Pour Your "Reactionary" Heart

[Valdemar]

Well, let me start first.
I'm being really a lot frustrated and irritated (not that much) that We so called and falsely labeled "Reactionary" users can't discuss on some topics. Like there is topic to "Pour your heart Out" and since I'm so called and labeled "Reactionary" I can't "Pour my Heart", I feel like being discriminated!

(Nice Intro? eh ?) :)

Notice: True Reactionaries can also participate...(who said that we Stalinist don't believe in freedom of speech and expression :P jk)
oh And feel free to thank me for this post. (button in bottom right corner, or give me some rep. I'm rep Whore (was this sexism?))
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[Nox]

You got restricted for being a Marxist-Leninist? :confused:

[Rafiq]

No, he's just bullshitting about that, like most users do when they get restricted: ("I was restricted for being a Stalinist/Anarchist/Socialist!") when it turns out they were probably racists, anti semites or sexists.

[Metacomet]

Reactionaries don't have hearts. Souls are doubtful too.

[Nox]

Lol, this post was that got him restricted



:)I'm new, and i hope this will not sound like provocation.
But your mom is right and you shuld listen to her...she has got years of expiriance, and afther all, she is a woman :) and she is your mom, and moms want best for their sons :)

I don't agree with bible, rib and stuff, and i think she does not think that so "iterally" and anyone who takes bible literally...well he shuld read it few more times.

I think your mother wanted to say to you that you shuld be head of the Family and you shuld have pants and not your Girl/Wife...Thats my Tought...

[Nox]

Btw, the title of the thread was "I was just given a women are inferior to men speech"

http://www.revleft.com/vb/just-given-women-t153405/index.html?p=2085152

[Valdemar]

No, he's just bullshitting about that, like most users do when they get restricted: ("I was restricted for being a Stalinist/Anarchist/Socialist!") when it turns out they were probably racists, anti semites or sexists.

I did not say that at all...And it is not true! It may have sounded like I did(?), but it was not my intention. To make it clear, this thread is not discussion about my restriction and was not made to discuss that. Thanks for your worries about my restrictoin, I appreciate it...
But since you guys are interested:Like Black Eyes said, offical "Restriction" was-is due Sexism, I wrote appeal for unrestriction and have explaind that it was joke&troll&wise advice, to that boy, -Basicly that isn't my point of view. Mods and Admins ignored me-my post, and I'm still restricted-so called "reactionary"
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Back to thread:
Pouring my-my "reactionary heart" out,
Few days back, my city organized some kind of City Event, during that day-night a lot of folks go out and some Music Groups come and play on Square some new age market widespread sht. I have arranged meeting with my friends, and like always I was being late...While I was at hurry to the place where meeting would occur, I needed to pass one of the squares, when I was at middle of square, suddenly the band(music group) starts playing some familiar tune, which was really enjoyable, in split sec. I recognize it! Its "Katjusha"! which is really or almost never preformed at my country anymore...People Were energetic, I suddenly stopped, and turned around and actually listen to the group-band, and totally ignored that I was already late on meeting. I looked around and saw people enjoying on the square, listening about Girl which is wating for his darling to reurn from war and on a square which is dedicated to the fallen fighters against Fascism (Partisans-Communist) on which are statues of those same soliders and I was at middle of all this-among them. After group finished performance, I left square to attend meeting, emotionally striked-hitted I actually have dropped-left a tear on that square.
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//Please don't trash thread...Please stay on the Topic
"Reactionaries" and Reactionaries, Pour Your (R) Hour out!

[ComradeMan]

I think his restriction for that was bullshit. The guy wasn't stating his own beliefs but interpreting a situation which, ffs, many here will be familiar with.

[ColonelCossack]

that's deep. he was new when he posted it. :bored:

edit:deep=harsh for anyone that doesn't know :p

[Nox]

that's deep. he was new when he posted it. :bored:

edit:deep=harsh for anyone that doesn't know :p

Yeah that is true, but the Admins will take into account the fact that he was new when he said it when debating whether or not to unrestrict him. From what I can see he was new and made a risky post.

[ColonelCossack]

Yeah that is true, but the Admins will take into account the fact that he was new when he said it when debating whether or not to unrestrict him. From what I can see he was new and made a risky post.

I know if I joined for the first time and I was almost immediately restricted, I would be slightly put off leftism- if i hadn't already been describing myself as an M-L in 2007 when I was 11.

[Dogs On Acid]

I think Admins can take things a bit too serious sometimes...

How do you expect a guy with 1 post (who is probably under 20 as the trend is here) to be 100% kosher.

Don't restrict, educate.

FFS it was his 1st post...

[ComradeMan]

Another member has been restricted, Frohicky- after like, one post and I don't see from the post what he did either. :confused:

[PhoenixAsh]

See...this is why restricted people can't post in a "pour your heart out thread"....ultimately its all about the restriction policy :D

Shall we get the thread back on track?

Yesterday I really was into chicken. So I bought chicken and put it in the oven. I haven't done groceries in a long time. So there is not too much else to eat in the house. So the chicken had some time to go in that oven and I temporarilly was distracted by an interesting chat....which ended uop lasting an hour or two...after which I suddenly thought: "whats that smell"

It turned out to be my chicken. Which was bruned to a crisp.

Oh well...I guess it will be veggies and pasta...again!

Damnit

[Thirsty Crow]

I think his restriction for that was bullshit. The guy wasn't stating his own beliefs but interpreting a situation which, ffs, many here will be familiar with.
Yeah, and just by the way the user in question found it necessary to mention that OP should listen to his/her mom since she's got a ton of experience.

[ComradeMan]

Yeah, and just by the way the user in question found it necessary to mention that OP should listen to his/her mom since she's got a ton of experience.

And put in "smiley faces"- it seems to me he was parodying the old line of "mother knows best"- familiar to use all. I don't think he was advocating that himself to be honest- and even if that is not the case is respect for one's mother now reactionary?

[ComradeMan]

See...this is why restricted people can't post in a "pour your heart out thread"....ultimately its all about the restriction policy :D

You're not restricted.... go away imposter.- :D ;)

[Dogs On Acid]

You're not restricted.... go away imposter.- :D ;)

He was restricted from eating his chicken, have some solidarity man! :crying:

[NGNM85]

See...this is why restricted people can't post in a "pour your heart out thread"....ultimately its all about the restriction policy :D

The Restriction policy needs a total overhaul. It's complete bullshit and deserves nearly all the criticism it recieves.

Personally, I've always been of the view that infractions should be solely based on conduct; flaming, spamming, trolling, dummy accounts, etc., not based on some Stalinist ideological purity test.

[PhoenixAsh]

Well...

* The Stalinists/Maoists blame the admins for being Anarchists
* The Anarchists blame the admins for being Stalinist
* The Trotskyists blame everybody for everything...but who listens to Trotskyists?...so they don't count :P :P

But in the meantime we had a series of Maoists apologising and advocating for rape. We have had self-proclaimed revolutionaries calling for authoritarian clam down and police support. We have had rampant sexism on the board to such an extend we lost female members. We have had self proclaimed revolutionaries be anti-semites. We have had witchhunting by members on other members. We have had closet-Cappies proclaiming capitalism was "tha shizzle" and we have had an army of socks, trolls and fascists/ crypto-fascists...free market libertarians and social-democrats.

Some users may have been caught up in that...but so far very little restricted members I have seen have been actually posting something contrary to the reason they were restricted or posting consistently to disprove the restriction was warranted.

In the mean time there have been several changes to the board which prevent witchhunting by other members and which open up the board for all users by auto-entry into the CU at post count instead of by vote.

[PhoenixAsh]

You're not restricted.... go away imposter.- :D ;)

Hey...being just a member is too mainstream...damnit!!! I like mixing it with the criminally insane...;):D


He was restricted from eating his chicken, have some solidarity man! :crying:

Word! :crying: I loved that chicken. And instead of enjoying the short time we had together...I had to burry it in a watery grave...*snif*

[NGNM85]

Well...
* The Stalinists/Maoists blame the admins for being Anarchists
Unless something's changed since I was restricted, Anarchists are more of a tolerated minority.

* The Anarchists blame the admins for being Stalinist
That's not totally unjustified.

But in the meantime we had a series of Maoists apologising and advocating for rape.
I stopped being surprised by that shit since the ‘Al-Qaeda Solidarity’ thread. I’m fully aware of the rampant dementia on the forum.

We have had self-proclaimed revolutionaries calling for authoritarian clam down and police support.
If you’re talking about unpopularfreedomfront, his initial statements were fairly innocuous.

We have had rampant sexism on the board to such an extend we lost female members.
Please, tell me TC was one of them.

We have had witchhunting by members on other members.
I’m intimately familiar with this phenomena, having been the subject of such a campaign, myself.

We have had closet-Cappies proclaiming capitalism was "tha shizzle" and we have had an army of socks, trolls and fascists/ crypto-fascists...free market libertarians and social-democrats.
　
Again; my position is that infractions should be strictly limited to conduct; spamming, trolling, flaming, sock puppet accounts, etc., not based on ‘ideological purity.’ I’d even argue that self-identified fascists should be allowed to post, provided they can behave themselves. (Which, I’ll admit, is unlikely.)
　

Some users may have been caught up in that...but so far very little restricted members I have seen have been actually posting something contrary to the reason they were restricted or posting consistently to disprove the restriction was warranted.

That depends what you mean by ‘warranted.’ I was restricted in accordance with forum rules. I don’t deny that. (Although, it is interesting that among several other members, including one mod, who expressed the same sentiments, only I was restricted.) The problem is that specific rule is fundamentally bogus.
Like I said; I don’t think there should be any enforcement of ideological purity, whatsoever but when consistent, orthodox, for lack of a better term, Anarchists, and Marxists are being restricted, there’s clearly a problem.

[PhoenixAsh]

Unless something's changed since I was restricted, Anarchists are more of a tolerated minority.

not according to the Marxist Leninists.



That's not totally unjustified.

Well...again not according to the Marxist Leninists ;-)



I stopped being surprised by that shit since the ‘Al-Qaeda Solidarity’ thread. I’m fully aware of the rampant dementia on the forum.

Most of them are gone now...banned or they simply left.



If you’re talking about unpopularfreedomfront, his initial statements were fairly innocuous.

It was not just him in those threads. But yes. He was one of them. And as was said in his thread, by me, he was not intending to learn but was clinging to some very disturbing upsetting ideas about law and order in a capitalist world.



Please, tell me TC was one of them.

TC left for other reasons.



I’m intimately familiar with this phenomena, having been the subject of such a campaign, myself.

Yup...I remember....and you know I do.



Again; my position is that infractions should be strictly limited to conduct; spamming, trolling, flaming, sock puppet accounts, etc., not based on ‘ideological purity.’ I’d even argue that self-identified fascists should be allowed to post, provided they can behave themselves. (Which, I’ll admit, is unlikely.)

I disagree here. I think there may be some people who fall through the cracks at one point or another but this is a forum for the revolutionary left. If your opinions are not revolutionary and/or supportive of the current system and mode of production then there should be no free roaming on the forum. OI is a place where you can post and debate with teh revolutionary leftists or where you can show a mistake was made. But at some point it get terribly annoying to debate the same points over and over again with people who are neither revolutionary not willing to learn.

For fascists and third positionists I think there should never be room at all. They have their own place and should stick to that.

　


That depends what you mean by ‘warranted.’ I was restricted in accordance with forum rules. I don’t deny that. (Although, it is interesting that among several other members, including one mod, who expressed the same sentiments, only I was restricted.) The problem is that specific rule is fundamentally bogus.

You know my position I made clear then on that specific decision.

Like I said; I don’t think there should be any enforcement of ideological purity, whatsoever but when consistent, orthodox, for lack of a better term, Anarchists, and Marxists are being restricted, there’s clearly a problem.

Well...who? Because I don't think that anybody is restricted that fit that exact description since yo were gone who did not get several warnings and infractions or ignored several public warnings about certain behaviour.

[Manic Impressive]

We have had rampant sexism on the board to such an extend we lost female members.
wait what? name one?

[PhoenixAsh]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2205057&postcount=50

[Manic Impressive]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2205057&postcount=50
ah ok well not since either me or you have been posting here. Actually in the last year more female users have left because of the harsh board policy or they've been banned or they've left because of personal differences with members of the BA. That is more than 0 who have quit because of sexism.

[PhoenixAsh]

Fair enough...how do you know?

[Manic Impressive]

Fair enough...how do you know?
good memory I guess.

How badly do you want to be a mod because the way you're kissing arse it won't take long?

[PhoenixAsh]

good memory I guess.

How badly do you want to be a mod because the way you're kissing arse it won't take long?

O wauw.

Soooo let me get this straight. If I do not agree with the position of some posters on the BA or the restriction/ban policy...I am being a kiss arse?

In this specific case I do not agree with the idea of changing this board into an open free for all forum where all ideologies can mix freely...even behaving fascists. If thats your goal I am going to argue against it because it is my opinion that this is supposed to be a forum for the revolutionary left and not just another political discussion board in which we are ultimately and will ultimately become just another minority.

[Manic Impressive]

O wauw.

Soooo let me get this straight. If I do not agree with the position of some posters on the BA or the restriction/ban policy...I am being a kiss arse?
nah only when you make shit up to get in with certain people
http://rayharvey.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/myths_genesimmons_170x170.6556216.jpg

[PhoenixAsh]

Riiight...and since when does your opinion trump that of an Admin on whose post I based my statement? Ie... source. Which, by the way, was made in a thread about the very reason why we do not have many women users?


So...now we have:

an unfounded accusations of kissing arse

&

an unfounded accusation of making things up


You are not doing much for your credibiliy in this argument.

[Manic Impressive]

You stated something that happened before you were even here which from what I gather was a case of harassment not of the general sexism......oh no sorry I mean "The rampant sexism" so you are taking an example from what 3...4...5 years ago to make a point about how the board is now? ha how fucking ridiculous. Name one female user who has left because of the rampant sexism on here in the last year or stfu

What really pisses me off is users leaving because of board policy especially female users who the policy is supposed to protect. But hey I got no goals no agenda nothing I say will change anything. I just don't like seeing people lying and twisting the facts for their own sake

[NGNM85]

not according to the Marxist Leninists.
Well...again not according to the Marxist Leninists ;-)

Are there any Anarchist mods? I can’t recall one. I do recall several Marxist-Leninist mods. I think it’s very clear that the Marxists, especially the Marxist-Leninists, run the show around here.


Most of them are gone now...banned or they simply left.

I haven’t done any kind of exhaustive analysis, especially seeing as I can’t even post in nine-tenths of the forum. However, most of the members I remember despising are still active members. Well, except for one notable exception. I’d bet the forum is still about as blinkered as it was when I left.


It was not just him in those threads. But yes. He was one of them. And as was said in his thread, by me, he was not intending to learn but was clinging to some very disturbing upsetting ideas about law and order in a capitalist world.

It looked to me like he, essentially, got jumped. I only read his first four or five posts, but they were extremely benign. Of course, again, if it were up to me, hardly anybody would be restricted.


TC left for other reasons.

Good riddance. Too bad I missed that. I certainly won't be shedding any tears...


I disagree here. I think there may be some people who fall through the cracks at one point or another but this is a forum for the revolutionary left. If your opinions are not revolutionary and/or supportive of the current system and mode of production then there should be no free roaming on the forum.

I’ve always been skeptical about the merits of categorizing oneself as a ‘Revolutionary Leftist.’ I prefer ‘Radical Leftist’, if not ‘Anarchist’, or ‘Libertarian Socialist’, which is how I typically describe myself. It’s just always rubbed me the wrong way. The word ‘Revolutionary’ tends to be interpreted in the most crude, and literal sense.


OI is a place where you can post and debate with teh revolutionary leftists or where you can show a mistake was made. But at some point it get terribly annoying to debate the same points over and over again with people who are neither revolutionary not willing to learn.
For fascists and third positionists I think there should never be room at all. They have their own place and should stick to that.

We’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I don’t see any harm in it. Nor do I think there’s any validity in the fear that ‘RevLeft’ will be suddenly besieged by Young Republicans. Even if it is, if they don’t flame, spam, or create dummy accounts, and are actually willing to conduct themselves in an intelligent and civilized manner, I don’t see any reason to give three shits.
　

You know my position I made clear then on that specific decision.

Yeah, I’m aware I’m not alone in thinking this way. Just as I know I was the only one who was restricted for it. I know I raised some valid points. However, this merely underscores the problem. Radical Leftists shouldn’t have to be keeping their opinions to themselves for fear of being restricted from a supposedly Radical Leftist forum on the basis of some bogus prohibition that has nothing to do with Radical Leftism. Also, I’ll be damned if I’m going to recant and pledge my support to a position that I think is irrational, and wrongheaded. I don’t agree with it, and I’m never going to say otherwise.

[Dogs On Acid]

Are there any Anarchist mods? I can’t recall one. I do recall several Marxist-Leninist mods. I think it’s very clear that the Marxists, especially the Marxist-Leninists, run the show around here.

http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=8267
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=10752
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=14921
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=19995
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=12069
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=9929
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=8183
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=14401
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=17987
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=9249
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=18912

Just a few Anarchist mods... :rolleyes:

[NGNM85]

http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=8267
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=10752
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=14921
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=19995
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=12069
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=9929
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=8183
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=14401
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=17987
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=9249
http://www.revleft.com/vb/member.php?u=18912

Just a few Anarchist mods... :rolleyes:

I would only describe, maybe, half of those people as Anarchists, and most of those, I think, were after my time, unless they changed their SN's, or went on extended leave, or whatever.

[PhoenixAsh]

You stated something that happened before you were even here which from what I gather was a case of harassment not of the general sexism

Are you fucking kidding me?

I cited a post which was made a few days ago about women leaving the forum because of sexism. As I did mention....from a thread which deals with the very same topic.

So now you blame me for the information I am citing being incorrect in your mind....because...get this... you can't remember a female member leaving for that reason?

But this does not surprise me from you. That IS your usual tactic, isn't it?


......oh no sorry I mean "The rampant sexism" so you are taking an example from what 3...4...5 years ago to make a point about how the board is now? ha how fucking ridiculous. Name one female user who has left because of the rampant sexism on here in the last year or stfu

Fucking ridiculous?

Here you go idiot. Because you have such a good memory:

30th of july:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/announcement-all-forum-t158856/index.html

9th of july:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/announcement-sexism-homophobia-t157717/index.html



What really pisses me off is users leaving because of board policy especially female users who the policy is supposed to protect. But hey I got no goals no agenda nothing I say will change anything. I just don't like seeing people lying and twisting the facts for their own sake

Yeah..indeed those people piss me off massively too. You are one of them. You definately got an agenda. Mass Prole Tirade. Twisting and turning your way through debates. Don't even try to appear all clean and lofty in your goals.

But you probably dont want me mentioning you comming to the defense of a one year member still using the word ***** to describe women he doesnt like and pretending he is sooo fucking surprised the word is sexist and then...get this...goes on to explain why he used it with exactly the reason why it is sexist.

And as I can clearly fucking remember, you having such a good memory and all, I was also the one pointing out the thread I mentioned above dealing with exactly what I said was happening in the very same thread you were defending him. So do NOT act like it is fucking silly of me to say it.
(http://www.revleft.com/vb/comment-restrictions-t158764/index2.html?highlight=mass+prole+tirade)

Not to mention the fact that the OTHER thread I posted above was mentioned to you not five posts later.

Fucking hypocrite.

Or your desperate attempts to try to argue that banning Bailey was a bad idea even when you were faced with the fact that he was openly sexist and abusive through the rep system, amongst others with copious use of the word "****" because...get this...enforcing the rules (on sexism) was making members feel excluded. Sure buddy boy...sexism and abuse must be ignored because otherwise the sexists might feel unwelcome.

:rolleyes:

[Leftsolidarity]

Jumping in for a second.

What don't you understand about REVOLUTIONARY LEFT. COM?

Why would we have people who aren't revolutionary leftists just post anywhere and act like it is also their site? The point of revleft is so that we can talk to revolutionary leftists, not capitalist/fascists/liberals/etc.

[PhoenixAsh]

Are there any Anarchist mods? I can’t recall one. I do recall several Marxist-Leninist mods. I think it’s very clear that the Marxists, especially the Marxist-Leninists, run the show around here.

I haven’t done any kind of exhaustive analysis, especially seeing as I can’t even post in nine-tenths of the forum. However, most of the members I remember despising are still active members. Well, except for one notable exception. I’d bet the forum is still about as blinkered as it was when I left.


There has been a mass exodus of the more entrenched Tankies. Especially after a whole slew of self-professed Maoists was banned for rape appology.


It looked to me like he, essentially, got jumped. I only read his first four or five posts, but they were extremely benign. Of course, again, if it were up to me, hardly anybody would be restricted.

Welll...his thread title in OI was that he suspected he was restricted because he was a socialist and not an Anarchist ;)


Good riddance. Too bad I missed that. I certainly won't be shedding any tears...

From what I heard she was demasked for the CU and then left in a self imposed leave of absense. The thread she made will probably still be in the members forum.


I’ve always been skeptical about the merits of categorizing oneself as a ‘Revolutionary Leftist.’ I prefer ‘Radical Leftist’, if not ‘Anarchist’, or ‘Libertarian Socialist’, which is how I typically describe myself. It’s just always rubbed me the wrong way. The word ‘Revolutionary’ tends to be interpreted in the most crude, and literal sense.

True, there is a lot of room for debate on what constitutes revolutionary. But I think there is a widespread consensus that some things are definately not.


We’re just going to have to agree to disagree. I don’t see any harm in it. Nor do I think there’s any validity in the fear that ‘RevLeft’ will be suddenly besieged by Young Republicans. Even if it is, if they don’t flame, spam, or create dummy accounts, and are actually willing to conduct themselves in an intelligent and civilized manner, I don’t see any reason to give three shits.

Well for one because this is a place for the revolutionary left to exchange ideas and have debates. If I wanted an open forum for all political idiocies I would join one of the open political forums. Its not the way this board was intended and I think it would be a grave mistake for it to become just another one of those.
　

[Manic Impressive]

Are you fucking kidding me?

I cited a post which was made a few days ago about women leaving the forum because of sexism. As I did mention....from a thread which deals with the very same topic.
you posted a link to one of COTR's posts. I fail to see how this is evidence of female users leaving because of rampant sexism.


So now you blame me for the information I am citing being incorrect in your mind....because...get this... you can't remember a female member leaving for that reason?

But this does not surprise me from you. That IS your usual tactic, isn't it?
not in my mind, just because there is no actual evidence. I can however remember plenty of female users leaving for a bunch of other reasons but never because of "the rampant sexism"



Here you go idiot. Because you have such a good memory:

30th of july:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/announcement-all-forum-t158856/index.html

9th of july:
http://www.revleft.com/vb/announcement-sexism-homophobia-t157717/index.html

what the hell is that supposed to prove? seriously? I can't see your point. Who apart from one user donkeys years ago has left because of sexism?


Yeah..indeed those people piss me off massively too. You are one of them. You definately got an agenda. Mass Prole Tirade. Twisting and turning your way through debates. Don't even try to appear all clean and lofty in your goals.
So you're pissed off with female users who leave because the board policy is to harsh. What is the point in having a strict policy if the users it is meant to protect quit BECAUSE OF IT

You're a fucking joke :lol:

[NGNM85]

There has been a mass exodus of the more entrenched Tankies. Especially after a whole slew of self-professed Maoists was banned for rape appology.

Hrmph.


From what I heard she was demasked for the CU and then left in a self imposed leave of absense. The thread she made will probably still be in the members forum.

Again; good riddance.


True, there is a lot of room for debate on what constitutes revolutionary. But I think there is a widespread consensus that some things are definately not.

Yeah, but that's only half the equation. I also just think it's kind of a bogus label.


Well for one because this is a place for the revolutionary left to exchange ideas and have debates. If I wanted an open forum for all political idiocies I would join one of the open political forums. Its not the way this board was intended and I think it would be a grave mistake for it to become just another one of those.
　

I don't think it's an either/or situation. The forum was clearly designed for Radical Leftists, and caters to Radical Leftists. I don't see a mass influx of other ideologies happening. I just don't think there are hordes of Republicans itching to join.

I'm on one of those more open political forums, and I like it. It's a little isolating being the only Anarchist, but it's so much more free and accessible. One would think it would be the other way around.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

There has been a mass exodus of the more entrenched Tankies. Especially after a whole slew of self-professed Maoists was banned for rape appology.

You know now I think about it, there doesn't seem to be as many Maoists about as there used to be. Did I miss something?

[#FF0000]

You know now I think about it, there doesn't seem to be as many Maoists about as there used to be. Did I miss something?

Tons of 'em said it was a-okay to rape germans when the ussr took berlin.

also I think maoists in particular are really prone to the whole picking up the ball and going home thing.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Tons of 'em said it was a-okay to rape germans when the ussr took berlin.

I remember al8 getting banned for that, but I don't think he was a Maoist.


also I think maoists in particular are really prone to the whole picking up the ball and going home thing.

Even if it means making excuses for rape apologists? Tut-tut.

[PhoenixAsh]

you posted a link to one of COTR's posts. I fail to see how this is evidence of female users leaving because of rampant sexism. not in my mind, just because there is no actual evidence. I can however remember plenty of female users leaving for a bunch of other reasons but never because of "the rampant sexism" what the hell is that supposed to prove? seriously? I can't see your point. Who apart from one user donkeys years ago has left because of sexism? So you're pissed off with female users who leave because the board policy is to harsh. What is the point in having a strict policy if the users it is meant to protect quit BECAUSE OF IT

You're a fucking joke :lol:


Yes we agree, you fail a lot. This is nothing very surprising seeing how you are being your usual self and are quickly retorting back to your usual tactic of throwing aroud strawmen and being intelectual dishonest to serve your own agenda.

But this is not your real point now is it? Because if it was you would have left it when I told you "fair enough". Instead however you chose to retort to ad hominems and continuie to debate the issue. NOT because of some lofty ideals but out of your own agenda.

That was definate proof of your general hypocracy.

Using quotation marks as to somehow make it appear there was no rampant sexism on this board and that you were serving lofty goals of truth and honesty instead of being just an appologist for just about every sexist and mysogenist asshat on this board.

You were fully aware of the continuous debates the last weeks about the sexism occuring on this board so do NOT try to paint this by your subtile use of the quotation marks as everything was a-okay.

[PhoenixAsh]

You know now I think about it, there doesn't seem to be as many Maoists about as there used to be. Did I miss something?

We had the whole Russian army raped German women thread and RedCat asked for a ban on his account after he was condoning that and defending it. There was another user who said French collaborators deserved to get raped after the war. He got banned. And there was Redsunrising (or something) who defended him in the thread in the members forum about rape apology. Who then got banned as well. After that several of them went over to another forum. Or simply stopped posting.

[PhoenixAsh]

I don't think it's an either/or situation. The forum was clearly designed for Radical Leftists, and caters to Radical Leftists. I don't see a mass influx of other ideologies happening. I just don't think there are hordes of Republicans itching to join.

I'm on one of those more open political forums, and I like it. It's a little isolating being the only Anarchist, but it's so much more free and accessible. One would think it would be the other way around.

We have had a slur of trolls and reactionaries comming into the fora...I do not think this will change when we open up the forum to all ideologies.

I don't like the open political fora because of the simple fact that I want to debate communism with other communists instead of continuously defending or dealing with reactionary asshats...I get that enough in the real world as it is and it is getting tiresome.

...and if I want that for a change I can go to OI and participate in the threads there.

[hatzel]

Am I the only one who doesn't much like all the hostility in this thread? :unsure:

Stop pouring your hearts out, people, it's making a mess!

[Manic Impressive]

Yes we agree, you fail a lot. This is nothing very surprising seeing how you are being your usual self and are quickly retorting back to your usual tactic of throwing aroud strawmen and being intelectual dishonest to serve your own agenda.

But this is not your real point now is it? Because if it was you would have left it when I told you "fair enough". Instead however you chose to retort to ad hominems and continuie to debate the issue. NOT because of some lofty ideals but out of your own agenda.

That was definate proof of your general hypocracy.

Using quotation marks as to somehow make it appear there was no rampant sexism on this board and that you were serving lofty goals of truth and honesty instead of being just an appologist for just about every sexist and mysogenist asshat on this board.

You were fully aware of the continuous debates the last weeks about the sexism occuring on this board so do NOT try to paint this by your subtile use of the quotation marks as everything was a-okay.
man you've spent so much time with your nose up people's arses everything you say is starting to sound like shit.

You really do make me laugh, because you're employing your usual tactic to make a discussion about anything else other than what you are clearly wrong about. So if you wanna go there fine. I stuck up for Bailey because his ban did not comply with the forum rules. Since then the rules have changed and people can get banned for anything at any time with one verbal warning or infraction, I don't agree with this policy but I haven't been arguing against it, see Mindbender as an example. Note that I didn't condone anything Bailey or Blackscare said all I did was say that they deserved infractions not bans.

You on the other hand are the cheerleader for banning everyone for everything, what's your motivation? To be honest I can't abide brown noses because they're always the first to crack under pressure, fuck over people for a promotion, or grass on people to save their own arse. Seems like the shoe fits in your case

[PhoenixAsh]

man you've spent so much time with your nose up people's arses everything you say is starting to sound like shit. You really do make me laugh, because you're employing your usual tactic to make a discussion about anything else other than what you are clearly wrong about.

Except for the fact that I already conceded the point...asshat. :rolleyes: YET you keep insisting to continue the debate and, as usual, being without arguments you felt the need to make this personal....which is clearly an indication that you serve a less than lofty agenda contrary to all your whining about truth and honesty.

Because the simple fact in this thread is that the only one being a dishonest asshat is you. Something which you keep illustrating again and again.


So if you wanna go there fine. I stuck up for Bailey because his ban did not comply with the forum rules.No you defended Bailey after you were made aware that he had already received infractions and warnings for sexist video's and porn links he posted....and copious insults with the word "****" in various varieties through the rep system and continued this behaviour even in lieu of admin threads I linked. And your position after these facts was that enforcing clear rules on sexist behaviour was making members feel unwelcome.

So no...you do NOT get to preach the moral highground here. You are a sexist apologist and a dishonest hypocrite.


Since then the rules have changed and people can get banned for anything at any time with one verbal warning or infraction, I don't agree with this policy but I haven't been arguing against it, see Mindbender as an example. Note that I didn't condone anything Bailey or Blackscare said all I did was say that they deserved infractions not bans.Yes I know you were arguing FOR enforcement of the rules. I am happy you are the one bringing this up. I was hoping you would. But I am sure you won't understand that this shows, once again, the level of your hypocracy and dishonesty.

Rather than opposing the rules, which according to your own words make people feel unwelcome, as you previously claimed...you are actually and advocate for them. Yet you have the guts and the audacity to call me a lyer.

:laugh:

But you did a little more than that....as was the case with Black Sheep.


You on the other hand are the cheerleader for banning everyone for everything, what's your motivation?Riiight. :rolleyes: The only people I cheerleaded for banning were the insidious Maoist posers who were advocating or appologizing rape or supporting cops and authorities to crack down and restore cappie order and rule. And yes...I did not shed one single tear over the banning of Black Sheep...a one year user who does NOT understand why the word "*****" is sexist and continues to defend his use by the very reason it is sexist?

And I am sure you do not understand my motivation for that...which is my point exactly about you...


To be honest I can't abide brown noses because they're always the first to crack under pressure, fuck over people for a promotion, or grass on people to save their own arse. Seems like the shoe fits in your case:lol:

[PhoenixAsh]

O fucking hell...yes...now I remember....its all your name changes.

You were the dude restricted because he opposed free movement of labour, argued against immigration and initially opposed women who started working. Untill you had your, I paraphrase, morning Eureka moment...and were unrestricted back in april this year. Which by the way...you were completely ok with and certainly agreed taht you should have been and were justly restricted over.

And then offcourse there were these gems...you know...to illustrate your genuinity in not enforcing the rules...

http://www.revleft.com/vb/telling-members-go-t157462/index.html

Now...who was the OP asking for restriction and enforcement of rules? Not even asking for infraction but outright banning. Hypocracy much??? :laugh: BUt hell...sure...he was, and I qoute: getting on your tits.

Or your admittance to getting infracted over....
http://www.revleft.com/vb/revolution-t157633/index.html?p=2166589#post2166589
:laugh:

Oh and this one is precious...its a while back though, probably before your restriction...
http://www.revleft.com/vb/stricter-moderating-learning-t143140/index.html?t=143140&highlight=manic
Now who was that again asking for stricter enforcement of the rules? Remind me?
:laugh:

http://www.revleft.com/vb/fascist-and-troll-t125300/index9.html?highlight=manic
Rightlly banned? Yup...thats Manic consistency again....
:laugh:


Geez Manic....you crack me up! lmao.