippled through Asia subsequently, the then king of Afghanistan, Amanullah, declared his country’s full independence by singing a treaty of aid and friendship with Lenin, and declaring war on Britain. After a brief period of border skirmishes, and the bombing of Kabul by the Royal Air Force, Britain conceded Afghanistan’s independence.
Link (http://www.geocities.com/youth4sa/s11-afghanistan.html)
Hawker
3rd November 2003, 00:48
America sent troops to Russia during the revolution to help stop the Bolshieviks.Chairman Nikita even mentioned the US intervention of the revolution.
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