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Sinister Cultural Marxist
11th August 2011, 20:11
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/11/mitt-romney-heckled-iowa_n_924426.html


WASHINGTON -- Speaking to an occasionally rowdy crowd two days before the Ames Straw poll, Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney made what seems likely to become a much-discussed flub, declaring to a group of Iowans that "corporations are people."
Pressed by an attendee at the Iowa State Fair on Thursday as to why he was focusing on entitlement reforms as a means of deficit reduction over asking corporations to share part of the burden, the GOP frontrunner shot back:
"Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings my friend."The comment was immediately pounced on by Democrats, who saw it as another example of Romney being uncomfortable on the stump and inartful in his attempts to come off as an everyday pol.
"This is what Mitt Romney is going to run on? Corporations are people? Really?" said Democratic National Committee Communications Director Brad Woodhouse. "There's a great message for people struggling to get by and trying to make ends meet. Don't complain -- corporations are people too!"
Speaking at the Des Moines Register soapbox, Romney was also interrupted by a heckler who asked if if he supported "scrapping the Social Security payroll cap so that rich people pay their fair share into the trust fund?"
Romney responded, "There was a time in this country where we didn't celebrate attacking people based on their success. We didn't go after people because they were successful. I've watched this president go across the country attacking people, and I... and I am... if you want to speak, you can speak. But right now it's my turn, so let me continue."
The presidential contender went on to underscore his bottom line. "If you don't like my answer, you can vote for someone else," he said.
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The situation that unfolded comes ahead of Thursday night's Republican presidential primary debate in the Hawkeye State. It also comes two days before the Ames Straw Poll, a test of conservative strength and table-setter for next year's Iowa caucuses that will take place on Saturday. While Romney will appear on the ballot, he is not actively campaigning to lock up support ahead of the event.
"As you know I participated in a major way in a straw poll four years ago," Romney said in addressing his decision to forego the straw poll during an appearance on Fox News' "Hannity" on Wednesday night. "Some of the benefit I already was able to accrue based upon what happened last time around... I want to use my financial resources and my time this time to actually get delegates, not the straw polls -- they are nice but don't get you delegates -- I'm not going to participate in the straw polls anywhere in the country."
I've never heard the economic neoliberal conservative position stated so explicitly before. Of course it is gibberish. There is no rational ontology that justifies the argument he makes. It's utter nonsense.

Aleenik
11th August 2011, 20:18
Mitt Romney is just another bourgeois. He loves Capitalism because he is on the top. He just wants to try and justify Capitalism because it is good for him and the other few, even though it hurts the many.

"Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings my friend."

Corporations are made up of people and the money that is earned does go to people. Of course though, the vast majority of the money goes to the bourgeois. And then they can take the money and invest it and get even richer than they already were.

gendoikari
11th August 2011, 20:20
"Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings my friend."

it goes into the bourgeois's pockets via the convoluted stock system... and I barely call them "human". Although they are technically homo sapiens. And after it goes to them them they spend the money, by either investing or buying things..... from other corporations.... who take the money, and the cylce starts all over again. It never really reaches People. But it most certainly reaches the sadest excuses of homo sapiens there are.

A Revolutionary Tool
11th August 2011, 20:28
Can the proletariat put a corporations head in the guillotine? I think not, therefore it's not human.

ZeroNowhere
11th August 2011, 20:33
I love how Romney seems incapable of accepting the idea that money is invested as capital. Of course, in reality, capital functions for the sake of capital, not for the sake of either capitalists or workers qua human beings. Otherwise, incoherence aside, this is a nice example of how capitalist ideology often takes as its presupposition that capitalism is communism (Marx accused Ricardo of this a couple of times, I believe.)

CHE with an AK
11th August 2011, 21:04
YEdQWZBwUrU

"Mitt Romney is who people who don't like white people think of white people." - Bill Maher

Pretty Flaco
11th August 2011, 21:41
"All power to the people!" -Mitt Romney

CAleftist
11th August 2011, 21:48
"Corporations are people, my friend... of course they are. Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to the people. Where do you think it goes? Whose pockets? Whose pockets? People's pockets. Human beings my friend."

Which people, Romney? Care to elaborate?

Oh that's right, rich assholes like yourself.

Klaatu
11th August 2011, 21:50
Romney would have allowed the Detroit 3 car companies to fail (2 of which would have, sans bailout funds) which would have been the loss of thousands of good-paying union jobs. I wonder if he would have thought the same way if the Detroit 3 were entirely non-union?

o well this is ok I guess
11th August 2011, 21:52
Don't be mean to Romney he is a people too
just a bad bad people

thesadmafioso
11th August 2011, 21:53
A wealthy conservative politician defending his constituency of the rich? Who could of seen such a surprising development coming?

Klaatu
11th August 2011, 21:56
Romney responded, "There was a time in this country where we didn't celebrate attacking people based on their success. We didn't go after people because they were successful. So then we should go after the "non-successful" people? (the poor, the sick, the elderly?) :confused:

Well that's exactly what Romney and his ilk are doing!

Pretty Flaco
11th August 2011, 21:58
So then we should go after the "non-successful" people? (the poor, the sick, the elderly?) :confused:

Yes. We're not successful because we're stupid, so put us out in the goddamn streets already!

Klaatu
11th August 2011, 21:59
Yes. We're not successful because we're stupid, so put us out in the goddamn streets already!

They are trying to, believe me.

Susurrus
11th August 2011, 22:48
So I guess he is a commie, due to the fact that he supports bailing out "people." Also he wants to cut taxes on "people," therefore he must be wanting to raise taxes on the rich! This fellow sounds like a swell guy.

Proteus
11th August 2011, 23:11
Legally, corporations in the US are 'people'. Sounds crazy but its true. It was a theme explored in the movie 'The Corporation'.

RadioRaheem84
11th August 2011, 23:43
The Corporations exploited a loophole in an ammendment intended for freed slaves.

Romney is the most pro-Wall St. Repub in DC.

Revy
12th August 2011, 00:18
WTF? Corporations' wealth goes to the people? In what universe?

gendoikari
12th August 2011, 00:36
Can the proletariat put a corporations head in the guillotine? I think not, therefore it's not human.

Unfortunately legally it is, you can thank santa clara county v southern pacific. However it is a special type of person, it has no soul to save and no body to incarcerate.

Sasha
12th August 2011, 00:37
WTF? Corporations' wealth goes to the people? In what universe?

in the universe where the theory of trickle down economics is correct.



although one only needs to look at romneys bank accounts to see that that idea is one big scam full of BS, that money is going nowhere

A Revolutionary Tool
12th August 2011, 02:11
Unfortunately legally it is, you can thank santa clara county v southern pacific. However it is a special type of person, it has no soul to save and no body to incarcerate.

Pfft...Like I give a fuck what the law says. Corporations aren't humans, end of story, there is no debate.

L.A.P.
13th August 2011, 06:06
in the universe where the theory of trickle down economics is correct.

Must be the same universe where objectivism is an objective worldview, where the state really is antagonistic to the bourgeoisie, where the Iraq War is a war of liberation and freedom, a universe where there really is a "human nature" consisting of traits such as greed and selfishness, and where liberal democracy is actually democracy, and let's not forget it's also where corporations constitute as human beings. Can we just send all the right-wingers to that universe so we don't have to deal with their shit?

CornetJoyce
13th August 2011, 06:35
Unfortunately legally it is, you can thank santa clara county v southern pacific. However it is a special type of person, it has no soul to save and no body to incarcerate.


"They (corporations) cannot commit treason, nor be outlawed nor excommunicate, for they have no souls. "

Edward Coke,
Case of Sutton's Hospital,1612